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If all those GPO's aren't as great as they are on the tin we will gladly take some of them in Kerry and I'm sure other counties would feel the same

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts:217 - 09/05/2017

Who said they weren't great? All that was said is that they don't work exclusively with clubs or with kids who already play GAA which appeared to be the belief people had when arguing over them.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/05/2017 14:26:58    1985477

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clubs would hugely benefit from having that full time link between schools and the club

and the GPOs in Dublin are occasionally used by adult and underage teams in clubs

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts:1258 - 09/05/2017

Of course they're a benefit, the GAA wouldn't be putting funding towards them in any county if they weren't a benefit. The FAI and IRFU also have numerous coaches who go into schools and work with youth sections in clubs but I doubt it had much impact on Cork Con winning the UBL at the weekend.

Clubs are putting money towards the GDO's, it's only fair then that they get to work with the clubs and the coaches as a result no?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/05/2017 14:31:37    1985480

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "If all those GPO's aren't as great as they are on the tin we will gladly take some of them in Kerry and I'm sure other counties would feel the same

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts:217 - 09/05/2017

Who said they weren't great? All that was said is that they don't work exclusively with clubs or with kids who already play GAA which appeared to be the belief people had when arguing over them."
Again

So much misinformation being spouted as fact by people that have a very limited knowledge about how it all works.

But you see.. it suits a certain narrative and as such they'll ignorantly run with it to suit their own purposes.

At the end of the day, empty vessels make the most noise.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 09/05/2017 14:37:18    1985481

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "clubs would hugely benefit from having that full time link between schools and the club

and the GPOs in Dublin are occasionally used by adult and underage teams in clubs

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts:1258 - 09/05/2017

Of course they're a benefit, the GAA wouldn't be putting funding towards them in any county if they weren't a benefit. The FAI and IRFU also have numerous coaches who go into schools and work with youth sections in clubs but I doubt it had much impact on Cork Con winning the UBL at the weekend.

Clubs are putting money towards the GDO's, it's only fair then that they get to work with the clubs and the coaches as a result no?"
Absolutely there is a benefit and it would be foolish to state otherwise , IF and I mean IF they are good at their job they can have a massive impact in numbers at juvenile level. most coaches at that level will have major back ground in strength and conditioning also , Speaking of my own club Ive seen programmes come in that are a massive help in injury prevention , that said some buy into it and some don't ,
This year our under 15 team folded through lack of numbers , its a constant battle , getting them in the schools is crucial and no team in Dublin has done it better than Castleknock they have used GPO very successfully in creating a YOU MUST PLAY culture in the area , its cool type thinking

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/05/2017 14:41:34    1985482

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Replying To Damothedub:  "There is a massive difference between a game promotional officer and a coach , a GPO is forbidden to train adult teams , they are in club / area to promote the sport , we have a GPO a 26 year old female who is fantastic with kids , not one of our adult players would have a clue who she is , when it's put out that Dublin have Full time coaches it's bizarre the ideas people get , my son is on this years minor squad for hurling , 4 full time school teachers unpaid run the gig , but that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to believe"
Its a pain in the neck reading this rehashed thread again (!), but you sum it up perfectly - but as you say it doesn't fit the narrative. Now what you describe is no different than my own club. Ditto at county level across the board in Dublin. The reality is most of what the county board spends its money on is the development of the game, yeah our game as in not Dublins game but our game.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 09/05/2017 14:42:20    1985483

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Absolutely there is a benefit and it would be foolish to state otherwise , IF and I mean IF they are good at their job they can have a massive impact in numbers at juvenile level. most coaches at that level will have major back ground in strength and conditioning also , Speaking of my own club Ive seen programmes come in that are a massive help in injury prevention , that said some buy into it and some don't ,
This year our under 15 team folded through lack of numbers , its a constant battle , getting them in the schools is crucial and no team in Dublin has done it better than Castleknock they have used GPO very successfully in creating a YOU MUST PLAY culture in the area , its cool type thinking

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:4082 - 09/05/2017

I think one of the unseen benefits is having a link between clubs and local schools who knows when and where games are scheduled and has an understanding of how much training outside of the club kids are doing.

Amazing the amount of times I've seen clubs cancel training last minute because a school team had a match on the same day. At least if somebody is working with kids in both environments, or talking to the adults / coaches in charge it helps flag things like that in advance.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/05/2017 16:28:54    1985512

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Think it might be a fair trek every day from Dublin to Kerry for the coaches , but then again aren't you guys born brilliant sure what could a Dublin coach teach a Kerryman eh ?"
I never said it would be those exact coaches from Dublin, I said was if they aren't so amazing then I'm sure the rest of the country would like extra full time coaches supplied by the GAA

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 09/05/2017 18:09:38    1985515

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I never said it would be those exact coaches from Dublin, I said was if they aren't so amazing then I'm sure the rest of the country would like extra full time coaches supplied by the GAA
KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts:218

You seem to be confusing coaches with promotions officers, if people think these roles just involve coaching players all week then they're completely wide of the mark.

I'm sure Dublin would like extra full time coaches too, but unless their clubs start paying even more for them than they already are then they won't be getting them any time soon.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/05/2017 19:51:57    1985529

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https://www.google.ie/amp/www.rte.ie/amp/784105/

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 11/08/2017 13:26:56    2032348

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