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The Fridge Yep,crying out for him.You see workrate and believe in those players today and they have been underdogs most of the season.. Meath need him badly he also worked with some of the current Meath team who got to the minor final a few years ago. You could see today what they were trying to do,haven't seen much of that under MOD.Whatver Meaths best is,will get it surely thats all anyone can ask? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/03/2016 17:54:44 1835638 Link
Surprised at the lack of comment/criticism ( posters excluded) from former players, delegates, local media etc. as to our current state. Seems to be no interest in what is happening, expected more reaction, would a situation like this be acceptable in other counties? seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 17/03/2016 19:05:18 1835657 Link
Surprised at the lack of comment/criticism ( posters excluded) from former players, delegates, local media etc ________________ How many former Skryne players are involved with media?Colm O'rourke does his bit for the irish independent ..Trevor Giles also does a bit for irish examiner...then there is Liam Hayes Irish Daily Mail columnists ,it would be a very miserably night out in the Swans if they said anything .. He who speaks the truth should have one foot firmly in the stirrup! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 17/03/2016 19:46:36 1835668 Link
The fridge. The one and same. Unfortunately was treated very badly by current CB, after bringing minors to all ire final the previous year, some say because of his connection to a certain political party was the main reason as people involved in another party are very high up in CB, I dont know what truth is . But bb are only 5th favourite to win Dublin county championship this year so that shows how bloody good of a manager he is. We want him, we need him , so time for CB to leave politics out of sport (if that is reason) and make the call. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2016 12:53:29 1835771 Link
The nepotism and highjinks in Meath football is a joke. How do we fix it? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 18/03/2016 16:33:41 1835819 Link
Cheers folks. I liked his interview before the game......seemed cool and calm, like a man who knew his team were very well prepared. Hope he gets his chance to take Meath....clearly the best man for the job if MOD doesn't turn things around. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/03/2016 19:45:35 1835846 Link
The-fridge - one thing that is held against him by many meath people is that when he brought the meath minor team to an all-Ireland final, he changed the team game plan to an ultra-defensive one for the final against the dubs. Some hold the view that he had given up on winning before the game even started and was just aiming to keep the score down. It's not a view I personally share, but it has been mentioned on here previously. My own opinion is that he saw the team being comprehensively beaten by a better Dublin side in the Leinster final, and realised that if they went toe to toe with them in the all-Ireland, the same thing would happen again. The only chance of beating them was to keep things tight, try to nick scores up the other end, and hope that the young Dublin players would panic a bit if they weren't getting everything there own way. It didn't work on the day , but to me it was a perfectly reasonable plan, and showed a willingness to be flexible and introduce new ideas to a squad, which seems sorely lacking at present. But as I said, it was seen by some as a craven capitulation to the dubs, which as I'm sure you know, doesn't go down too well around these parts. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 18/03/2016 21:46:35 1835890 Link
seadog54 Yep there is a lack of former players / local media baying for MODs blood. Personally while not happy with the MOD. I am proud that by and large we try to keep things in house. MOD not trying to sell papers and is a genuine man doing his best for his county. And I begrudging agree with with local media not battering him. Why ? because I don't want future mangers that want to grasp the nettle, been put off by pressure of people willing to criticize and kick an man when he is down which happens all to often in other counties and is actually a major problem in some. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 19/03/2016 09:23:44 1835898 Link
In an ideal world of course your right!. However, when it is clear that over a 3 year period we are going backwards it is time to say enough is enough. It is fair to say i have never read anything critical of MOD as a person,in fact the opposite "nice mild mannered man etc.etc." The complaints are ALWAYS about his deficiencies as a manager. In my view that is ok! The point about locally and keeping it local,we play on a national stage. All GAA followers know the score now anyway What is amazing however is how CB appear to allow things continue without any apparent remedial action. There is a suggestion somewhere on this forum that maybe politics have priority over the good of Meath foofball..I do not know. What i do know is if that is true it is time to abandon ship. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1226 - 19/03/2016 10:21:06 1835904 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Unlike what Meath CB did when the stifled any objections to this ludicrous reapportionment, I will not be silenced by a few (very small minority) who want this charade to continue To answer afearbegs question the reality check forum is based around players abilities this one is based around mods abilities or lack of as is plainly obvious. And who should we be looking at to try and reverse the decline of team in last 4 years." um not very good Mr dunne for meath football (just found that and there is loads more to refresh your memory Mr dunne) meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 23/07/2017 21:21:28 2022058 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Unlike what Meath CB did when the stifled any objections to this ludicrous reapportionment, I will not be silenced by a few (very small minority) who want this charade to continue To answer afearbegs question the reality check forum is based around players abilities this one is based around mods abilities or lack of as is plainly obvious. And who should we be looking at to try and reverse the decline of team in last 4 years." this is from March 2016 from Mr dunne today he is saying people on here has agendas against mangers. People make up your own mind on this meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 23/07/2017 22:02:31 2022088 Link
Replying To meath1977: "this is from March 2016 from Mr dunne today he is saying people on here has agendas against mangers. People make up your own mind on this" Who would be your choice if mcentee goes?? And be realistic.....no silly answers like Jimmy mcguinness or James horan. I think you'll seriously struggle to come up with one realistic alternative........mcentee has been actively managing meath for 10 months........hard to believe some people are of thinking of anybody else at this stage let alone typing it out on a forum. Ah yea the best thing for meath football is change managers every year......mcentee should be given as long as he wants. He's not blessed with an outstanding group of players don't forget. In time he will get the best out of them tho southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 25/07/2017 07:17:40 2022952 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "Who would be your choice if mcentee goes?? And be realistic.....no silly answers like Jimmy mcguinness or James horan. I think you'll seriously struggle to come up with one realistic alternative........mcentee has been actively managing meath for 10 months........hard to believe some people are of thinking of anybody else at this stage let alone typing it out on a forum. Ah yea the best thing for meath football is change managers every year......mcentee should be given as long as he wants. He's not blessed with an outstanding group of players don't forget. In time he will get the best out of them tho" you need to start reading posts right if you can. people on here thinks meath have improved I don't believe we have. my point it Andy needs to get more out of meath next year or the pressure will come on. this is meath . we need to be a top eight team every year . nobody is looking for the man head this year but the way you and others are talking give him five years. football is all about result you live and die by them Andy knows that. I want Andy to succeed as any one but there is a few on here would rather just to be proved right as they have this micko thing going on. I don't care about that $ but I am not happy if we are still losing games we should be winning like the Donegal game meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 25/07/2017 09:43:05 2023001 Link
Replying To meath1977: "you need to start reading posts right if you can. people on here thinks meath have improved I don't believe we have. my point it Andy needs to get more out of meath next year or the pressure will come on. this is meath . we need to be a top eight team every year . nobody is looking for the man head this year but the way you and others are talking give him five years. football is all about result you live and die by them Andy knows that. I want Andy to succeed as any one but there is a few on here would rather just to be proved right as they have this micko thing going on. I don't care about that $ but I am not happy if we are still losing games we should be winning like the Donegal game" We've not improved? For one we're not getting hosed in games when we were leading by a cricket score at half-time. The team looks fitter and granted there have been tactical and individual errors, but as someone else said he's 10 months in the job, he deserves time to iron those out. MOD got long enough and failed. No shame in that, he gave it his best. I think Andy Mac is the best man for the job for the foreseeable future, especially with what looks like a decent crop of youngsters coming through and a couple from the Minors who could make a real contribution. GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 25/07/2017 11:44:27 2023092 Link
We have improved fitness wise but that will only get you so far. We have one forward on the team capable of scoring more then 3 points in a game and he disappears in the big games as he isn't a world beater . Our backs are so weak we have to pull everyone back to help them out and we still got steam rolled. Having the two goalkeepers on the panel were a big mistake and was not very nice to all genuine goalies in the county. like I said fitness has improved but this is a very weak Meath team. We just don't have the players anymore simple as . Mick O tried his best but we all know what happened there. Andy will have them fit and trying that's all we can do. SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 25/07/2017 11:52:34 2023098 Link
Replying To SheridansTry: "We have improved fitness wise but that will only get you so far. We have one forward on the team capable of scoring more then 3 points in a game and he disappears in the big games as he isn't a world beater . Our backs are so weak we have to pull everyone back to help them out and we still got steam rolled. Having the two goalkeepers on the panel were a big mistake and was not very nice to all genuine goalies in the county. like I said fitness has improved but this is a very weak Meath team. We just don't have the players anymore simple as . Mick O tried his best but we all know what happened there. Andy will have them fit and trying that's all we can do." Agree with a lot of what you say especially the point about goalies. I think POR needs some genuine competition (no harm but not Joe) and they should maybe be given a run next season to show their worth. That said I'm sure someone on here posted that one of the keepers chosen to be part of the panel at the start of the year pulled out because he couldn't commit. Might be wrong but I'm sure I read it. As for the players, I don't think I'd be as downbeat as you are. Losing Forde was a blow, but Jones and Conlon coming on showed that there are excellent players coming through (albeit I know one if heading to the US) and the U17s give cause for hope. Rooney coming back into the panel would be a boost and Kennelly from the Minors is maybe worth a shot in midfield. Would also allow Menton to play elsewhere. In any case, a good manager can consistently get the most out of the players they have at their disposal, otherwise you wouldn't have Ireland beating Germany or Celtic beating Barcelona for example. GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 25/07/2017 12:39:54 2023146 Link
Replying To meath1977: "um not very good Mr dunne for meath football (just found that and there is loads more to refresh your memory Mr dunne)" Can you actually read? I was speaking of the REAPPOINTMENT, after the 3 years and our defeat to Westmeath, this is exactly what I said previously. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/07/2017 18:35:36 2023409 Link
Replying To SheridansTry: "We have improved fitness wise but that will only get you so far. We have one forward on the team capable of scoring more then 3 points in a game and he disappears in the big games as he isn't a world beater . Our backs are so weak we have to pull everyone back to help them out and we still got steam rolled. Having the two goalkeepers on the panel were a big mistake and was not very nice to all genuine goalies in the county. like I said fitness has improved but this is a very weak Meath team. We just don't have the players anymore simple as . Mick O tried his best but we all know what happened there. Andy will have them fit and trying that's all we can do." Sheridans try............I have to agree with your assesment.....very weak team . We need at least 7 new players with intercounty potential. Frustrating to see player like Jones not available for example ....looked a good prospect. Understandable career comes first now. I often wonder can our CB do any more to keep these lads.I know for a fact {from another life} a couple of other counties are very pro active on this front. As you say Andy will have players fit and trying . Coupled with the shortage of suitable players Andy himself is on a learning curve,and has to be given his full term.. I am at a loss to understand how we have deteriorated in the basic skill of fielding the high ball for example in Meath. There will be those that will say "ah the game has changed "etc. No , look how Dublin defenders appear weak under the high ball STILL. {even against Kildare}. I suggest if our goalkeeper could have reasonable confidence that his long high kickout had a good chance of being fielded by one of our own ,and thus fully exploit the mark even.....then hopefully he would have less errors. Long distance high kickout is an option rather than the gospel here. You mentioned forwards. Well the biggest problem i have with our forwards is their lack of movement.by making themselves available for a pass. Out in front like Stephen Bray did for example. In fact i cannot see any current forward leading by doing this. I see players running up cul de sacs all right with no support often .I refuse to accept that this is just a negative assesment. I prefer to use the words concern, frustration,and impatience . No doubt it all means a long road ahead. Patience is indeed a virtue. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1226 - 25/07/2017 21:25:38 2023489 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Can you actually read? I was speaking of the REAPPOINTMENT, after the 3 years and our defeat to Westmeath, this is exactly what I said previously." you had the cheek to talk about agendas when you were the one with the agenda against o dowd meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 25/07/2017 22:15:36 2023519 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Sheridans try............I have to agree with your assesment.....very weak team . We need at least 7 new players with intercounty potential. Frustrating to see player like Jones not available for example ....looked a good prospect. Understandable career comes first now. I often wonder can our CB do any more to keep these lads.I know for a fact {from another life} a couple of other counties are very pro active on this front. As you say Andy will have players fit and trying . Coupled with the shortage of suitable players Andy himself is on a learning curve,and has to be given his full term.. I am at a loss to understand how we have deteriorated in the basic skill of fielding the high ball for example in Meath. There will be those that will say "ah the game has changed "etc. No , look how Dublin defenders appear weak under the high ball STILL. {even against Kildare}. I suggest if our goalkeeper could have reasonable confidence that his long high kickout had a good chance of being fielded by one of our own ,and thus fully exploit the mark even.....then hopefully he would have less errors. Long distance high kickout is an option rather than the gospel here. You mentioned forwards. Well the biggest problem i have with our forwards is their lack of movement.by making themselves available for a pass. Out in front like Stephen Bray did for example. In fact i cannot see any current forward leading by doing this. I see players running up cul de sacs all right with no support often .I refuse to accept that this is just a negative assesment. I prefer to use the words concern, frustration,and impatience . No doubt it all means a long road ahead. Patience is indeed a virtue." Some very good points made. High fielding is slowly coming back into the game however it now seems as though the half back lines are more involved in fielding their own ball. The best teams in the country always have at least one or two attackers/sweeper ready to receive the ball off the shoulder. Agree with appraisal of Bray. What he had also was near perfect balance and poise on the ball. Something which each of our forwards are lacking in abundance. ClonardGael (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 26/07/2017 01:28:04 2023606 Link