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100% a free at the end Jason Whelan pulled the Donegal players jersey.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/02/2017 21:20:01    1961295

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Delighted with the point in the end having conceded those two howlers but God knows how a free was given at the end. Great to see the young Dubs like McHugh, Scully, Lowndes and Carthy getting run outs. I thought Kilkenny was great today, Fenton in patches and Murphy was the engine behind Donegal, especially in the first. The unbeaten run continues, but just about. Mayo could have a big say on how long it is to continue next Sat.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/02/2017 21:24:10    1961300

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Wayne it happened right where I was sitting the linesman told the ref there was a push. I just thought the linesman job was to flag which way the ball went and that's it apart from off the ball stuff the ref doesn't see?"
fair enough pal, not doubting you, just telling you what I felt from my position :)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 21:25:30    1961307

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Haha your a terrace man I sit in the stand it happened right in front of me pal I think I'd the better view.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/02/2017 21:43:22    1961320

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Replying To Gael85:  "Hopefully players wont players crown jewels wont be squeezed while he held in a headlock."
Keep practicing your grammar, you have a bit to go but we almost know what you are talking about.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/02/2017 22:40:23    1961347

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I thought the game was extremely enjoyable and very watchable. The conditions were horrendous at times but I would gladly have paid in to watch the match just for the performances of Brian Fenton and Michael Murphy alone; two extremely good footballers. Fenton especially is a tremendous player, he reminds me a bit of the great Cormac McAnallen.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 26/02/2017 23:18:04    1961364

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Hi
Donegal came ever so close to ending Dublin's long unbeaten run but at the final whistle had to settle for a draw in Sunday's Allianz FL Division 1 clash in Ballybofey.

For Donegal, this could well be a vital point going forward. Perhaps more importantly, they will take great confidence from their performance having matched the Dubs with a display oozing with effort and commitment.

The visitors were the better side for much of the first half but it was Donegal who were in front at half time by 2-02 to 0-05, after they struck two goals within 40 seconds just before the break.

Significantly, the hosts managed only three points in the second half, but they were still enough to hold on for a point as they drew level a minute into injury time when Michael Murphy pointed from a free.

Dublin bossed possession for almost the entire first half and despite conceding a point to Jason McGee after 35 seconds, they were well in control.

Shane Carthy drew them level with a well taken point on three minutes and they eventually moved in front on 16 with a converted Dean Rock free.

Donegal defended deep and in numbers and while Jim Gavin's men were pedestrian in their build-ups, they still carried a real threat in front of goal.

A Ciaran Kilkenny point made it 0-03 to 0-01 by the 20th minute and Conor McHugh followed that up with another point after Eoghan O'Gara created the opening.

Donegal, for all their hard work, were really struggling to create any opportunities coming forward and the absence of the injured Patrick McBrearty certainly had an effect.

By the 25th minute, the reigning Division 1 champions had stretched their lead out to four points, 0-05 to 0-01 and given their possession, they should have been further ahead.

A free from Ciaran Thompson reduced the arrears before the game turned on its head in a period of 35 crazy seconds. Donegal pounced for their first goal when McGee, at the second attempt, squeezed the ball in under Stephen Cluxton.

vvvishalll (UK) - Posts: 2 - 27/02/2017 04:18:43    1961398

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Donegal are dreadful so far, giving the ball away every time. On the evidence so far the Dubs could win this by 10+."
nice prediction

ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 27/02/2017 09:03:17    1961419

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Replying To vvvishalll:  "Hi
Donegal came ever so close to ending Dublin's long unbeaten run but at the final whistle had to settle for a draw in Sunday's Allianz FL Division 1 clash in Ballybofey.

For Donegal, this could well be a vital point going forward. Perhaps more importantly, they will take great confidence from their performance having matched the Dubs with a display oozing with effort and commitment.

The visitors were the better side for much of the first half but it was Donegal who were in front at half time by 2-02 to 0-05, after they struck two goals within 40 seconds just before the break.

Significantly, the hosts managed only three points in the second half, but they were still enough to hold on for a point as they drew level a minute into injury time when Michael Murphy pointed from a free.

Dublin bossed possession for almost the entire first half and despite conceding a point to Jason McGee after 35 seconds, they were well in control.

Shane Carthy drew them level with a well taken point on three minutes and they eventually moved in front on 16 with a converted Dean Rock free.

Donegal defended deep and in numbers and while Jim Gavin's men were pedestrian in their build-ups, they still carried a real threat in front of goal.

A Ciaran Kilkenny point made it 0-03 to 0-01 by the 20th minute and Conor McHugh followed that up with another point after Eoghan O'Gara created the opening.

Donegal, for all their hard work, were really struggling to create any opportunities coming forward and the absence of the injured Patrick McBrearty certainly had an effect.

By the 25th minute, the reigning Division 1 champions had stretched their lead out to four points, 0-05 to 0-01 and given their possession, they should have been further ahead.

A free from Ciaran Thompson reduced the arrears before the game turned on its head in a period of 35 crazy seconds. Donegal pounced for their first goal when McGee, at the second attempt, squeezed the ball in under Stephen Cluxton."
thanks for that frank roche

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 27/02/2017 10:28:31    1961470

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It certainly wasn't a day for nice, fancy football but it was an enjoyable enough match all the same. I think it was great in terms of character building for our younger lads. When Dublin went a point or two up near the end and had thrown on the likes of Flynn, McManamon and McAuley I feared the worst. But fair play to our boys, they dug out a deserved draw and maybe could even have nicked the win if we'd been a wee bit more ambitious in the closing seconds. Next weekend's fixture in Cavan is crucial. If we win that I think we'll be safe enough.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9143 - 27/02/2017 10:31:51    1961472

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Not a classic by any means but management on both teams will be very happy. Exactly what Dublin want. Second game in a row to get a physically challenging game with tough organised defences that went right to the final whistle. Much more beneficial than a Sunday stroll.

Likewise for Donegal. As with Tyrone, can work on how they allowed a very decent lead to slip. Showed good character to come back themselves.

Not bad at all for a February tussle.

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 27/02/2017 12:21:39    1961536

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "How am I bring biased?
Yeah dublin walked into it with a bit of Kerry 2014 tactic of at times fighting fire with fire and this probably was enevitable when we only selected one team scoring forward and he even had an off day with the boot.
but man Donegal scored their first point after about thirty seconds and went what must have been a half hour before they got gifted a free from eoghan o gara and then got a square ball goal followed by another goal in thirty seconds
the entire first half felt like they were defending that 1 point after thirty seconds haha.
plus you can't honestly tell me you enjoy the reluctance to kick the ball?
I doubt in that first half Donegal kicked passed more than five times it was that bad.
Result wise of course your delighted but hand in heart I can't imagine you enjoyed the football game as it was appalling stuff to watch.
dublin played their hand in too as i say with not selecting a better forward line but dublin don't set out to play the way they did at times today they adapt to the opposition and today playing a bit like Kerry in 2014 final clearly was a bad idea as it limited us. Albeit the first goal should have been disallowed for square ball and last free was anyone's guess what he decided to award it for."
Dublin had one or two questionable frees themselves but I will admit the last free we got wasn't a free. No qualms on that.

I thoroughly enjoyed the game. It was right and tense. It was a terrible day for football; in fact the Tyrone game was postponed in Omagh just up the road so that tells you conditions were bad. I'm abroad and watched it on TG4 stream, my heart was racing right till the end. Not only because it was Donegal playing, but because the game was tight. For many a summer now, I have turned off the tv when Leinster 'championship' comes on, because Dublin have zero opposition. I usually turn off after 20 minutes after initially praying for an actual contest. It's the hope that kills a man. Donegal's style down the years has always included a lot of hand passing, that's a traditional style we have so its nothing new and no, I'm not up in arms about it. Nor was I downhearted by it. I have issues at times with the current set up but that wouldn't really be among them. With a mountain of young lads from U21 in that team, I was more than satisfied with yesterday.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 27/02/2017 12:35:00    1961547

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Replying To poguemahone:  "Not a classic by any means but management on both teams will be very happy. Exactly what Dublin want. Second game in a row to get a physically challenging game with tough organised defences that went right to the final whistle. Much more beneficial than a Sunday stroll.

Likewise for Donegal. As with Tyrone, can work on how they allowed a very decent lead to slip. Showed good character to come back themselves.

Not bad at all for a February tussle."
Good post. I agree with it all. I don't get the posts labeling this a terrible game etc. I found it very enjoyable throughout. It did look like Dublin would win pulling up until the goals. The goals were no surprise to anybody who watched Donegal's first 2 games as they have created a hat full of goal opportunities but either poor shooting or decision meant the only goal Donegal had to show for was the pen against Kerry.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 27/02/2017 12:51:25    1961561

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Thought it was a decent game considering the conditions, Donegal had a chance to win at the end. Lost confidence in themselves it seemed.
Both teams played the muck as best they could!

offtheboat (USA) - Posts: 57 - 27/02/2017 13:41:14    1961592

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Replying To panamasam:  "Good post. I agree with it all. I don't get the posts labeling this a terrible game etc. I found it very enjoyable throughout. It did look like Dublin would win pulling up until the goals. The goals were no surprise to anybody who watched Donegal's first 2 games as they have created a hat full of goal opportunities but either poor shooting or decision meant the only goal Donegal had to show for was the pen against Kerry."
Anyone not going toe to toe with Dublin will need a couple of goals to beat them so Donegal right to go for them when the chances came. Role on Murphy is pivotal to their chances. Personally would push him forward more but not as a lone FF as he would be too limited over 70 minutes. Yesterday not really sure of his role as he got surrounded by Dublin players fairly quickly.

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 27/02/2017 15:19:03    1961644

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Award for the worst free ever given at the end of the game to Donegal to level it lol. From what i could see there was zero contact on the player, but a draw was probably a fair result. Fair play to Donegal for sticking with the dubs given they had a very inexperienced team out.

Happy to see the dubs hold on to their unbeaten record though as it will be a great pleasure to end it in killarney in a few weeks time.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 27/02/2017 15:38:50    1961659

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Replying To poguemahone:  "Anyone not going toe to toe with Dublin will need a couple of goals to beat them so Donegal right to go for them when the chances came. Role on Murphy is pivotal to their chances. Personally would push him forward more but not as a lone FF as he would be too limited over 70 minutes. Yesterday not really sure of his role as he got surrounded by Dublin players fairly quickly."
A point was made by Donegalman on this thread or another in relation to MM and his is spot on. When Michael plays inside he just gets smothered with double or triple marking added with alot of off the ball stuff making it difficult for him to have an effect. When Michael gets the ball and is running at teams he is impossible to stop unless you foul him. I guess the masters of cynicism (and I don't mean Dublin or Tyrone) will always make sure to foul him far enough out to make sure there is no gimme free knowing the refs won't overly punish them. For now he is going to be stationed further out while the younger lads continue to develop. I imagine in 2 or 3 years time he will revert as I think Donegal will be strong in midfield with the young lads coming through. What Donegal need is inside forwards especially likely to be out the field. As it stands it makes us a bit one dimensional in how we play especially when attacking. Saying that cannot be anything with pleased with how things are going. I for one was pretty adamant that Jason McGee was not ready for senior football just yet but I am very happy to be proven very wrong in this regard. Only 18 fresh out of minor level, what a player this guy can be. Shame we did not see him on AI final day last September in the minor decider as despite the result against Galway that minor team was more than capable of beating that Galway team just got out smarted on the day which is part of underage football.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 27/02/2017 15:43:09    1961661

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "Award for the worst free ever given at the end of the game to Donegal to level it lol. From what i could see there was zero contact on the player, but a draw was probably a fair result. Fair play to Donegal for sticking with the dubs given they had a very inexperienced team out.

Happy to see the dubs hold on to their unbeaten record though as it will be a great pleasure to end it in killarney in a few weeks time."
Talking to a Donegal man who said there was a tug of the jersey. He said it was soft. TV camera was at a bad angle to show it.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 27/02/2017 17:49:31    1961739

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Talking to a Donegal man who said there was a tug of the jersey. He said it was soft. TV camera was at a bad angle to show it."
Same was posted here by Clondalkinman I think re shirt pulled. It looked very very harsh indeed on TV but the camera angle may not have shown the shirt pull. I did feel the ref done Dublin no favours with some of his decisions towards the end yesterday as I alluded to after the game yesterday.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 27/02/2017 18:37:22    1961767

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Replying To waynoI:  "thanks for that frank roche"
Lol. That did make me smile.

InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 27/02/2017 20:14:41    1961814

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