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Meath vs Kildare 5th February

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "I do think keeping Keoghan at full back is important but, I agree, not many alternatives & we are all clutching at straws a bit. Comes down to our own preferences I suppose. Lets hope Harnan & Tobin get match fit in the meantime."
absolutely.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/01/2017 16:35:42    1948145

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League games in order;

Kildare (Home)
Derry (Home)
Down (Away)
Galway (Home)
Cork (Away)
Fermanagh (Home)
Clare (Away)

So where are the points going to come from? We've got 4 home games this year so we can have no complaints. If I was to have a stab in the dark and give a prediction for each game it would be as follows;

Kildare (Win)
Derry (Loss)
Down (Win)
Galway (Loss)
Cork (Loss)
Fermanagh (Draw)
Clare (Win)

Consolidation is my honest assessment. I don't think we're good enough to get promotion.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 23/01/2017 16:48:11    1948156

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Replying To RoyalClass:  "League games in order;

Kildare (Home)
Derry (Home)
Down (Away)
Galway (Home)
Cork (Away)
Fermanagh (Home)
Clare (Away)

So where are the points going to come from? We've got 4 home games this year so we can have no complaints. If I was to have a stab in the dark and give a prediction for each game it would be as follows;

Kildare (Win)
Derry (Loss)
Down (Win)
Galway (Loss)
Cork (Loss)
Fermanagh (Draw)
Clare (Win)

Consolidation is my honest assessment. I don't think we're good enough to get promotion."
Just out of interest when have Galway became a great side, the majority of this team will have beat a nd drew with them, and this was under mod. And a one off game v Mayo don't count for much when Tipperary hammer you afterwards. Could be wrong because but I count Galway a win and Fermanagh too, that's promotion IMO

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/01/2017 17:51:57    1948178

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Replying To RoyalClass:  "League games in order;

Kildare (Home)
Derry (Home)
Down (Away)
Galway (Home)
Cork (Away)
Fermanagh (Home)
Clare (Away)

So where are the points going to come from? We've got 4 home games this year so we can have no complaints. If I was to have a stab in the dark and give a prediction for each game it would be as follows;

Kildare (Win)
Derry (Loss)
Down (Win)
Galway (Loss)
Cork (Loss)
Fermanagh (Draw)
Clare (Win)

Consolidation is my honest assessment. I don't think we're good enough to get promotion."
I said we would finish 4th and that would be ok imo

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/01/2017 18:23:07    1948183

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Just out of interest when have Galway became a great side, the majority of this team will have beat a nd drew with them, and this was under mod. And a one off game v Mayo don't count for much when Tipperary hammer you afterwards. Could be wrong because but I count Galway a win and Fermanagh too, that's promotion IMO"
I never said Galway are a great side but they beat us last time out and they've improved under Walsh. Its just a flimsy prediction though so don't read too much into it but I think they've a bit more about them then we do.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 23/01/2017 19:09:56    1948194

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Ziggy,
Were you at the game today?

McGill & Menton were very poor. In fact McGill was roasted in several games last year and exposed again today. Yet you continue to pick him at full back. I will admit that there is a sliver of a case for menton as he uses his physical presence well even when he is starved of the ball (like today) and hopefully he will come good at midfield. Personally I wouldn't be putting my house on it after watching him in the county final last year."
In Mc Gills defense, wasn't Mc playing against Donegal in a challenge on Saturday ? surely he wasn't right for Sunday's game.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 23/01/2017 19:16:09    1948198

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "In Mc Gills defense, wasn't Mc playing against Donegal in a challenge on Saturday ? surely he wasn't right for Sunday's game."
He was caught out once or twice last year but I still think he's our best option.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 23/01/2017 20:49:36    1948227

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Promotion is far from certain but no reason we cannot win our home games and pick up a point or two on the road.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 23/01/2017 21:01:10    1948235

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Replying To Barney123:  "He was caught out once or twice last year but I still think he's our best option."
A hand injury curtailed his progress last year, hopefully he get a clear run this time. We dont have many options in this area

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 23/01/2017 21:06:41    1948238

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I'd hope we have at least 8 league points by the time we go down to Clare. That is what we should be aiming for with four (winnable) home games. Lets hope any off days and points dropped can be regained away along the way. Of course nothing goes to plan in NFL2.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 23/01/2017 21:11:58    1948241

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Regarding Conor McGill..

When he played U21 I thought he looked good.He also had a good first year with Meath.Last year he had a lot of injury problems and could never get a run in the team. MOD put him into the team after he was months out for our first league game v Armagh.It was clear he had lost a bit of confidence with comes with constant injury and lack of games.
He played against Donegal on Saturday and then came in on Sunday so give him a break lads..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/01/2017 21:13:19    1948242

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Lets hope Corofin beat Dr Crokes in Club semi final so that they are not available to Galway when we play them on March 5th which will improve our chances of getting a home win !!

Royal_Rover (Meath) - Posts: 72 - 23/01/2017 21:13:41    1948243

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Alan Forde should be available for Kildare game, different competition.

Royalreddevil (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 23/01/2017 21:20:25    1948245

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Replying To RoyalClass:  "League games in order;

Kildare (Home)
Derry (Home)
Down (Away)
Galway (Home)
Cork (Away)
Fermanagh (Home)
Clare (Away)

So where are the points going to come from? We've got 4 home games this year so we can have no complaints. If I was to have a stab in the dark and give a prediction for each game it would be as follows;

Kildare (Win)
Derry (Loss)
Down (Win)
Galway (Loss)
Cork (Loss)
Fermanagh (Draw)
Clare (Win)

Consolidation is my honest assessment. I don't think we're good enough to get promotion."
Way I see it we are capable of beating any of those teams or losing to any of them. Will prob drop unexpected points and pick up unexpeted points.

Royalreddevil (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 23/01/2017 21:26:37    1948246

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Ziggy,
Were you at the game today?

McGill & Menton were very poor. In fact McGill was roasted in several games last year and exposed again today. Yet you continue to pick him at full back. I will admit that there is a sliver of a case for menton as he uses his physical presence well even when he is starved of the ball (like today) and hopefully he will come good at midfield. Personally I wouldn't be putting my house on it after watching him in the county final last year."
Fully agree, it seems just because McGill is the only player who actually is a full back that people think he should start there.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 23/01/2017 21:34:01    1948250

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As for full back what about dan O'Neill hes young and a physical presence ,but I can see keoghan getting played here as experience counts

loyalroyal15 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 23/01/2017 21:42:31    1948256

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Replying To seadog54:  "Promotion is far from certain but no reason we cannot win our home games and pick up a point or two on the road."
Thought Colm O Rourke's article in the Indo recently has some merit. He says perhaps some counties spending large sums of money on their senior team training programme need to think again . Any county who have no chance of SAM for many years fit the bill here, Hate to admit it but if no progress this year, then we withraw from Senior Championship on a temporary basis at least. That money could be used more wiselly elsewhere. I wonder is it a sin to think like that in Meath?

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 23/01/2017 21:48:20    1948259

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A sin? Think some of the lads on here would favour execution without trial, but seriously pulling out of championship to save a few bob? Would mean death of football within county. Cannot see how that option would improve football in any county. How much did Meath spend on preparation of team last year?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 23/01/2017 22:04:31    1948262

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Every county outside of division one should put the league (not championship) as their prime focus for the season. At least you know you have seven games for sure and against teams of a similar enough standard. Be the best you can be in the league (to improve/progress in real terms) and let the championship take care of itself later on.

We do need the senior team to be high profile (and somewhat successful) to help keep as many youngsters interested in the game as possible. Not lose more and more of them to other sports. But yes, monies should be apportioned where they are most productive in the medium to longer term.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 23/01/2017 23:10:30    1948272

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Replying To nobull456:  "Thought Colm O Rourke's article in the Indo recently has some merit. He says perhaps some counties spending large sums of money on their senior team training programme need to think again . Any county who have no chance of SAM for many years fit the bill here, Hate to admit it but if no progress this year, then we withraw from Senior Championship on a temporary basis at least. That money could be used more wiselly elsewhere. I wonder is it a sin to think like that in Meath?"
Is this a serious suggestion! Honestly..
Yeah sure we will pack it in so!! Honestly is this a joke ?? What do u say to that

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 23/01/2017 23:16:17    1948273

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