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Ger Loughnane says ''Tipp are no good''.

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=269389


Thoughts?"
Thoughts? Sure, I think Ger Loughnane knows a lot more about hurling than yourself.

Tipperary beat the second best team in Ireland with only 6 starters from last years final they also hammered Dublin who hammered Cork who hammered Clare who hammered Kilkenny , folks wether we like to admit it or not but the 2017 championship is already won no one will come close to this Tipperary team this year.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8490 - 20/02/2017 11:11:54 1958579

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 24/04/2017 19:18:26    1982327

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Another great example of RTE pundits offering opinion and not analysis. And in this case, it's as daft an opinion as any I've ever heard; "those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad" and all that.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 24/04/2017 20:01:22    1982342

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I've had another think about this. I think Loughnane is trying to heap pressure on Tipp because they are the defending champions. This time last year he called Kilkenny a 'functional' team. I think Loughnane likes to wind up Tipp and Kilkenny to show his own county and other hurling counties that they should fear either team. Whoever wins the All-Ireland this year will feel the wrath of Ger in 12 months when they have an off day too.

So instead of getting annoyed by Davy's antics last week and Loughnane's comments today, I'll take both as compliments towards our team. The challenge now for our lads is to learn how to manage the expectation that comes with being champions and the mind games that they will be subjected to as a consequence.

Somebody on here said that Kerry and Kilkenny are kings at blocking out outside noise from the likes of Loughnane or Brolly. That's a fair call in my eye and that's what champions do. Dublin don't seem to get ruffled by much at the moment too.

Tipp need to do what they did last year and that's to knuckle down to the task at hand and keep out of the media spotlight as best they can.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 24/04/2017 20:05:34    1982343

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Tipp are all ireland champions!!!! Do we need to say any more...
Allso champions in 2010 so please dont compare with limerick!!!"
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Did you notice I said Limerick were just an average team. And one did suggest only Galway and KK beat them in the past number of years. And remember by LK beating Tipperary and Dublin beating KKin 13 they both effectively handed Tipp/KK the poisioned chalice of playing each other in a qualifier. Would that other average teams did that more often.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 24/04/2017 20:08:45    1982344

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Headlines don't do what he says justice. He makes a good point. Tipp have 1 All Ireland in a row and got hammered in the subsequent League final. That says it all. They played some wonderful hurling, have some super players, annihilated some teams on the way to the final but over the last 5 years they have 1 All Ireland and 0 league titles. How are they a great team? Disagree with the 'not a good team' bit, but results -wise they're closer to mediocrity than they are to greatness. If they win AI this year then they can start to move along that scale towards 'great' but until then, there can't be any issues with articles like this. In the last 10 years, it's 2 All Irelands and 1 league title. At present, they are nowhere near a 'great' team and I'm happy enough that's what Loughnane is more going for than slagging them off

wicklu (Wicklow) - Posts: 331 - 24/04/2017 20:10:46    1982345

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Ger is striving to remain relevant it seems to me.Tipp are obviously a very good team, any team that beats KK in an All Ireland Final are.
Galway have been capable of 'one off' performances like they turned in yesterday since I was knee high to a jack Russell.
A freak result thats all.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 24/04/2017 21:40:55    1982370

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Replying To Condorman:  "Ger is striving to remain relevant it seems to me.Tipp are obviously a very good team, any team that beats KK in an All Ireland Final are.
Galway have been capable of 'one off' performances like they turned in yesterday since I was knee high to a jack Russell.
A freak result thats all."
It was no freak result we horsed them out off it all over the field.You can say tipp were bad but Galway made them look bad.Do you mean to tell me tipp went out to loose that game it's a national title.

bud14 (Galway) - Posts: 296 - 24/04/2017 22:02:51    1982373

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Replying To Condorman:  "Ger is striving to remain relevant it seems to me.Tipp are obviously a very good team, any team that beats KK in an All Ireland Final are.
Galway have been capable of 'one off' performances like they turned in yesterday since I was knee high to a jack Russell.
A freak result thats all."
Bit of an inherent contradiction in your post there Condorman: if Galway are always capable of "one off performances like the one yesterday" then it was hardly a freak result, was it?

That said I get your point. Lets see if Galway can maintain this standard throughout the summer, and similarly, it's hard to see Tipp ever again being so utterly devoid of spirit.

Either way, Loughnane is spouting attention-seeking nonsense.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 24/04/2017 22:11:51    1982374

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Replying To bud14:  "It was no freak result we horsed them out off it all over the field.You can say tipp were bad but Galway made them look bad.Do you mean to tell me tipp went out to loose that game it's a national title."
Yeah, we were resoundingly beaten, no excuses except we were sh*t. Fair play to Galway they played really well.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 24/04/2017 22:47:11    1982382

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Replying To Condorman:  "Ger is striving to remain relevant it seems to me.Tipp are obviously a very good team, any team that beats KK in an All Ireland Final are.
Galway have been capable of 'one off' performances like they turned in yesterday since I was knee high to a jack Russell.
A freak result thats all."
As pointed out Galway are capable of this so you can't call it a freak result.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 25/04/2017 08:32:38    1982410

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Replying To bud14:  "It was no freak result we horsed them out off it all over the field.You can say tipp were bad but Galway made them look bad.Do you mean to tell me tipp went out to loose that game it's a national title."
You did, but would you be confident enough that if you played Tipp another 6 days of the week the result would be the same? I can't help having my doubts personally! Well done to Galway none the less.

It's comedy gold stuff, one bad game and they are a bad team over night. 8 hard games in 10 weeks and only 1 bad performance in the league I'd take that overall great league for Tipp played some great hurling in all the games except for yesterday.
therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts:1191 - 24/04/2017 18:09:06 1982308

That post sums the whole thing up. If I was a Tipp fan, I'd be reflecting on a great league, and a slight reality check coming into the championship.

I know it is a lower level, but in spite of the hammering by Tipp, it is how I am reflecting on the league for ourselves. Promotion and a reality check at the end coming into the championship.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 25/04/2017 09:17:37    1982426

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Replying To mike03:  "He comes out with stuff like this AFTER a team is beaten. If he thinks Tipp are no good then why not say it in January. He slated Galway AFTER last year's Leinster final. Again, why not slate them the day before that match in his column?

The difference between Loughnane and the likes of Joe Brolly is Brolly is consistent and says it as he sees it. He said numerous times over the years that he didn't think Gooch was a great player. It's not just something he said last week to get a bit of notice. Whereas Loughnane comes out with stuff based on one result and can change his tune within a week."
Ger is a great man to kick a team/manager/player when they're down. Like you say, I don't recall him ever saying Tipp weren't a good team or had half a dozen players not of inter-county standard before Sunday. He wrote a scurrilous piece about Brian Cody and the Kilkenny team after Kilkenny lost the 2010 All-Ireland final. They hadn't lost a championship match in 5 years prior to that so he had been waiting 5 years to unload both barrels on Cody, and he took his shot.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 25/04/2017 10:59:44    1982469

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any chance of a county board giving Ger a job on the sideline again?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 25/04/2017 11:29:23    1982485

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Ger is a great man to kick a team/manager/player when they're down. Like you say, I don't recall him ever saying Tipp weren't a good team or had half a dozen players not of inter-county standard before Sunday. He wrote a scurrilous piece about Brian Cody and the Kilkenny team after Kilkenny lost the 2010 All-Ireland final. They hadn't lost a championship match in 5 years prior to that so he had been waiting 5 years to unload both barrels on Cody, and he took his shot."
Agree. His comments about Michael Donohue last year (Fr Trendy) and Joe Canning (doesn't know where he got his reputation from) was enough for me to stop paying any heed. He flip flops more than a lad after 15 pints in a pub.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 25/04/2017 12:29:24    1982506

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In the last year loughnanne has called kilkenny average,Galway gutless and tipp soft.

Question is who is any good then!!

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/04/2017 13:57:44    1982533

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "As pointed out Galway are capable of this so you can't call it a freak result."
Ah will you not be so pedantic.I said before the game that Galway were capable of hammering Tipp.Unlikely but possible.It happened, Galway hammered Tipp.
When I referred to it as a freak I meant that it was a rarity unlikely to be repeated for a while.
If Galway met Tipp again next Sunday do you honestly think they would win by such a margin?

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 25/04/2017 15:51:19    1982572

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The only thing worse than being talked about is...............

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 25/04/2017 16:17:23    1982582

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It's true what Brian Cody says repeatedly- 'It's all on the day'.

Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - Posts: 136 - 25/04/2017 16:25:38    1982586

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Replying To Condorman:  "Ah will you not be so pedantic.I said before the game that Galway were capable of hammering Tipp.Unlikely but possible.It happened, Galway hammered Tipp.
When I referred to it as a freak I meant that it was a rarity unlikely to be repeated for a while.
If Galway met Tipp again next Sunday do you honestly think they would win by such a margin?"
Sure you must confuse yourself at times then. You said they could hammer them but then said it was a freak result. The margin was a surprise but they tanked Kilkenny in Leinster not so long ago. Galway can beat anyone on their day, and I think they are tougher physically this year.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 26/04/2017 11:13:46    1982810

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Sure you must confuse yourself at times then. You said they could hammer them but then said it was a freak result. The margin was a surprise but they tanked Kilkenny in Leinster not so long ago. Galway can beat anyone on their day, and I think they are tougher physically this year."
Do I need to explain the difference between 'could' and 'actually' to you?
Dublin could hammer Galway next time out in Tullamore.I don't think they will and if it did happen it would be a freak result but it could happen.
Mayo could win the Sam Maguire for instance......

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 26/04/2017 13:56:26    1982878

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