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Replying To Daz73: "Anybody got stats on today's game .would love to see the free count for and against dublin today .Thought ref very one sided today" I'm curious as to the mentality behind this thinking? Does a high free count not mean one team was constantly fouling? Why do you think it means the ref might be biased? Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 03/04/2017 19:44:21 1975006 Link
Replying To hardcore: "Darren Hughes black card was wrong......it was not a trip.......Connolly's black card was a yellow............Carey's Yellow card should of been black!!! Bernard Brogan's off the ball shoulder without the ball is a black card which Joe McQuillan seen and waved at the Monaghan player to get up off the ground!! The Black card isnt the problem its the Referee's who dont know the rule.........where was the linesmen yesterday??.............in Omagh we had linesmen who couldnt wait to have their say to get players sent off, yesterday we seen no linesman enter the pitch to help the Ref who was having a nightmare!!" Agree with you there were several off ball tackles like brogan and doogans, linesmen and umpires all can see these aswell and should be putting an input in. Officiating has been poor for last few years now and nothing ever gets highlighted by analysts or pundits it's just same old lane excuse of human error, but unless you raise poor officiating in general then the standards won't ever improve as they can just have had performances wiped under the carpet each week. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/04/2017 19:51:44 1975011 Link
Replying To Jackeen: "30k for nets??? Seriously?" yep, properly designed and certified just installed in anew pitch at home 40mtr W x 22mtr H triple ply netting and multi strand 10mm cabling then 7cubic mtr concrete per stantion plus 4 cubic mtr per support strut. Soon adds up and could be more concrete depending on sub soil structure. bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 03/04/2017 19:57:01 1975013 Link
Replying To hardcore: "Darren Hughes black card was wrong......it was not a trip.......Connolly's black card was a yellow............Carey's Yellow card should of been black!!! Bernard Brogan's off the ball shoulder without the ball is a black card which Joe McQuillan seen and waved at the Monaghan player to get up off the ground!! The Black card isnt the problem its the Referee's who dont know the rule.........where was the linesmen yesterday??.............in Omagh we had linesmen who couldnt wait to have their say to get players sent off, yesterday we seen no linesman enter the pitch to help the Ref who was having a nightmare!!" I didn't think Careys was a black , for me he had to put a tackle in and I think Fenton tripped over his legs when running through. For me he didn't deliberately pull him down so yellow was right. Someone saying Fenton went down easily from Hughes trip obviously never played sport, any little trip to the foot when running makes you go over easily enough. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/04/2017 20:11:40 1975025 Link
Replying To bulmccabe: "yep, properly designed and certified just installed in anew pitch at home 40mtr W x 22mtr H triple ply netting and multi strand 10mm cabling then 7cubic mtr concrete per stantion plus 4 cubic mtr per support strut. Soon adds up and could be more concrete depending on sub soil structure." Jamie mac! Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 03/04/2017 21:32:28 1975078 Link
Do they ever host hurling games in clones or omagh? Surely health and safety would have to have behind the goals closed at that rate as navan can't allow people behind goal because it has grass and not concrete surely no nets would be worse for hurling. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/04/2017 21:38:20 1975081 Link
The lad who is emailing Monaghan county board about the nets behind the goal???? I am 99% certain that the Ulster Council owns Clones pitch. AFAIK they provided Clones gaa pitch with a new grounds in lieu of taking the stadium. theborderfox (Monaghan) - Posts: 138 - 03/04/2017 21:53:58 1975090 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "Can't agree with Hughes argument he clearly tripped Fenton intentionally, it was needless and stupid but he did it and the rule is an intentional trip is a black card so he gave the ref no option but most of the others I agree with you on, it's the lack of consistency within a game not even from game to game on the cards is what is the biggest problem here, as Fenton in the second half was bursting in towards goal and was intentionally tripped again but the player didn't recieve a black card this time so you would wonder what goes through refs minds when deciding, if I was Hughes that's what I would be questioning the ref on after the game why he got one and the other monaghan player didn't for the same offence" Initially I thought the foul on Fenton was a black but the replay shows the ref called it right. He was tugged back deliberately and the legs got tangled accidentally. It's only a black if he's deliberately brought to the ground and he wasn't. The net result might be the same but that's not what the rule states. We can argue about what the rule should be but that's not the refs call and he got it right. Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 03/04/2017 22:14:50 1975099 Link
Replying To Iamlegion666: "I'm curious as to the mentality behind this thinking? Does a high free count not mean one team was constantly fouling? Why do you think it means the ref might be biased?" Iamlegion666 Mentality ,wow take off the blinkers lad .joe Mac was terrible yesterday some bad calls on both sides agreed but Dublin defoo on the wrong side of his whistle .This has been a trend with the dubs for a long time .I Reject any acusation that this is a dirty team or a team found lacking in the skill of tackling .In nearly every game they play the free count goes against them this surely can not be a coincedence. Daz73 (Dublin) - Posts: 6 - 03/04/2017 22:58:18 1975125 Link
Replying To arock: "So it is the woman's fault for standing behind the goal? Presumably she paid in got a ticket stipulating where she was to go also it is not unreasonable to expecte that their would be retaining nets behind the goals for chrisake's what a setup. Compo culture aside they deserve to be fleeced for this." Not defending the lack of nets but tickets for Sunday were not assigned to particular areas of the ground. You could sit or stand wherever you wanted Moscow (Monaghan) - Posts: 61 - 03/04/2017 23:32:28 1975133 Link
Replying To Moscow: "Not defending the lack of nets but tickets for Sunday were not assigned to particular areas of the ground. You could sit or stand wherever you wanted" Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if that was your mother that happened to you mightn't be so blasé. HenryHill16 (Dublin) - Posts: 249 - 04/04/2017 11:51:47 1975331 Link
Replying To Daz73: "Iamlegion666 Mentality ,wow take off the blinkers lad .joe Mac was terrible yesterday some bad calls on both sides agreed but Dublin defoo on the wrong side of his whistle .This has been a trend with the dubs for a long time .I Reject any acusation that this is a dirty team or a team found lacking in the skill of tackling .In nearly every game they play the free count goes against them this surely can not be a coincedence." It's a conspiracy is what it is the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 04/04/2017 12:22:42 1975350 Link
Replying To Daz73: "Iamlegion666 Mentality ,wow take off the blinkers lad .joe Mac was terrible yesterday some bad calls on both sides agreed but Dublin defoo on the wrong side of his whistle .This has been a trend with the dubs for a long time .I Reject any acusation that this is a dirty team or a team found lacking in the skill of tackling .In nearly every game they play the free count goes against them this surely can not be a coincedence." Are you Clondalkin in disguise? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 04/04/2017 12:47:19 1975362 Link

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