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A plea to Parnell Park

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No leave it with him, I tried to give him a out a couple of days ago, he didn't take it. Also he just refers time and again to the water and clubhouse situation, and has never said that to allow crushing where children and elderly people were. He hasn't once said that was wrong. Watch he still wont."
What are you talking about
Where have I ever said crushing is right?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/05/2017 22:12:31    1992428

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Replying To royaldunne:  "He wont though. Its like watching a train wreck in slow motion,
Hill be the bigger person here, just say you misunderstood my original post, no one wants to see patrons put in danger of been crushed. Say i hope it doesn't happen again, And move on"
Hahahahaha
your like a bold child
please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly.
anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day.
the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic.
of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/05/2017 22:21:59    1992432

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Hahahahaha
your like a bold child
please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly.
anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day.
the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic.
of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt"
My point was is and always will be about nit opening the gates, the others were secondary. Were Parnell park incorrect in not having gates open?? Yes or no?
Did they add to dangerous situation by not been properly prepared?? Yes or no??
Answer both questions.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/05/2017 22:39:59    1992441

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reading this thread makes me realise lucky to have most of our games in thurles - great venue , good facilities handy parking , although id be in the bring your own water for the smallies brigade, saves queueing

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 01/06/2017 11:16:10    1992963

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RD

you bringin the kids on sunday ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 01/06/2017 11:21:48    1992966

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Hahahahaha
your like a bold child
please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly.
anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day.
the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic.
of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt"
It was chaos last year simple as that, no championship game should be awarded to this venue till they clean up there act, the game should be in Navan anyway is it not Meaths turn for home advantage,

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 01/06/2017 11:37:51    1992973

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Hahahahaha
your like a bold child
please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly.
anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day.
the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic.
of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt"
It was chaos last year simple as that, no championship game should be awarded to this venue till they clean up there act, the game should be in Navan anyway is it not Meaths turn for home advantage,

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 01/06/2017 11:44:43    1992981

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Hahahahaha your like a bold child please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly. anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day. the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic. of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12062 - 30/05/2017 22:21:59
hill you are very naive if you think anyone who brings kids to a game brings food and drink with them. Some do but many/most do not. And the op wasnt at all making a meal of things by saying it was poor management/form/organisation by the shop running out of stock. And a club should be clever not to run a function on same day as match if it effects sales as in not a function directly related to the game.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/06/2017 13:09:47    1993032

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Replying To waynoI:  "RD

you bringin the kids on sunday ?"
The older two are going , they don't care , and can mind themselves, only one of the younger ones, as the other is nervous,
Btw I have one juvenile ticket available if anyone wants it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/06/2017 13:50:37    1993068

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Hahahahaha your like a bold child please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly. anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day. the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic. of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12062 - 30/05/2017 22:21:59
hill you are very naive if you think anyone who brings kids to a game brings food and drink with them. Some do but many/most do not. And the op wasnt at all making a meal of things by saying it was poor management/form/organisation by the shop running out of stock. And a club should be clever not to run a function on same day as match if it effects sales as in not a function directly related to the game."
100% agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/06/2017 13:51:48    1993070

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "That's it in not choosing a battle or making an argument.
just responding to Watergate and clubhousegate"
Watergate took place in the early 1970s ;)

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 01/06/2017 16:02:17    1993120

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Replying To royaldunne:  "The older two are going , they don't care , and can mind themselves, only one of the younger ones, as the other is nervous,
Btw I have one juvenile ticket available if anyone wants it."
I just wonder why you would bring your kids back to a venue that you have described as dangerous and over crowded in your original point.

I understand that your two eldest want to make their own decision but then if they experienced the same dangerous over crowded experience last year why would they or you risk their safety in going back??

I think you are making a meal of the over crowdedness. Not saying it wasn't packed but dangerous ?? Over crowded ?? Not sure I'd agree. There where young kids in the terraces behind the goals in thurles for Dublin v Kerry in 01 I remember being one of them, literally felt like I couldn't breath it was so compact, I can tell ya now that last years Meath and Louth game in the Neller wasn't a patch on those days not so long ago.

Not having a go by the way, I'm genuinely curious

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 01/06/2017 17:40:13    1993177

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Are Louth playing here as well on sunday??

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 01/06/2017 17:58:24    1993187

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Are Louth playing here as well on sunday??"
Wee might as well turn up and gatecrash this Royal party.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 01/06/2017 18:44:48    1993207

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Replying To royaldunne:  "My point was is and always will be about nit opening the gates, the others were secondary. Were Parnell park incorrect in not having gates open?? Yes or no?
Did they add to dangerous situation by not been properly prepared?? Yes or no??
Answer both questions."
Haha if your point was is and always will be about not opening a gate then why on earth make all the other nonsense, don't that prove you made a meal of it hmmm.
I never argued with you about opening gates I don't get where you think I did, all I said on the gates was what did Parnell say was the reason as in all the years going there it's never happened before to me.
So there had to be a reason for it which would more than likely have involved a ticketing reason possibly around scanners or something.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/06/2017 19:00:23    1993213

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Hahahahaha your like a bold child please acknowledge me
I never said one thing originally about pushing or crushing or suggested it was right or wrong.
I simply pointed out you were making a four course dinner of a day out by whinging about having to wait in a clubhouse that isn't belonging to Parnell park for twenty minutes and that the shop ran out of water and the fact you had a list of points you were demanding they have in place like not allowing a function take place while your there haha like come on man who are you to demand a club run their affairs as you demand it's so silly. anybody bringing kids to a match brings water and food with them it's basic common sense to be prepared and not put youself in a situation for the day. the very fact you responded to my suggestion of going to Tesco with a blunt no I will rely on Parnell park for the water is childish and pedantic. of course nobody wants to see anybody getting hurt
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12062 - 30/05/2017 22:21:59
hill you are very naive if you think anyone who brings kids to a game brings food and drink with them. Some do but many/most do not. And the op wasnt at all making a meal of things by saying it was poor management/form/organisation by the shop running out of stock. And a club should be clever not to run a function on same day as match if it effects sales as in not a function directly related to the game."
I think it's more naieve of a person bringing kids to a match to not go prepared, you must not have much dealings with kids if you feel the need to argue with me on that one.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/06/2017 19:02:33    1993215

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Replying To Laois76:  "Watergate took place in the early 1970s ;)"
Haha yeah maybe someone in green Jersey will have Parnell offices bugged on Sunday

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/06/2017 19:05:35    1993217

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "
Replying To ormondbannerman:  "You wrote a journal of things you want done and had problems with in your opening post though so you can't pull the you didn't read it right.
ok you wrote to Parnell office and what was their answer to the gates not being opened? It's not usual for Parnell park all the times I have played or gone as supporter have never witnesed that so would have to have been a reason.
Of course nobody wants crushes at games so cannot understand why that would be.but you seem to be making a meal of it literally with a litany of things from upset at craobh chirann clubhouse having a function on to the shop running out of water to the stand seats been filled without seat numbers.
I was at a league final when we beat Derry in 2014 and they only had the middle of the hill open and it was well overfull with the steps filled with people the whole way down,people were squashed heard people next to me pleading with gardai to get them to open another section as section a and the nally were empty but they just said its not up to us
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12030 - 27/05/2017 19:14:09
But hill how is the OP making a meal of things? If anyone's making a meal of it its you. If what OP said is true then stadium management need to completely change their policies and improve their services within the ground for supporters."
oh it is true,anyone who went to the game would know it was true. they didn't care about supporters at all,and as i said before,i wouldn't bring kids to any of the terraces there. dangerous isn't the word."
I disagree Ziggy. I had both my 9 & 10 year old son and Daughter with me last year and there was plenty of room in the Terrace

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 02/06/2017 08:49:37    1993368

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I think it's more naieve of a person bringing kids to a match to not go prepared, you must not have much dealings with kids if you feel the need to argue with me on that one.
hill16no1man (Dublin)

ah no if you bringing kids you gotta be prepared food drink raingear and even on occasion some suncream (:coz limerick/thurles is closer to the equator than dublin/lougth/meath!!!) and most important of all the hurlies and sliotars for post game puck around and the perma marker for some autographs!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 02/06/2017 09:36:49    1993386

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Replying To chriscart580:  "
Replying To ziggy32001:  "[quote=ormondbannerman:  "You wrote a journal of things you want done and had problems with in your opening post though so you can't pull the you didn't read it right.
ok you wrote to Parnell office and what was their answer to the gates not being opened? It's not usual for Parnell park all the times I have played or gone as supporter have never witnesed that so would have to have been a reason.
Of course nobody wants crushes at games so cannot understand why that would be.but you seem to be making a meal of it literally with a litany of things from upset at craobh chirann clubhouse having a function on to the shop running out of water to the stand seats been filled without seat numbers.
I was at a league final when we beat Derry in 2014 and they only had the middle of the hill open and it was well overfull with the steps filled with people the whole way down,people were squashed heard people next to me pleading with gardai to get them to open another section as section a and the nally were empty but they just said its not up to us
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12030 - 27/05/2017 19:14:09
But hill how is the OP making a meal of things? If anyone's making a meal of it its you. If what OP said is true then stadium management need to completely change their policies and improve their services within the ground for supporters."
oh it is true,anyone who went to the game would know it was true. they didn't care about supporters at all,and as i said before,i wouldn't bring kids to any of the terraces there. dangerous isn't the word."
I disagree Ziggy. I had both my 9 & 10 year old son and Daughter with me last year and there was plenty of room in the Terrace"]Exactly.

Royaldunne and Ziggy are completely milking the over-crowding/dangerous issue.

If it was as over crowded as they say, they ...

A) Woudnt go back and risk their safety again this year
B) Royaldunne wouldn't be bringing one of his younger kids back presuming he;s a good father who puts his kids before anything including Meath (which ive absolutely no doubt he does) and
C) RD's two eldest sons who where there last year among he dangerous over-crowdedness, are making their own minds up to go back to the same venue again.

Its not a Hillsborough situation here. At worst it was probably a bit compact but I'm not buying it was uncomfortable and if you think that was bad, then I cant imagine you ever going to a game on the hill/canal end when it was terraced at any point before the canal end became seated and hill done up pre 2005, because that was chaotic but also bloody enjoyable as a youngfella going to croker in those days.

Weve probably been in bars around croke park that where more crowded than Parnell park last year, And I was there at the game last year, There was oceans of room behind the golf course end goal, And for people saying their tickets had church end terrace or whatever, means nothing in parnell park, that only judges where you get in turnstile wise but you can walk around the 3 terraces at Parnell park freely, there are no walls/barriers stopping you and certainly no stewards.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/06/2017 10:13:20    1993404

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