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Haha Liam if there was any decent rugby or premiership match on at the same time, it would be a struggle to watch the game!

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 15/06/2017 08:47:23    1999813

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Clare had Kerry on the ropes and if they had scored a goal in the 2nd half as opposed to hitting the bar there's a very good chance we'd be on the Qualifier scrapheap along with our friends in Mayo.

Cork are going to be an altogether bigger test again, albeit them losing home advantage is a serious blow

When is the last time there has been even the remotest doubt of an upset or even an competitive game in the Leinster Championship and Dublin?????

KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts: 20 - 15/06/2017 12:45:50    1999908

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Replying To KerryAnimal37:  "Clare had Kerry on the ropes and if they had scored a goal in the 2nd half as opposed to hitting the bar there's a very good chance we'd be on the Qualifier scrapheap along with our friends in Mayo.

Cork are going to be an altogether bigger test again, albeit them losing home advantage is a serious blow

When is the last time there has been even the remotest doubt of an upset or even an competitive game in the Leinster Championship and Dublin?????"
What does the lack of competitiveness (to Dublin) in Leinster have to do with the worst Cork team in generations?

Kerry usually beat Cork when Cork are not the current shambles that they are. Why on earth would Kerry not beat an awful Cork team when they usually beat good Cork teams?

Some Kerry posters pretending to think Cork are still a threat is patronising.

Cork are poor, simple as, and have almost no chance of beating Kerry in the Munster Final. There's a lot of people happy that the beating will happen in Killarney rather than the Park on it's opening day.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 15/06/2017 13:33:05    1999929

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Replying To MesAmis:  "What does the lack of competitiveness (to Dublin) in Leinster have to do with the worst Cork team in generations?

Kerry usually beat Cork when Cork are not the current shambles that they are. Why on earth would Kerry not beat an awful Cork team when they usually beat good Cork teams?

Some Kerry posters pretending to think Cork are still a threat is patronising.

Cork are poor, simple as, and have almost no chance of beating Kerry in the Munster Final. There's a lot of people happy that the beating will happen in Killarney rather than the Park on it's opening day."
Because the usual suspects are constantly bashing Kerry and how 'easy' we have it in Munster yet its a paragon of competitiveness compared to Leinster in the last 10-12 years

I find it hilarious people from certain counties taking pot shots at Cork who haven't achieved near what they have or have any where near the potential that Cork have going forward

If Clare could push Kerry for 65 minutes why would any rational thinking person not believe that Cork will do that and much much more?

The last we played Cork there was blue murder on here about ref decisions going against them yet the same people now say Cork are a joke even though the personnel is essentially the same with very talented young players added since?

There is an agenda, me thinks....

KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts: 20 - 15/06/2017 14:59:17    1999970

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Because the usual suspects are constantly bashing Kerry and how 'easy' we have it in Munster yet its a paragon of competitiveness compared to Leinster in the last 10-12 years

I find it hilarious people from certain counties taking pot shots at Cork who haven't achieved near what they have or have any where near the potential that Cork have going forward

If Clare could push Kerry for 65 minutes why would any rational thinking person not believe that Cork will do that and much much more?

The last we played Cork there was blue murder on here about ref decisions going against them yet the same people now say Cork are a joke even though the personnel is essentially the same with very talented young players added since?

There is an agenda, me thinks....
KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts:4 - 15/06/2017 14:59:17

So people talking about how poor this current Cork side is actually people bashing Kerry? I think you're reading far too much into this.

This thread is about Cork bud. Not Kerry. Not the Leinster Championship. About Cork.

I've never seen as bad a Cork side, they look really badly prepared.

The margin of victory for Kerry will depend on just how seriously Kerry take the game. Similar to the Clare match in that regard. That's Cork's main hope going into the game to avoid a hammering.

I've seen much better Cork sides get bad beatings off Kerry when Kerry were in the mood.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 15/06/2017 15:17:52    1999978

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I don't think I ever seen a worse performance from a Cork team than the first half last weekend. However I thought they put in a brilliant second half performance against a good Tipp side. They seemed to just throw off the shackles in the second half and looked a much better team for it. Cork have some terrific players and I have to give a special mention to Paul Kerrigan who tried his heart out. I would regard Colm O'Neill as one of the best forwards in the country but he looks totally out of sorts. If they can play an entire 70 minutes against Kerry like they did in the second half against Tipp then they give Kerry a good game. I still can't see them winning as they seem stuck between gameplans, ultra defensive or all out attack. Surely they need to strike a balance. Cork have some wonderful footballers and I thin this is the reason they are getting s much flak.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 15/06/2017 15:26:47    1999988

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Because the usual suspects are constantly bashing Kerry and how 'easy' we have it in Munster yet its a paragon of competitiveness compared to Leinster in the last 10-12 years

I find it hilarious people from certain counties taking pot shots at Cork who haven't achieved near what they have or have any where near the potential that Cork have going forward

If Clare could push Kerry for 65 minutes why would any rational thinking person not believe that Cork will do that and much much more?

The last we played Cork there was blue murder on here about ref decisions going against them yet the same people now say Cork are a joke even though the personnel is essentially the same with very talented young players added since?

There is an agenda, me thinks....
KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts:4 - 15/06/2017 14:59:17

So people talking about how poor this current Cork side is actually people bashing Kerry? I think you're reading far too much into this.

This thread is about Cork bud. Not Kerry. Not the Leinster Championship. About Cork.

I've never seen as bad a Cork side, they look really badly prepared.

The margin of victory for Kerry will depend on just how seriously Kerry take the game. Similar to the Clare match in that regard. That's Cork's main hope going into the game to avoid a hammering.

I've seen much better Cork sides get bad beatings off Kerry when Kerry were in the mood."
So when all and sundry said Cork were robbed just 2 years ago with basically the same players they have now all of a sudden are a joke.

Or were we just having a laugh then as well as the Clare game????

I think that is nonsense and very disrespectful of the Kerry players and management to do so.

Spend hours and hours for 9/10 months of the year just to deliberately take the Michael on gameday. The sounds ridiculous when you read it aloud

KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts: 20 - 15/06/2017 20:01:50    2000108

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Corks shooting in both the Waterford game and tipp match was unbelievably bad.If they keep that up in Killarney they'll get roasted. Can't see them getting within 7-8 points of kerry.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 15/06/2017 20:23:50    2000111

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So when all and sundry said Cork were robbed just 2 years ago with basically the same players they have now all of a sudden are a joke.

Or were we just having a laugh then as well as the Clare game????

I think that is nonsense and very disrespectful of the Kerry players and management to do so.

Spend hours and hours for 9/10 months of the year just to deliberately take the Michael on gameday. The sounds ridiculous when you read it aloud
KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts:5 - 15/06/2017 20:01:50

2 years ago is irrelevant. We're talking about 2017 here bud.

I really fail to see how it is disrespectful to Kerry to say that Kerry are a much better side than Cork.

Your second last sentence does indeed sound ridiculous when read aloud, or even read silently. I don't know why you typed it as it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 16/06/2017 08:21:58    2000204

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It has

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 16/06/2017 11:24:38    2000267

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Replying To PyatPree:  "It has"
It must have literally taken years to develop debating skills such as yours.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 16/06/2017 12:10:29    2000290

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Replying To MesAmis:  "So when all and sundry said Cork were robbed just 2 years ago with basically the same players they have now all of a sudden are a joke.

Or were we just having a laugh then as well as the Clare game????

I think that is nonsense and very disrespectful of the Kerry players and management to do so.

Spend hours and hours for 9/10 months of the year just to deliberately take the Michael on gameday. The sounds ridiculous when you read it aloud
KerryAnimal37 (Kerry) - Posts:5 - 15/06/2017 20:01:50

2 years ago is irrelevant. We're talking about 2017 here bud.

I really fail to see how it is disrespectful to Kerry to say that Kerry are a much better side than Cork.

Your second last sentence does indeed sound ridiculous when read aloud, or even read silently. I don't know why you typed it as it has nothing to do with the topic at hand."
Dead right.

2 years ago was completely different. In the spring of 2015,we topped division 1 of the national league. We reached the final (got hammered). The performance against Kerry didn't come out of no where. 2017 is different. We have played in Division 2 where we struggled massively against very average teams. We have had no good performances this year. Not a single one. We don't have our best 15 out because guys like Paddy Kelly just won't commit to this shambles.

Kerry will win this by as much as they want to win by.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 17/06/2017 13:57:28    2000601

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Cork GAA would be crazy in my opinion to play Final down in Killarney. Are they mad? Play match in Thurles. There is no way Kerry will lose in Killarney.
That said the future is bright for Cork football.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 17/06/2017 21:42:46    2000759

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Cork are not a bad team, but their county board needs to play the final in a neutral ground. Not in Killarney. It hands too big an advantage to Kerry.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 17/06/2017 21:44:28    2000760

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