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Galway vs Kildare League Final

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "Galway haven't won a match in croke park since 2001..they struggled against Kildare B team today at home,so i can't really imagine galway doing any better against Kildare full strength team !"
its the Division 2 final people should remember..the Gaa have all these "league finals"...Dublin and Kerry will be the only game most people will be watching next weekend...people get carried away a bit with this "final" talk...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 04/04/2017 22:41:40    1975794

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "its the Division 2 final people should remember..the Gaa have all these "league finals"...Dublin and Kerry will be the only game most people will be watching next weekend...people get carried away a bit with this "final" talk..."
says the offaly man !!!!!

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 04/04/2017 23:08:56    1975809

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I see the grab all association strikes again with the price of admission to the div 1 and div 2 finals and no under 16s tickets for the hogan stand .... it's the league ... so leave the price as league matches have been

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 334 - 04/04/2017 23:41:32    1975824

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League finals happen in the club scene all over the country. It's hardly a new thing.
In this case it makes perfect sense, seen as Kildare were already promoted before Sunday then a final of the top two to decide the winners is right. It's the same in Division 4 where Wexford rested players with games to spare.
Offaly and Meath people saying these don't matter. Not to you.
Dublin, Kerry, Kildare, Galway, Louth, Tipp, Wexford and Westmeath. Sure it's not championship but it does matter and there's a trophy to win.
Galway have the advantage of momentum and too good of a record against us, hopefully we can upset the odds

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 05/04/2017 08:50:38    1975863

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After this game Galways next game is Mayo/Sligo on 11th June. That is a long break so this game is important to Galway in the build up to the Connacht Championship. Winning it would be nice but putting one or two problem positions to bed is the main focus. You could play 10 challenge games and learn less!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 05/04/2017 09:20:57    1975875

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "its the Division 2 final people should remember..the Gaa have all these "league finals"...Dublin and Kerry will be the only game most people will be watching next weekend...people get carried away a bit with this "final" talk..."
Donegal won the 2011 final after a long barren spell. Later that year they won the Ulster title and then defeated Kildare after extra time in an epic quarter final. I dont need to remind you what that has done for them in recent years. Winning is a habit. Make no mistake the division two title is massive for both Kildare and Galway.

EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 05/04/2017 09:40:43    1975883

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Kildare would be favourites especially since they rested the A team last week, hopefully it will be a good spectacle. It's great for both counties. Galway have not been seen nationally since their slip up against Tipp last July at HQ, hope we can improve here.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1670 - 05/04/2017 10:18:49    1975905

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All the pressure on Kildare to win comfortably considering their 'B' team nearly beat a 'full strength' Galway team.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 05/04/2017 15:10:48    1976030

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Replying To TheWestIsAwake:  "All the pressure on Kildare to win comfortably considering their 'B' team nearly beat a 'full strength' Galway team."
Looking forward to a good attacking game TheWestIsAwake. Don't think that last Sunday's game will have any bearing on the Final. Interesting statistics; Galway havn't won in croke Park in their last 11 appearances while Kildare havn't beaten Galway in their last 11 meetings.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2991 - 06/04/2017 14:41:38    1976527

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Kildare team named:

Mark Donnellan

Mick O'Grady, David Hyland, Ollie Lyons
Johnny Byrne, Eoin Doyle, Keith Cribbin

Kevin Feely, Tommy Moolick

Fergal Conway, Fionn Dowling, Paul Cribbin
Chris Healy, Niall Kelly, Ben McCormack

Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 374 - 07/04/2017 08:58:04    1976771

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Kildare team pretty much picked itself, only question would have been whether Fionn Dowling or Niall Kelly would be at 11.

Expecting a much better performance from Galway too, can't imagine them bringing 14 or 15 players back inside their own 45 like they did last weekend. Their main aim was not to lose and they did that however necessary, if they go out with the same game plan this Sunday I'd expect us to win. If they let loose and attack in numbers then it should be an open high scoring game.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 07/04/2017 09:27:47    1976776

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "Kildare team pretty much picked itself, only question would have been whether Fionn Dowling or Niall Kelly would be at 11.

Expecting a much better performance from Galway too, can't imagine them bringing 14 or 15 players back inside their own 45 like they did last weekend. Their main aim was not to lose and they did that however necessary, if they go out with the same game plan this Sunday I'd expect us to win. If they let loose and attack in numbers then it should be an open high scoring game."
They did that ( bringing 14 men back )against Derry and scored 5 15, Down 3 15 , Clare 3 13.. They have been doing it alot in this years league so id expect them to do it again .

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 07/04/2017 10:34:59    1976801

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They did that ( bringing 14 men back )against Derry and scored 5 15, Down 3 15 , Clare 3 13.. They have been doing it alot in this years league so id expect them to do it again.

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts:836 - 07/04/2017


Interesting, bar Shane Walsh and the 2 wing backs I didn't think they offered a whole lot on the counter attack to be honest. Many forwards missing at the moment?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 07/04/2017 10:44:34    1976806

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Not really, Michael Daly has played well when he has played , Danny Cummins is still injured along with Comer, Rumours that Comer, Cummins and maybe even Mike Meehan will be on the bench Sunday. I just think there was an awful fear in the team of losing last Sunday and thats why they defended in numbers but didnt break in numbers which they were doing all league. Id expect to see a change in that regard on Sunday, as number one priorty, ie promotion has been achieved.

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 07/04/2017 11:09:50    1976811

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Not really, Michael Daly has played well when he has played , Danny Cummins is still injured along with Comer, Rumours that Comer, Cummins and maybe even Mike Meehan will be on the bench Sunday. I just think there was an awful fear in the team of losing last Sunday and thats why they defended in numbers but didnt break in numbers which they were doing all league. Id expect to see a change in that regard on Sunday, as number one priorty, ie promotion has been achieved."
Interesting final. I think these two young teams have potential in the next few years.kildare have had a golden age at underage level. And some of the players they have produced are serious talent. Eoin Doyle looks like a serious player a potential all star and could turn into one of the best centre backs in the country. Niall Kelly another potential all star, is the best centre forward Kildare have produced since Tompkins. The guy Feelihy at midfield looks good as well. But I think Flynn and McCormack in the forward line could be the key for the Kildare. Kildares problem area has always been their inside line. Even in late 90s and under McGeeney they lacked in the full forward line. What I have seen of McCormack and Flynn they could be the best out and out corner forwards Kildare have produced in the last thirty years. I know John Doyle was a top class forward but I always thought was more of a half forward. While O Neill looks like he could be a good manager. If not Glen Ryan, the Roy Keane of Kildare football, will take over. As Colm O Rourke said Kildare our a team for the future. I agree with this this as kildare are good enough to win at 2 leinster titles in the next few years . There problem is Dublin. Dublin for decades have had Kildare in a mental straight jacket. Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster Final in 90 years I still think Meath are the team most likely to beat Dublin in leinster next. But if this happens I can see Kildare having a successful period similar to the late 90s. As a Meath victory would give the province of leinster a massive lease of life . So a league win on Sunday would be a good start.
It's fascinating to note that Kildare have never won the national Division 1 title. When you look at the league div 1 roll of honour it's has less winners and a smaller spread of winners then in the All Ireland competition. The top counties are Kerry with 18 titiles Dublin 12 , Mayo 11, Cork 8, Meath 7, Derry 6, Galway and Down 4. Galway have not won the league 1 title since the early 80s. While so many other strong great gaelic football counties have only won the league div 1 once and just very recently. For example Offaly, Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal have all one the league title once and in the last 19 years. The league while people see as a good competition has had a smaller group of winners in the top tier. People have said replacing the championship with a league format, is the way to go. But if you look at the league system Kerry and Dublin have still dominated.

Lyons2000 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 07/04/2017 20:07:55    1976993

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Not really, Michael Daly has played well when he has played , Danny Cummins is still injured along with Comer, Rumours that Comer, Cummins and maybe even Mike Meehan will be on the bench Sunday. I just think there was an awful fear in the team of losing last Sunday and thats why they defended in numbers but didnt break in numbers which they were doing all league. Id expect to see a change in that regard on Sunday, as number one priorty, ie promotion has been achieved."
Regards Galway. They have a very young team. One of the youngest teams in the country backboned by 3 under 21 All Ireland winning teams. Mayo have dominanted football in Connacht recently. Mayo do have an older team. So one would expect Galway to become the main force in Connacht in the coming years. Connacht has swung from Mayo to Galway dominance for decades . You have had some special teams from Leitrim eg 93 and Sligo winning the Connacht title in recent times. And Roscommon have also produced quality teams and players. But Galway and Mayo are two main powerhouses in connacht football. If Mayo were to decline a bit one would expect Galway to become top dogs in the west. There is a chance if Roscommon were to get things together, Roscomon have the potential to become the main team in Connacht. Roscommon have some of the best young forwards in the country . Roscommon are a top class manager away from being a top class team. They have the raw ingredients but I have doubts regarding McStay . If an Ulster manager eg Tony McEntee took over Roscommon, I think this could really work out. But anyway it's still likely that Galway will take over the west. The forward department looks real good. With Walsh looking like another Galway forward genius following in the footsteps of Purcell , Joyce and Donnellan. But the full back line is a serious weakness. And you will not win many championships with a dodgy full back final. I also have doubts regarding Kevin Walsh. Ever since O Haras outburst on the Sunday game I have had doubts about K Walsh and I know many Galway supporters have concerns about his tactical awareness. Joyce could be a better option. Or maybe do what they did in the 90s and go across the border. James Horan would be a perfect fit for Galway. You could see Galway winning Sam under Horan. But overall Galway do look like a team to watch out for in the coming years.
If they win Sunday it will be a good start. For their record recently in Croker has been very poor. With no victories in Croker in 16 years and this includes 11 loses at headquarters. Sometimes I feel Galway hurlers get a bad rap while their footballers are let off the hook. What I mean is the hurlers continue to reach finals and are there are there about. But if you look at Galway footballers in the last thirty years they have underachieved in many ways. Listen Everyone loves Galway county who doesn't like Connemara or Galway city. It's one of our most loved and most famous counties. I know emigration and competition from other sports is an issue in Galway. But I do believerything their footballers have underachieved in recent times. When you examine Galway football there is some startling stats.

Lyons2000 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 07/04/2017 20:45:05    1977002

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@Lyons2000 lay off the sauce there will you like a good lad? If you can't see what O'Hara said about Kevin for what it was (an over the hill past player with an agenda against the manager who had the balls to get rid of him) you're naive in the extreme. The fact is that Kevin is the first manager to set us up with a system to cope with the modern game, I think any genuine Galway supporter would acknowledge this.

johnjoe21 (Galway) - Posts: 126 - 07/04/2017 21:21:35    1977008

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The true genius and greatness of Galway football occurs in the years 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. During this period Galway have the Master on the team, arguably the greatest footballer of all time winning Sam in 56. This period ends with the three in a row team of the sixties . This team is a very special team , the greatest team to ever cross the Shannon. One of the greatest teams ever and arguably the second greatest after the Kerry team of the 70s and 80s. But in the last 50 years Galway have underachieved. Between the early 70s and early 80s Galway were strong reaching 4 finals. But like Mayo recently they lost 4 finals eg 71, 73, 74 and 83. In the last thirty years Galway majoirty of the time have been a division 2 and even Division 3 county.
However 98-01 was a glorious period for Galway. Everyone rejoiced seen Galway back at the top table. Also their style of football was rightly praised. The team had top class backs eg Mannion, Og De Paor, Megan and Walsh. Kevin Walsh was a powerhouse at midfield. But the forwards were truly great . Fallon was the leader .Joyce became one of the greatest forwards of all time. While Donnellan was one of the greatest talents ever to cross the Shannon. Only Sean Purcell and Dermot Earley Snr had more talent then Donnellan. Donnellan is 98 was the Brian O Driscoll of Gaelic football.

Lyons2000 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 07/04/2017 21:55:06    1977014

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Thats amazing record Galway not winning in Croke Park since 2001. how many games have they lost?

patnback (Cork) - Posts: 28 - 07/04/2017 21:55:22    1977015

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Replying To patnback:  "Thats amazing record Galway not winning in Croke Park since 2001. how many games have they lost?"
Galway have lost 11 games between 2001 and 2016 in Croke Park. Mayo probaly have won 15 or more . I'm not sure how many Mayo have won in the same period. But Galway have lost 11 in headquarters.
Many Galway supporters I have talked to have questioned K Walshs tactical awareness. James Horan would be a perfect fit for Galway. Similar to O Mahoney in 98.

Lyons2000 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 07/04/2017 22:10:18    1977021

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