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Looking at the crowd at the match I've always wondered if it would be better playing limerick clare championship games at the gaelic grounds. Firstly if clare objected with it been at limericks home ground fair enough but where the pitch is located just north of the Shannon it's almost the the ideal venue geographically. Places like Cratloe,Shannon,sixmilebridge and cloonlara are all only 20 mins from the stadium

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/06/2017 01:27:26    1995349

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Sean Finn did appear to be on the ball a lot but did he really play well? The performance of a corner back is defined by what his man scored and McGrath took him for 1-3. Strange that people think he played well given this.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 06/06/2017 03:00:03    1995351

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Replying To perfect10:  "turgid.bar some excitement towards the end of the first half,it as awful.
how did limerick leave conor mc grath on the edge of the square 3 on 2?richie mccarthy is a man who loves the big roar but who i thought was cleaned out today.
i thought finn i think his name is in the corner was by a mile limericks best player.
only 19k at this today?is this really the best the munster championship has to offer?"
In fairness to McCarthy he kept Shanager scoreless. He is an accident waiting to happen and sees his name in lights too often. David McInerney gave an exhibition in full back play I thought.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 06/06/2017 03:01:53    1995352

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well as regards Tony Kelly's quiet day yesterday your manager, Mr O'Connor, said very generously, but I think factually, that this was due to the fact that Seamus Hickey was simply very good on the day. I found this comment ironic as your fellow county man LRH said recently on this forum that Hickey was past it and should be dropped"
I thought Seamus Hickey had a good game yesterday and is in general having a good season. I didnt think he would live with Kelly but Kelly looks devoid of confidence and stuck to the ground in many respects. The club championship has taken the life out of him it would seem. I would give him a two week break from training now and get him back into the panel for the 3 weeks to the final. He is a big game player and will have a point to prove for the Munster final.

I was wrong about Hickey and he played well.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 06/06/2017 03:07:32    1995353

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Replying To ZUL10:  "From what I remember the 93 game in Ennis was a game of 2 halves with one team dominating each half..but was a decent contest. I had to google the score. Clare won by 4 points. The attendance was 12800. Back then the capacity of Cusack Park was 22k. So the selective memories of packed stadiums for knockout championship games in the past is just that. Selective."
the 1993 game had around 12ish - 96 games had around 40k - played clare in gaelic ground in league in 1998 in front of 18000 - staggering when you think of it

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/06/2017 11:01:27    1995447

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Replying To wexico15:  "Looking at the crowd at the match I've always wondered if it would be better playing limerick clare championship games at the gaelic grounds. Firstly if clare objected with it been at limericks home ground fair enough but where the pitch is located just north of the Shannon it's almost the the ideal venue geographically. Places like Cratloe,Shannon,sixmilebridge and cloonlara are all only 20 mins from the stadium"
I think Cratloe once gave up home advantage in Ennis for a club Munster Final given their a stones throw from Caherdavin.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 06/06/2017 11:20:17    1995459

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Just on Sunday's game it was no wonder that the crowd was small €30.00 a ticket €5.00 for a programme and then to be served a poor game.
Clare breaking their run of Munster Championship runs was welcome but we will be ate alive if we go out like that again.

Fahy's puckouts in first half were awful where is Donal og's influence but really you cant deny what Ger Loughnane said about us not being ball winners only option Conlon {again} Tony Kelly simply wont contest in the air and again i agree with Loughnane he should be midfield with Galvin .
I only hope Niall Deasy is ready soon as he is a ball winner & a freetaker, Reidy missed terrible frees that he should have nailed not good enough at this level.

All the pundits Brendan Cummins/Henry/Ger Loughnane/Babs mentioned Ball winners in the half forward line so i was amazed not to see Peter Or Bobby Duggan at least in the 26.

Cathal Malone is big but he dosent do it either no matter how the selectors look at it they will have to revisit this if Waterford beat Cork and play 5 across half back line we will have no chance.

Our Full forward line is lethal though Shanagher poor on Sunday but will come good McGrath/O Donnell very good but need to stay near the goal

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 891 - 06/06/2017 11:41:17    1995481

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "In fairness to McCarthy he kept Shanager scoreless. He is an accident waiting to happen and sees his name in lights too often. David McInerney gave an exhibition in full back play I thought."
David McCarthy had a great game but our boys did help by sending every ball in high. Fatal against the best full back in the country, especially with small corner forwards on either side.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 06/06/2017 11:54:15    1995489

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Replying To ZUL10:  "TBH I cant recall one really good game between Clare and Limerick. They have always failed to deliver. Even the 96 game which was a classic in many respects could not be remembered for quality hurling. It was tough and tense with a fantastic finish. Its possibly to do with the similarity in styles or heightened expectations but more often than not one team fails to turn up."
Zulu
Were you there that day? I was and I have never experienced heat like it. Joe Quaid was interviewed recently and he said he got sunstroke after the game and that the heat was awful and he was playing in goal. It was the only time I ever saw a mirage rising off a pitch at the end of a game. Whatever about skill I was directly in line with the LK half back line in the second half and to say that on several occasions all the Lk backs appeared to be about to be overrun is to put it mildly. I thought every man jack of them stood to the plate and Mark Foley from start to finish was awesome. The Clare forwards of the day were brilliant and always seemed to have a yard of pace on them on several occasions but our boys contrived to hassle hook block or judiciously foul all day. As a Cork Examiner of the day Billy George said 'it was remorseless' The greatest I have seen in well over years. Well i sure think so.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 06/06/2017 12:06:38    1995499

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What's happened to Pa Kelly? Is he still on the panel?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 06/06/2017 13:47:17    1995587

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Oldtourman, I think even neutrals look back on that epic as one of the great games. "It was remorseless" was how hurling was back then. Is it better served in the modern day of 2nd chances, etc? I'm not sure.
One thing is for sure, if Wexford beat Kilkenny on Saturday if we meet them again they will probably beat us. The great thing about 1996 was that Limerick beat Clare and they were out, Wexford beat Kilkenny and they were out.
Great days, great atmospheres, great times.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/06/2017 14:08:41    1995607

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "David McCarthy had a great game but our boys did help by sending every ball in high. Fatal against the best full back in the country, especially with small corner forwards on either side."
Sorry- senior moment. I meant David McInerny of course- and not McCarthy.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 06/06/2017 15:51:40    1995703

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Sorry- senior moment. I meant David McInerny of course- and not McCarthy."
Who are you considering the best full back in the country ?

Dan Breen (Tipperary) - Posts: 165 - 06/06/2017 16:39:57    1995753

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Replying To Bon:  "What's happened to Pa Kelly? Is he still on the panel?"
He is from what I know of the latest panel release by Clare GAA. Any of the Clare lads on ere know why Donal Tuohy still being over looked?

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 06/06/2017 16:58:46    1995779

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Replying To Dan Breen:  "Who are you considering the best full back in the country ?"
If he can repeat his 13 form and carry on from last Sunday McInerney could be a serious contender, who do you consider the best full back? Quite frankly after seeing last years Munster and All Ireland finals and Cork v Tipp and the League final and semi finals I do not think there are many stand out full backs around.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 06/06/2017 20:46:55    1995995

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Zulu
Were you there that day? I was and I have never experienced heat like it. Joe Quaid was interviewed recently and he said he got sunstroke after the game and that the heat was awful and he was playing in goal. It was the only time I ever saw a mirage rising off a pitch at the end of a game. Whatever about skill I was directly in line with the LK half back line in the second half and to say that on several occasions all the Lk backs appeared to be about to be overrun is to put it mildly. I thought every man jack of them stood to the plate and Mark Foley from start to finish was awesome. The Clare forwards of the day were brilliant and always seemed to have a yard of pace on them on several occasions but our boys contrived to hassle hook block or judiciously foul all day. As a Cork Examiner of the day Billy George said 'it was remorseless' The greatest I have seen in well over years. Well i sure think so."
Point taken Oldtour. Yes I was at it and never forget the game, the heat and the finish. It was undeniably the best Clare Limerick game Ive seen.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 06/06/2017 21:23:29    1996040

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Replying To WildPundit:  "He is from what I know of the latest panel release by Clare GAA. Any of the Clare lads on ere know why Donal Tuohy still being over looked?"
Donal touhy has had ample chances and has not taken them. I am surprised Kelly is not the sub goaly to be honest. Give fahy another chance

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 07/06/2017 00:18:09    1996142

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "If he can repeat his 13 form and carry on from last Sunday McInerney could be a serious contender, who do you consider the best full back? Quite frankly after seeing last years Munster and All Ireland finals and Cork v Tipp and the League final and semi finals I do not think there are many stand out full backs around."
2015 and 16 ide just about give it to James Barry over Daithí Burke this year so far it defiantly Daithí Burke. I think most here would agree

Dan Breen (Tipperary) - Posts: 165 - 08/06/2017 09:19:41    1996779

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Replying To ZUL10:  "Point taken Oldtour. Yes I was at it and never forget the game, the heat and the finish. It was undeniably the best Clare Limerick game Ive seen."
didnt jamsie oconnor finish the game without his boots?

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/06/2017 09:41:27    1996784

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while we are dissappointed to lose, its not a tragedy its a game of hurling, clares mcgrath, odonnell conlon and galvin played well, for limerick i feel there are more positives to be taken from this than any of our defeats in 2015 and 2016, also bear in mind its a young inexperienced team,

thought sean finn played well, as did half back line - dempsey and kyle hayes did well after the switch and peter casey got a super point, all young talented lads -with byrnes and hegarty (both ony 2nd season) i think we will be competitive in the qualifiers

Both side support was incredible really - to be bringing around 10k each -was probably a bit more limerick - to get such a big limerick crowd with no expectation was excellent , and i hope we can get more of this for qualifiers.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/06/2017 09:47:01    1996786

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