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I don't think Connolly will get a 12 week suspension. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 13:58:46 1995012 Link 1 |
Comerford was sent off?
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2017 14:15:36 1995024 Link 0 |
Apparently Dermo has a right to ask why the referee didn't adjudicate on the decision at the time and use this in mitigation to any sanction by the CCC. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 14:18:21 1995026 Link 1 |
Yeah sent off so it was reported by the referee in his report leading to the ccc having a disciplinary case. the ccc by my understanding don't review incidents unless the referee reports it or the incident wasn't spotted at the time it took place. In Connolly case both officials the ref and linesman clearly seen it and deemed it not worthy of anything. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 14:51:26 1995043 Link 1 |
If a sweet heart deal is worked out, what will the GAA say to the Tipp and Armagh county boards when they come asking why their men were treated differently? The minimum sanction for this type of incident is 12 weeks so going with a suspension of less than that doesn't appear to be in the authorities gift. It's going to be an interesting few days. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 05/06/2017 14:58:42 1995052 Link 0 |
watch the incident as a neutral not a blinded by blue goggle Dublin supporter and you will see cooper turning his head as he's running up the pitch to see where murphy is, no ball in sight and then when he is close to the officials comes across murphy to block his run knowing full well what is liable to happen and of course murphy stupidly reacts with the inevitable outcome. Now is that a smart play or cynical tactic. take your pick depending on who you support.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:00:57 1995055 Link 1 |
couldn't remember his name, too much Ribena in the carrickdale after being took to be tortured in newry by my Armagh brother in law only good thing was 50 squids from him and a few from the bookie to pay for it.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:05:11 1995056 Link 0 |
And so reading from that Cooper is responsible for Murphy acting the eejit! Terrible stuff really
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 05/06/2017 15:10:05 1995057 Link 3 |
This is true about the ref acting on it during the game. An article in the indo suggests Dublin have a good argument if Connolly gets a lengthy ban.
KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 05/06/2017 15:10:41 1995058 Link 2 |
It is a nothing incident it wasn't aggressive in my opinion Ive seen him do much worse and carlow players got plenty of digs in but it's a match official and not a player so rules are and should be harsher.the rules are clear he touched a match official it's 12 weeks. galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 05/06/2017 15:17:30 1995060 Link 0 |
Armagh and tipp cases as you call them were different. the match official reported both them incidents when they took place by way of punishing them and had it in their match reports. The officials here deemed no action neccessary when the incident took place involving Connolly so unless the match report contradicts there own decisions during the game the matter would be classed as dealt with during the game. Where as in both mcgeeney and comerford cases the ccc were given disciplinary issues. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 15:19:27 1995061 Link 2 |
what has amazed me for years is the way some supporters are so paroachial in their support of their own county and any indiscretions however serious by players and the condemn other players for the same type of behaviour. If we are honest with ourselves we know the player has done wrong but revel in the controversies and responses which will inevitably appear here. It shouldn't matter what county or how high or low a profile or his advertising or whatever worth to counties and gaa if he does wrong then everybody should be condemning it and shouting from the rafters. Maybe if the supporters, county boards, team mates and management started saying ok enough is enough then we may see changes in players behaviour and then spectators behaviour. But I suppose that's living in dream land
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:22:16 1995062 Link 1 |
The rule is very clear. In fact in many ways to clear. The nuance is the action taken by the ref and other officials at the time who saw the incident and the match report. If it is cited in the match report, then their is a broad space for the legal team to challenge why it wasnt deemed an infraction at the time by the officiating team. Thus also validity of the referee to act without prejudice in the intervening period and exposure to public opinion, media etc given the profile of the the player can be questioned. If its not in the match the match report, then the same argument can be made in the deviation of referrers interpretation of the rule in the match report and that of the CCC. they may not align and if not the undermining of the CCC of the authority of match day officials. Im not saying he wont or shouldn't get the a 12 week suspension all im saying is will be interesting to see the players, county board and the GAA's response to this and the process's. The line of least resistances is a watered down ban so every one saves face. This one is going to be fascinating. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 15:22:32 1995064 Link 1 |
again, a player should not be aggressively confronting an official, or lay a hand on one either no matter how it is whether just touch, poking or shoving or worse, they know full well the consequences especially for some counties who will be scrutinised to death but some don't give a hoot as they seem to think sure our legal team will keep me ok. Just condemn it for what it is regardless of the team or player, bringing up last year or last week has nowt to do with it. It is the incident now that's relevant. Also do not see the enjoyment some people seem to revel in when another county loses big players.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:32:01 1995069 Link 1 |
D-day tomorrow: TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 15:36:42 1995072 Link 0 |
Thanks for getting back to me. I thought that is what you meant. Then the way the GAA has their disciplinary structure set up is not fit for purpose. He'll probably be ok so. I'm just frustrated at the inconsistency and overall poor quality of refereeing. Comerford is pretty much gone for the inter county season for something he did during a club game, which was rightfully noted in the referees report. I think it's extremely harsh that the ban carries over to inter county too as it's with another team he plays for. I'm sure the wise men at HQ have a logical reason for it. The linesman has failed in his job if he didn't report the incident to the referee cos the referee might have genuinely missed Connolly's push. The GAA are so obsessed with tinkering with championship structures that they can't seem to sort out the basic administration of the game. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2017 15:40:09 1995073 Link 0 |
No chance it's a nothing incident, he barely touches him. Dublin legal team will destroy any case the Ccccccccccccc bring against Connolly.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 05/06/2017 15:40:50 1995074 Link 1 |
Do you know what comerford actually did? as i haven't seen a single report state what actually happened. Annoying thing about pundits like spillane and o Rourke and other journalists is they constantly suggest comerford got suspended so Connolly has to aswell without knowing what the player actually did or bothering to analyse the ins and outs of each case it's very poor for guys getting paid to give opinions and misleading for the public. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 16:35:58 1995093 Link 1 |
So did Murphy deserve to get sent off or not...???? Of course he did - a 2nd yellow was the least he deserved for grabbing a player by the mouth and also around the neck and throwing him to the ground... Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 05/06/2017 16:42:29 1995098 Link 1 |
Yes he should be suspended, any hands on the officials should not be tolerated & it's there in the rules. What a stupid action over a line ball & them winning, I think Dublin would be better without him as he is a liability at present with his indiscipline & it detracts from their game. Lots of talent there, bring them in & let Connolly reflect on his constant disciplinary problems while banned to the sideline. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/06/2017 16:51:24 1995105 Link 1 |