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Galway vs Kildare League Final

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Replying To galwayfan:  "Exactly what the Rossies did last year.....minus the cup;)"
Interesting definition of 'exactly' Galwayfan.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 10/04/2017 15:59:59    1978035

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Replying To kingdomfan:  "Thought that the quality of football in this game was very poor especially in the first half. I was sitting next to a Galway fan from Tuam and we both agreed that both Galway and Kildare will really struggle in Division 1 next year. The difference in pace between the 2 finals yesterday was astonishing and I cannot see Galway or Kildare having any say in their provinces this summer based on yesterday. Galway were extremely porous at the back and can be cut open at will like Tipperary did in last years quarter final. Think both Kildare and Galway will be lucky to be still playing in late July"
Galway beat Mayo only last year in Castlebar. Even two years ago they gave Mayo plenty of it in Salthill and this Galway side has improved quite a bit since two years ago. I would be surprised if it isn't another tight game between the two this year.

Kildare alright are probably a good bit away from challenging the Dubs just yet. Going the right way though.

And even though the first half was quite poor yesterday the second half was actually very enjoyable. Full of good scores and high fielding.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2217 - 10/04/2017 16:08:16    1978038

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Congrats to Galway
It was a fairly poor first half but better second. For me the Galway midfield got the upper hand and once they got a few subs on they kicked the scores that they probably should have been taking earlier in the game. Not a good performance from Kildare to be honest, some absolute awful giveaways of possession and pointless 50/50 passes. On a positive, I guess Niall Kelly, Fergal Conway, Eoin Doyle and Feeley, but we are short a few leaders. Corner forwards were isolated amongst defenders and had little support when they did get the ball into them.
Division One is going to be a struggle for both these teams when you compare the two finals from yesterday, nonetheless that is where they will try to improve next spring and while Kerry and Dublin are the best two teams in the Country there are others in the Division not so unbeatable.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 10/04/2017 17:22:41    1978069

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Replying To kingdomfan:  "Thought that the quality of football in this game was very poor especially in the first half. I was sitting next to a Galway fan from Tuam and we both agreed that both Galway and Kildare will really struggle in Division 1 next year. The difference in pace between the 2 finals yesterday was astonishing and I cannot see Galway or Kildare having any say in their provinces this summer based on yesterday. Galway were extremely porous at the back and can be cut open at will like Tipperary did in last years quarter final. Think both Kildare and Galway will be lucky to be still playing in late July"
And that's exactly what we want to hear. People not rating us to add to Brolly's cut at us last night on the box. There is a general thinking out there by some that the old order will continue indefinitely. Well let me assure you time changes and things change. Of course we are far from flawless but certainly making progress in terms of some sort of consistency. If you cannot see that given where we have come from well that's as much as I can say.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 10/04/2017 17:28:51    1978072

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The first half was dreadful.Both teams were nervous and there was too much hand passing, it felt like a challenge game.
It improved a good deal in the 2nd half and Galway were worthy winners in the end.They still seem a bit lightweight to me though.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 10/04/2017 18:03:25    1978077

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Galway have some brilliant attacking footballers and a good midfield. The jury is still out on their defence when they come up against high class and physical forwards.

Galway seemed to play well within themselves yesterday. Felt Galway could have hammered Kildare if they were bothered but I feel they are holding an awful lot back for the championship.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 10/04/2017 19:00:32    1978097

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Galway are holding back on giving out hammerings until they meet Roscommon is that what you mean?
You know from experience I guess.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 11/04/2017 17:20:26    1978516

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Was it the Division 1 final Galway won????....you would swear it was...it was a Division 2 final against Kildare whom are only a shadow of the the team that NEARLY made a break through a few years ago...Galway wont keep it kicked out to Dublin or Kerry later in the year...Kildare are capable on the day of putting in a strong challenge...Galway winning in Croke park in so many years??not really anything to be shouting about depending on how often you get there and then who it is your playing when you get there....in 5 years time the Dublin Kerry game on Sunday will scarcely be remembered so that puts all these mickey mouse "league finals" of the other divisions into perspective..Offaly won the league as its reported beating down back in the mid 2000's..it was a Division 3 final...did it do anything for them???..the beat Longford last year..did it do anything for them winning the "league final" as it was called...these are just gimmicks to get the fans on board and buy tickets for Croke Park etc. etc..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 12/04/2017 00:01:39    1978630

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Was it the Division 1 final Galway won????....you would swear it was...it was a Division 2 final against Kildare whom are only a shadow of the the team that NEARLY made a break through a few years ago...Galway wont keep it kicked out to Dublin or Kerry later in the year...Kildare are capable on the day of putting in a strong challenge...Galway winning in Croke park in so many years??not really anything to be shouting about depending on how often you get there and then who it is your playing when you get there....in 5 years time the Dublin Kerry game on Sunday will scarcely be remembered so that puts all these mickey mouse "league finals" of the other divisions into perspective..Offaly won the league as its reported beating down back in the mid 2000's..it was a Division 3 final...did it do anything for them???..the beat Longford last year..did it do anything for them winning the "league final" as it was called...these are just gimmicks to get the fans on board and buy tickets for Croke Park etc. etc.."
What are you on about? We know we are no where near Dublin or Kerry standard yet but we are making progress. Winning a Connacht title last year and playing in Division 1 next season will help this teams development.

mon (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 12/04/2017 08:07:11    1978658

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Was it the Division 1 final Galway won????....you would swear it was...it was a Division 2 final against Kildare whom are only a shadow of the the team that NEARLY made a break through a few years ago...Galway wont keep it kicked out to Dublin or Kerry later in the year...Kildare are capable on the day of putting in a strong challenge...Galway winning in Croke park in so many years??not really anything to be shouting about depending on how often you get there and then who it is your playing when you get there....in 5 years time the Dublin Kerry game on Sunday will scarcely be remembered so that puts all these mickey mouse "league finals" of the other divisions into perspective..Offaly won the league as its reported beating down back in the mid 2000's..it was a Division 3 final...did it do anything for them???..the beat Longford last year..did it do anything for them winning the "league final" as it was called...these are just gimmicks to get the fans on board and buy tickets for Croke Park etc. etc.."
Not sure what's got you so worked up to be honest. Are you replying to somebody or just generally ranting?

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2217 - 12/04/2017 20:19:12    1978913

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Replying To Marooned:  "Not sure what's got you so worked up to be honest. Are you replying to somebody or just generally ranting?"
what ever about ranting their were a few raving in this blog all week....just reading through the blog all week and one would think that there was no other game played last weekend...there was fair ranting in the blog all week...well done to Galway on their win...hopefully Kildare will carry some threat in Leinster...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 12/04/2017 22:39:06    1978955

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "what ever about ranting their were a few raving in this blog all week....just reading through the blog all week and one would think that there was no other game played last weekend...there was fair ranting in the blog all week...well done to Galway on their win...hopefully Kildare will carry some threat in Leinster..."
I presume as this blog was about the division 2 final that was the only game discussed. On the blog Would seem pretty logical to me!

Just had a look back through the blog and apart from a Meath man that thinks Galway are great I didn't see much ranting.

Anyway what u doing in the division 2 blog ........ Did u get take a wrong turn on ur way to division 3???

Not to worry. U seem happy anyway and u can pop in and visit is in division 2 blog (or division 1 next year) any time. Ur very welcome!

PS what happened between u and Galway. Does the Galway train pass ur house and keep u awake?? Go on tell us ..... What happened???

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 12/04/2017 23:10:07    1978964

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Replying To Mayonman:  "I presume as this blog was about the division 2 final that was the only game discussed. On the blog Would seem pretty logical to me!

Just had a look back through the blog and apart from a Meath man that thinks Galway are great I didn't see much ranting.

Anyway what u doing in the division 2 blog ........ Did u get take a wrong turn on ur way to division 3???

Not to worry. U seem happy anyway and u can pop in and visit is in division 2 blog (or division 1 next year) any time. Ur very welcome!

PS what happened between u and Galway. Does the Galway train pass ur house and keep u awake?? Go on tell us ..... What happened???"
no train or anything...this is a public blog...I dont see any restrictions on it...just think ye are getting a little carried away with your "league final" win...every county has their day and all counties with the exception maybe of Kerry and Dublin will see life in Division 3..enjoy success it doesnt stay around for ever as we and other counties find every 20/30 years...I remember when Connaught football was absolutely dire..remember some atrocious provincial finals...remember Cork hammering a terrible Mayo team in an All Ireland semi final around 1993 or so..anyway good luck in the up comming Championship and dont take things so serious, its only a blog for Gods sake..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 13/04/2017 22:57:17    1979264

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "no train or anything...this is a public blog...I dont see any restrictions on it...just think ye are getting a little carried away with your "league final" win...every county has their day and all counties with the exception maybe of Kerry and Dublin will see life in Division 3..enjoy success it doesnt stay around for ever as we and other counties find every 20/30 years...I remember when Connaught football was absolutely dire..remember some atrocious provincial finals...remember Cork hammering a terrible Mayo team in an All Ireland semi final around 1993 or so..anyway good luck in the up comming Championship and dont take things so serious, its only a blog for Gods sake.."
Who's getting carried away though exactly? You don't give any examples. I don't even know who you are meant to be arguing against? And what does Connacht football at the end of the 1980's have to do with anything today? It just seems like a nonsensical rant.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2217 - 14/04/2017 01:57:00    1979296

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "no train or anything...this is a public blog...I dont see any restrictions on it...just think ye are getting a little carried away with your "league final" win...every county has their day and all counties with the exception maybe of Kerry and Dublin will see life in Division 3..enjoy success it doesnt stay around for ever as we and other counties find every 20/30 years...I remember when Connaught football was absolutely dire..remember some atrocious provincial finals...remember Cork hammering a terrible Mayo team in an All Ireland semi final around 1993 or so..anyway good luck in the up comming Championship and dont take things so serious, its only a blog for Gods sake.."
FairPlayAlways - "I remember when Connaught football was absolutely dire"

A bit like Leinster for the past 10 years and counting....maybe you should be looking closer to home and worrying about what is happening there.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 14/04/2017 09:17:31    1979314

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That's offaly neighbourly of you Fairplayanyways! You seem to have a bee (or is it a wasp) in your bonnet!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1809 - 14/04/2017 10:22:40    1979331

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Was it the Division 1 final Galway won????....you would swear it was...it was a Division 2 final against Kildare whom are only a shadow of the the team that NEARLY made a break through a few years ago...Galway wont keep it kicked out to Dublin or Kerry later in the year...Kildare are capable on the day of putting in a strong challenge...Galway winning in Croke park in so many years??not really anything to be shouting about depending on how often you get there and then who it is your playing when you get there....in 5 years time the Dublin Kerry game on Sunday will scarcely be remembered so that puts all these mickey mouse "league finals" of the other divisions into perspective..Offaly won the league as its reported beating down back in the mid 2000's..it was a Division 3 final...did it do anything for them???..the beat Longford last year..did it do anything for them winning the "league final" as it was called...these are just gimmicks to get the fans on board and buy tickets for Croke Park etc. etc.."
Offaly won the real League final in '98 I believe, beating Galway in the q-final in Roscommon on the way. Galway won Sam Maguire about 4 month's later, which emphasizes the point that you're making about league & championship, in fairly local terms. I wouldn't get too worked up about 'the state' of Connacht football in '93, based on the performance of one team in one match. A lot of that Mayo squad should have won Sam in '96, just three years later. The up & down nature of it had a bit to do with team preparation in the era perhaps. One year, Mayo would be 'pushing cars' in training, and not throwing a leg in championship, and the next year, with or even without 'regime change', they could be all business & blow you off the field. Your assessment on the relative merits of Kildare & Galway currently is off the wall. Galway are no worldbeaters, but on all known current form, they do not appear to be an inferior outfit to Kildare in terms of current strengths/weaknesses, or in potential for future development.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3437 - 14/04/2017 12:15:00    1979363

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Replying To yew_tree:  "FairPlayAlways - "I remember when Connaught football was absolutely dire"

A bit like Leinster for the past 10 years and counting....maybe you should be looking closer to home and worrying about what is happening there."
5 counties in Connaught plus London and New York...Leitrim and Sligo then...leaving Galway Mayo and sometimes Roscommon to battle it out for Connaught, so most years its Mayo or Galway who win Connaught...Dublin now are the "Kilkenny" in football terms in Ireland..let alone Leinster..which was competitive upto a few years ago when Meath and Kildare were serious contenders. Connaught teams dont have to worry about meeting the All Ireland champions in May or June...even in Munster the weaker teams have Cork and Kerry to face early Summer...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 14/04/2017 23:51:39    1979489

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Offaly won the real League final in '98 I believe, beating Galway in the q-final in Roscommon on the way. Galway won Sam Maguire about 4 month's later, which emphasizes the point that you're making about league & championship, in fairly local terms. I wouldn't get too worked up about 'the state' of Connacht football in '93, based on the performance of one team in one match. A lot of that Mayo squad should have won Sam in '96, just three years later. The up & down nature of it had a bit to do with team preparation in the era perhaps. One year, Mayo would be 'pushing cars' in training, and not throwing a leg in championship, and the next year, with or even without 'regime change', they could be all business & blow you off the field. Your assessment on the relative merits of Kildare & Galway currently is off the wall. Galway are no worldbeaters, but on all known current form, they do not appear to be an inferior outfit to Kildare in terms of current strengths/weaknesses, or in potential for future development."
I think if one goes and checks the Connaught Championships of 1990 to 1993 (which was a good final I remember)...the standard was ferocious I think the 1993 Connaught final was 1-05 to 0-07..so I think having a an off day against Cork in 1993 is being very generous indeed to that Mayo team...Leinster is in poor place now too standard wise, but is it either or are Dublin making all other teams in Leinster look so inferior...Mayo are the best team in Mayo but unfortunately getting the All Ireland after multiple attempts would do wonders for Connaught football...I am genuinely speaking from a football sense here folks..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 14/04/2017 23:58:31    1979491

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I think if one goes and checks the Connaught Championships of 1990 to 1993 (which was a good final I remember)...the standard was ferocious I think the 1993 Connaught final was 1-05 to 0-07..so I think having a an off day against Cork in 1993 is being very generous indeed to that Mayo team...Leinster is in poor place now too standard wise, but is it either or are Dublin making all other teams in Leinster look so inferior...Mayo are the best team in Mayo but unfortunately getting the All Ireland after multiple attempts would do wonders for Connaught football...I am genuinely speaking from a football sense here folks.."
It' actually CONNACHT not the English version you keep using. Why a GAA person would do that I wonder.

Look you seem to have an issue over Connacht standards. Fact is we have seen Sligo, Roscommon, Galway and Mayo all win Connacht Championships in recent years.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 15/04/2017 09:13:48    1979505

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