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Replying To cuttothebone:  "Your dead right, ourselves and Meath should follow Offaly's example of how to get our houses in order..."
What exactly was the point I was making got anything to do with Offaly.

Kildare and Meath are the 2 biggest counties in Leinster apart from Dublin and they are almost 100% football counties.

Offaly is a small county split 50/50 between both codes.

Kildare and Meath should be Dublins closest challengers in Leinster and they have both fallen away this decade.There is more expectation on bigger counties to perform well as they have more resources just like there is more expectation on Dublin to perform well for the same reason.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 26/03/2017 23:12:41    1971546

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Get your point uibhfhaili but just as a matter of interest there are more hurling clubs in Meath than in Offaly

Auldfella (Meath) - Posts: 472 - 26/03/2017 23:17:57    1971548

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Yea 10 years is the same as 115 playing in mostly 1 football team hurling province..."
At least we had Cork to compete with. Dublin could play in Leinster blindfolded and still win at a canter. It's far more predictable than any easy path Kerry may have enjoyed in the past.

My advice would be to enjoy the success rather than worrying about how Kerry won their 37 All Irelands. We'll be looking over our shoulders soon enough by the looks of it.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/03/2017 23:29:45    1971552

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "No one is saying money alone will turn a donkey into a racehorse, but at the top level a bunch of small incremental factors together make a massive difference

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I think an interesting comparison is the GB Indoor Cycling team which up until the London Olympic Games was unremarkable, received large funding in relation to its competitors and then got an even greater share for the Rio Games and led to an even greater domination in terms of medals than 4 years previously.

Now, of course this meant the other sports in Britain had to take a reduced share in funding to account for the increase in cycling funding and many people in the UK are asking what is the reason for Funding - Medals or the Welfare of Sport in general.

The GAA face a similar issue albeit on a smaller scale obviously - An enormously strong Dublin or the wealth spread around the country which the DCB would argue strengthens competing sports."
'Interesting' comparison ?

That'd be the GB indoor cycling under investigation for doping.

Their performances were previously unremarkable but the Dubs have pedigree.

Comparing the effect of one teams funding affecting other sports with the funding of one teams funding affecting competing teams in the same sport.

In what way is that an interesting comparison?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7368 - 26/03/2017 23:42:16    1971558

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "At least we had Cork to compete with. Dublin could play in Leinster blindfolded and still win at a canter. It's far more predictable than any easy path Kerry may have enjoyed in the past.

My advice would be to enjoy the success rather than worrying about how Kerry won their 37 All Irelands. We'll be looking over our shoulders soon enough by the looks of it."
Kerry used to only get a decent game at the quarter final stage of the championships (provincial final) when they were dominant in the 70's and 80's same applies to Dublin now.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 27/03/2017 05:15:59    1971590

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Replying To arock:  "
Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=KYTotalFootball:  "[quote=suckvalleypaddy:  "[quote=KYTotalFootball:  "They have raised the standards and SLOWED Kerry from getting to Sam # 40.

Any why was this a matter of national concern?

We have earned our success organically, certainly got F all help from Croke Park and HQ that is for sure. Are you suggesting if it was a level playing field we would win every year or what? I'm not sure......"
But I stated a fact not an opinion....Dublin have slowed down Kerry's path to Sam #40....so get over it"
So does stopping Kerry* justify creating a monopoly and destroying a vibrant and exciting Leinster Championship????

*I don't even agree with the stopping Kerry, its actually Mayo who have been denied of AI success to a far greater extent by the funding injection from both GAA & the Government. Mayo have been stronger than we have since Horan took over Donegal similar level to ourselvespossibly a bit stronger,

If there is any doubt or question as to the impact of all the money - just look at what Dublin won (in both codes and all grades) in the preceding 25-30 years and the period since 2005 and you have your answer"]Dublin's dominance hasn't a thing to do with us not being good enough to win an All Ireland for more than 65 years."]I'm not talking about the previous 5 years not 65. And without a shadow of a doubt Mayo have been the best of the rest and would have multiple AI's in that period if there wasn't such a Monster in existence

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You cant look at that link and possibly for one second tell me that there is a fair playing field. They have enough natural advantages already (sponsorship, population, closeness of jobs and universites, Home games etc) without making the advantages even greater and more apparent"]That graphic is recycled by people who simply have no clue what they are looking at. Games development funding meaning GPOs are people employed partly by the GAA and partly by local clubs these people promote and develop the games without them their is no future. Population means everything with that graphic Dublin has one third of the entire population in the country proportionally that is how GPOs are distributed. The harsh truth is Dublin self funds, they have a ramshackle ground, invest it in teams and players not infrastructure nit like or daft country cousins. BTW Dublin are entitled to a cut if their own cake, and Dublin players are as impirtant as every other player. Investing in primary school kuds - which is what really that graphic is about tells you the GAA is investing in the games are you suggesting Dublin shouldnt have GPOs? Because we dont get for nothing we cough half the cost."]That graphic was put together by Ewan McKenna.

He's messing up his figures on this.

Dublin's funding for GDO is paid directly to them. All other counties GDOs are provided for by their provincial council.

It's always quoted as Dublin receives 47% of games development money. They don't. They receive roughly 20%. Given the population, particularly the young population, that just is not disproportionate.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 27/03/2017 06:23:38    1971594

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