Mowbar: It might be best if you stopped commenting on things you know little about. You are embarrasing !!

Kevin Downes I hear is a brilliant coach and along with Liam McHale we now have the right people at the helm. Terry you chose very wisely and I am really optimistic for next year and getting excited already. I think the emphasis will be far more on attack rather than the outdated blanket defence which was only bringing us backwards. With all these young players the future does truly look blue !!

Brownred (Cavan) - Posts: 229 - 13/10/2014 15:29:55    1663215

Best of luck to all involved hopefully the new members of the management team will bring fresh new ideas to the table and help us push on in 2015

Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 14/10/2014 12:30:25    1663476

This looks like a great move by the county board . Best of luck to all involved and hopefully it works out .The time is right for more aggressive attacking and really looking forward to next year now to see where this takes us .

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 14/10/2014 13:16:02    1663502

Interesting appointments. I used to play against Kevin but know little about his coaching credentials. McHale has been a top sportsman in both GAA and Basketball and should have an interesting input into systems and styles of play. Good luck to them all and hope that we can see an improvement on this years championship campaign.

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 15/10/2014 14:03:25    1663933

Best of luck to Terry and his back room team, welcome to new personnel. Something went awol last season around the time we secured promotion to div. 2. It would be great if the confidence and impetus of winning could be reignited. Cavan have some great players of the game, a large, fanatical yet realistic crowd of supporters. I believe the gap between the very top teams and Cavan can be closed with the right application of management and players and of course a real belief in themselves.The time is not near....the time is here.

realisticpaddy (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 15/10/2014 14:55:53    1663959

I'm very happy with the arrival of Liam McHale and I'd commend Terry for stating openly that he wanted to change the style of play and move things on.
I'm already looking forward to the league and even if it takes more than 1 year to get things right I'd rather watch our lads playing good fast football than endure another year of the other stuff.

I'd hope to see a few new faces make a claim for a place on the team.

RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 15/10/2014 17:48:27    1664053

I also welcome Liam McHale to the Cavan setup. Whatever events led to his arrival, he's here now and he represents a very fresh and experienced voice. What makes his involvement all the more beneficial to us is that he really needs to achieve success as a coach and improve his CV. This is a crucial opportunity for him. He will know that a well done job in Cavan will propel him forward in terms of his coaching / managerial career. The opposite is also the case and I'm sure that he will be very motivated.

Hopefully Terry will carry through now on his new style of play statement and move us out of this stalled state. We are going through a decent club championship with a lot of good attacking football. The players are there, and for us to make progress, they need to be allowed to express their creativity. I look forward to Cavan continuing to have a stubborn defence, but now having an attacking edge to our game. Creating overlaps, driving forward and supporting the early ball. I hope we never again see the horrible sight of our players arriving at the opposition half back line and retreating.

ondforty (Cavan) - Posts: 460 - 16/10/2014 14:51:29    1664292

How is it that Terry is going into his 3rd year as a manager and probably 6 years overall with most of these from u21 level back in 2010 , yet he hasn't worked out any attacking style of play yet? He working with lots of these lads since 2010 ? Where are we really going under Terry Hyland I ask? Our claim to fame under terry in Ulster was a win against Armagh who reversed that this year. An away win in the qualifiers against Derry a feat that even Longford achieved. .

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 16/10/2014 15:33:36    1664318

Did you miss the bit where Liam McHale is coming into bring a more attacking philosophy?

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 16/10/2014 16:09:40    1664337

Liam MCHales last inter county coaching job was with Clare. St Bridget's in Roscommon were winning Connacht club titles long before Liam McHale went there. I fail to see how Terry Hyland is so long involved with these players and has no attacking system in place or near being in place. It seems like we have decided to try something new this year and attack and Liam McHale has been nominated as the saviour. His job description is " player performance coach" . What does that mean? Isn't every manager a "player performance coach" . I hope this management aren't making things up as they go along like previous managements.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 16/10/2014 16:46:58    1664360

You're citing 6 years work of Terry Hyland and then say his claim to fame is a championship win over Armagh and Derry . For god sake this is getting ridiculous!!!! Just ignore the 2 U21 Ulster Championships , 1 All Ireland U21 final appearance , promotion from Division 3 , 2 Leinster Junior Championships , 1 All Ireland Junior Championship , 2 senior championship appearances in Croke Park (first time ever for new Croke Park) including an All Ireland Quarter Final . If you're laying our attacking philosophy across the board at his feet why not throw in 4 Ulster U21 Championships in a row as well . Fair is fair now Dirtybag , I'm not saying Terry is the second coming but we could do a hell of a lot worse and are extremely lucky to have a man like that involved with us . Really low spiteful remarks there , idiotic I would say .

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 16/10/2014 16:48:59    1664362

People should get themselves better informed before posting rubbish.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 16/10/2014 17:26:17    1664376

kevin downes has a huge football pedigree. Eyeball

eyeball (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 16/10/2014 17:31:33    1664377

dirtybag
County: Cavan
Posts: 132

I'm afraid you are another of the great hurlers on the ditch who can only see negativity. I wont start spelling out all Terrys achievements or Liam Mc Hale's either. But they are plain for everyone to see. Yes we had a bad year last year but I think that day in Portlaoise at the All Irl Junior final Terry saw what a change in attacking style can bring us. Peter Donnelly did a great job getting us defensively strong and hard to break down but that will only get you so far.
These young players are ready to step up now and Terry and Liam will get them there. I'm sure there will be a good few additions to the squad like Tom Hayes,Ciaran Brady, Enda Hessin, Morris from Arva and Barry Reilly.
I think you might have your own agenda Dirtybag !!!

Brownred (Cavan) - Posts: 229 - 16/10/2014 17:48:11    1664383

Nobody is questioning what Terry did at u21 level. He's in his 3rd year as Senior Team Manager and we have no attacking philosophy as of yet. Now that fact whatever way u wish to dress it up.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 16/10/2014 17:49:30    1664384

Browned. Your on about adding 5 more players to the squad. Does that mean your not happy with the squad that was there last year? Your mentioning additions from junior and intermediate clubs but very few from Senior clubs why? Who would you drop off last years panel to facilitate the players you mentioned? Maybe you could directly answer these questions before your next dig!

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 16/10/2014 18:14:21    1664394

When you come out with statements like claim to fame and are making reference to 6 years it most certainly does look like you're questioning everything he has done .
Regarding attacking philosophy , here's the facts . We got to an All Ireland Senior quarter final last year . Teams do not go this far in the championship if they do not attack . We won promotion this year from Division 3 winning 7 games in a row . Teams do not do this in senior competitive football if they do not attack . We won a Junior All Ireland this year . Teams do not win cups if they do not attack . I am not saying he is an attacking genius and acknowledge we have a lot of problems in attack but this is NOT solely down to the fact that he "decides" for us not to attack . You cut your coat to suit your cloth and we have better defenders that attackers . Also defence was our Achilles Heel for years when he came on the scene and urgently needed addressing . We hold onto the ball too much I admit but this is as much down to our attack inside as it is down to instructions from the line . No point letting the ball in if it's not going to be won . Against a lower playing field in underage and junior we have no problems attacking so it's not our philosophy . Against better quality defences in senior championship our weaknesses in personnel are magnified .
He can take some of the blame for this , I think he's stuck too stubbornly to team selection in attack when it clearly doesn't work at this higher level but it's not a rod I would beat him too badly with and over all I think he has been absolutely fantastic for us and cannot understand the knives that are out for him . It's pathetic .
With ever year and more young players coming through then hopefully our options up front will increase and we will see a marked improvement in attacking . Finally regarding McHale , he won an All Ireland club with St Brigid's . To down play this is disingenuous .

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 16/10/2014 18:27:51    1664402

Browned.. The only Senior player you mention in your additions is Barry Reilly. He scored 0-14 in 2 games 0-12 which was from frees. Declan Meehan scored 2-6 in 2 games most from play but you fail to mention his name. You fail to mention SJ who scored 1-14 in 2 games and 1-7 of that from play. But your saying Cootehills top scores is good enough. Maybe he is but so are the 2 I've mentioned . Have you also your own agenda? Seems so.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 16/10/2014 18:36:51    1664405

I don't like this "no Attacking option" as if we need to disband this defensive system and go all out attack. If you do that then the system will fall apart. You can't have guys train in one system and then flick a switch to another system, thats a recipe for disaster. The first year Donegal went defensive it didn't really work out and McGuiness even admitted it himself that they weren't getting enough scores to win the big games and I think we are in the same boat. Not saying that we are going to win an All-Ireland but we too need to tweak our system and be a little more positive.

The new guys are welcome and i hope this is what they bring to the mix...

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 541 - 17/10/2014 10:49:25    1664597

Hardtimes....Donegal won an All-Ireland without attacking..!

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1687 - 17/10/2014 11:05:34    1664600