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Meath vs Kildare 5th February

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Sorry yeah. Predictive text gets me again, of course it should have read ben Brennan . pity I thought from club outing he looked very good."
yeah didn't get much chance in O'Byrne cup and thought he done well when ever I seen him

meathforsam09 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 31/01/2017 13:30:00    1950544

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8. bryan menton
9. adam flanagam
10. cillian o'sullivan
11. graham reilly
12. eamon wallace
13. bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. donal lenihan

this is what i think andy will go with from 8-15, really dont know what to expect with the backs but if i was the guess it would be

1. paddy orourke
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. donacha tobin (if hes unavailable, mickey burke)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde

i can say for certain im a lot more comfortable with 8-15 than i am with 1-7, thoughts?

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 31/01/2017 13:57:14    1950557

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Replying To redser123:  "8. bryan menton
9. adam flanagam
10. cillian o'sullivan
11. graham reilly
12. eamon wallace
13. bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. donal lenihan

this is what i think andy will go with from 8-15, really dont know what to expect with the backs but if i was the guess it would be

1. paddy orourke
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. donacha tobin (if hes unavailable, mickey burke)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde

i can say for certain im a lot more comfortable with 8-15 than i am with 1-7, thoughts?"
On what basis are you including Newman? Just wondering...

Aside from anything else he hasn't kicked a ball under McEntee yet.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 31/01/2017 14:31:37    1950569

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Replying To redser123:  "8. bryan menton
9. adam flanagam
10. cillian o'sullivan
11. graham reilly
12. eamon wallace
13. bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. donal lenihan

this is what i think andy will go with from 8-15, really dont know what to expect with the backs but if i was the guess it would be

1. paddy orourke
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. donacha tobin (if hes unavailable, mickey burke)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde

i can say for certain im a lot more comfortable with 8-15 than i am with 1-7, thoughts?"
Probably agree although I'd have Kennelly in.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/01/2017 14:36:51    1950570

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Replying To redser123:  "8. bryan menton
9. adam flanagam
10. cillian o'sullivan
11. graham reilly
12. eamon wallace
13. bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. donal lenihan

this is what i think andy will go with from 8-15, really dont know what to expect with the backs but if i was the guess it would be

1. paddy orourke
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. donacha tobin (if hes unavailable, mickey burke)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde

i can say for certain im a lot more comfortable with 8-15 than i am with 1-7, thoughts?"
1. Jack Hannigan
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. mickey burke (I am guessing D tobin is injured)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde
8. bryan menton
9. Adam flanagam
10. Cllian o'sullivan
11. Graham reilly
12. Paddy kennelly
13. Bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. Donal lenihan

I would change it a bit.
I would start Kennelly bring on Emmon Wallace later in the game to use his pace.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 31/01/2017 14:46:53    1950574

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "On what basis are you including Newman? Just wondering...

Aside from anything else he hasn't kicked a ball under McEntee yet."
that's is definitely a fair point, im presuming he was maybe carrying a injury throughout the obyrne cup, my reason for including him is simple enough, in my eyes hes our biggest point and goalscoring threat

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 31/01/2017 15:21:47    1950591

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Replying To redser123:  "8. bryan menton
9. adam flanagam
10. cillian o'sullivan
11. graham reilly
12. eamon wallace
13. bryan mcmahon
14. mickey newman
15. donal lenihan

this is what i think andy will go with from 8-15, really dont know what to expect with the backs but if i was the guess it would be

1. paddy orourke
2. donal keoghan
3. conor mcgill
4. donacha tobin (if hes unavailable, mickey burke)
5. conor downey
6. padraig harnan
7. alan forde

i can say for certain im a lot more comfortable with 8-15 than i am with 1-7, thoughts?"
I'd be slightly disappointed that after all the players tried if we're going with guys who have already been there before and there's nothing much new.

It would show a few things
1) there's no new talent available from within
2) Andy is putting it to the lads there to show they can actually do it
3) Some lads might be on their last chances and could be replaced by lads coming from U-21's
4) With a clearer game plan maybe these guys can actually perform
5) He's hoping the U21can go far, get the winning habit and infuse them into the team come championship team and that will be the injection of freshness we require to improve the team

I think Andy will now start showing his hand in terms of a definitive team, game plan and tactics. He's tried out he's pieces and has a better idea of where they will fit on the board.

If i was to hazard a guess for Sunday
I'd say he goes
Hannigan
Curran Keogan McGill
Harnan Power Forde
C O'Brien Menton
O'Sullivan Reilly Kenneally
Wallace O'Coilean Newman

I think come championship time it'll be
Hannigan
Keogan O'Neill McGovern
Harnan Conlan Forde
C O'Brien Menton
O'Sullivan Reilly Newman
Wallace O'Coilean McLoughlin

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 31/01/2017 15:25:02    1950593

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Also, won't Forde be suspended after his red vs Louth?

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 31/01/2017 15:52:10    1950604

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "Also, won't Forde be suspended after his red vs Louth?"
No, reds don't caryy over from O'Byrne. He is free to play.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/01/2017 16:07:59    1950611

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Replying To brian:  "I'd be slightly disappointed that after all the players tried if we're going with guys who have already been there before and there's nothing much new.

It would show a few things
1) there's no new talent available from within
2) Andy is putting it to the lads there to show they can actually do it
3) Some lads might be on their last chances and could be replaced by lads coming from U-21's
4) With a clearer game plan maybe these guys can actually perform
5) He's hoping the U21can go far, get the winning habit and infuse them into the team come championship team and that will be the injection of freshness we require to improve the team

I think Andy will now start showing his hand in terms of a definitive team, game plan and tactics. He's tried out he's pieces and has a better idea of where they will fit on the board.

If i was to hazard a guess for Sunday
I'd say he goes
Hannigan
Curran Keogan McGill
Harnan Power Forde
C O'Brien Menton
O'Sullivan Reilly Kenneally
Wallace O'Coilean Newman

I think come championship time it'll be
Hannigan
Keogan O'Neill McGovern
Harnan Conlan Forde
C O'Brien Menton
O'Sullivan Reilly Newman
Wallace O'Coilean McLoughlin"
Dan O Neill was taken off after 30 mins yesterday for u21s. I really don't see the basis of everyone including him in future teams.
McGovern was cut from the senior panel as far as I'm aware so I doubt he'll be magically back in come championship.
Personally don't think Conlon is an inter county 6.
If people were complaining about Joey Wallace being too small to start then they're going to have a field day if you think McLoughlin will be starting

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 31/01/2017 16:48:20    1950628

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "Dan O Neill was taken off after 30 mins yesterday for u21s. I really don't see the basis of everyone including him in future teams.
McGovern was cut from the senior panel as far as I'm aware so I doubt he'll be magically back in come championship.
Personally don't think Conlon is an inter county 6.
If people were complaining about Joey Wallace being too small to start then they're going to have a field day if you think McLoughlin will be starting"
Dan O'Neill was an injury doubt before the game,I would suggest that is why he was taken off.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 31/01/2017 22:34:27    1950741

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Brian , donnacha Tobin starts every game if fit, simple as

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 891 - 01/02/2017 10:35:53    1950810

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Replying To redser123:  "that's is definitely a fair point, im presuming he was maybe carrying a injury throughout the obyrne cup, my reason for including him is simple enough, in my eyes hes our biggest point and goalscoring threat"
I would dispute that, although I haven't looked back at the stats. His free-taking is erratic, and to my eye he has offered little to nothing from open play since his first season when, in fairness, he was excellent. Seems to have gone backwards since then for whatever reason. But maybe Andy can reinvigorate him.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 01/02/2017 11:48:40    1950831

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if anyone wants to check out the opposition its in eir sport
Down v Fermanagh, Pairc Esler, 7pm - eir Sport

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 01/02/2017 13:19:35    1950863

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I would dispute that, although I haven't looked back at the stats. His free-taking is erratic, and to my eye he has offered little to nothing from open play since his first season when, in fairness, he was excellent. Seems to have gone backwards since then for whatever reason. But maybe Andy can reinvigorate him."
As far as I remember Newmans stats for frees was in and around 65%, not good enough if we are to progress. Has been poor from open play over last two years. But we have not seen him yet under new management, so hopefully they can help get him back to the form of a few years back.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 01/02/2017 14:01:20    1950879

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I would dispute that, although I haven't looked back at the stats. His free-taking is erratic, and to my eye he has offered little to nothing from open play since his first season when, in fairness, he was excellent. Seems to have gone backwards since then for whatever reason. But maybe Andy can reinvigorate him."
To say he's offered nothing from play is just not true, if you look at stats he was our top goalscorer 4 years in a row, and with no disrespect to Kennelly, ruairi ocaoilean or whoever you view as his replacement they are just not on his level, Andy needs to get the best out of Newman if we are to have good year.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 01/02/2017 14:19:28    1950887

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I would dispute that, although I haven't looked back at the stats. His free-taking is erratic, and to my eye he has offered little to nothing from open play since his first season when, in fairness, he was excellent. Seems to have gone backwards since then for whatever reason. But maybe Andy can reinvigorate him."
It's his job to reinvigorate players not just select replacements. Newman has earned another shot I'd say.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 01/02/2017 14:34:00    1950894

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I expect we'll see the team today, and I expect a surprise or two. The teams the past few weeks certainly haven't been as clear cut as an A and B. I read Cian O Neil saying he's been watching us, as you'd expect, as Andy would too so I suspect Andy was showing nowhere near his full hand, also why the Louth game didn't really bother me in the slightest. There will have been players there that day barring a miracle performance were never making Sundays starting 15, and I was nearly more interested in the Saturday game against Donegal in that sense. There's no secrets with your Keoghans and Biggies so he's played them as any league rivals will know their game inside out anyway, and he's shrewd enough to keep a trick or two up his sleeve. There's enough evidence to support this from the teams so far and I think Andy has played it quite clever. On the game itself I'm excited and nervous in equal measure, I have Kildare about on our level right now so can't see much in it, the bookies can't split it either as I expected. I'm hoping home advantage with a noisy Meath crowd and hungry team can swing it our way. We'll know Sunday evening where we're really at, please god it's a positive result to set us up nicely.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 02/02/2017 09:52:56    1951142

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I should probably mention I've no real gra for Kildare, that has some bearing on the nerves! :D

Them years under 'Geezer' were painful for me when they picked up a bit of momentum and got a few over on us, I'm much happier with them on our doorstep at the moment when 90% of their fair weather fans have no interest and are back to supporting Dublin or whatever else it is they do when things aren't as rosy. I'm still thankful for Kevin Cassidy derailing that bandwagon a few years back, special mention to Galway in 98 as well.

Roll on Sunday!

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 02/02/2017 10:34:45    1951161

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Brian Sheridan starts, didn't see that coming, I'm OK with this team but can't lie very worried with the goalkeeper, Harnan and Bryan MacMahon not even on the bench would probably suggest they're carrying a knock, excited for the debutants in particular Shane mcentee and Kennelly who were key players in Andy's Andy's 2012 minors

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 03/02/2017 07:13:02    1951408

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