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Saw a video of the Moy game, few handbags and dragging but no strikes from what I could see. No sign of Cavanagh getting milled in it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/09/2018 11:44:22    2142186

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Saw a video of the Moy game, few handbags and dragging but no strikes from what I could see. No sign of Cavanagh getting milled in it."
Shouldn't be allowed to take handbags on to the pitch. It's just asking for trouble.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/09/2018 11:57:14    2142190

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Saw a video of the Moy game, few handbags and dragging but no strikes from what I could see. No sign of Cavanagh getting milled in it."
Was there's brick in the handbag

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 17/09/2018 12:54:31    2142206

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Replying To neverright:  "Shouldn't be allowed to take handbags on to the pitch. It's just asking for trouble."
Careful now - humour or any attempt at it shall not be tolerated.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 17/09/2018 12:57:39    2142209

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Replying To neverright:  "Shouldn't be allowed to take handbags on to the pitch. It's just asking for trouble."
Especially if there is eyeliner in them, black eyes for all.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/09/2018 14:21:10    2142235

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Replying To Soma:  "Would have been no problems at all of it was reffed by an Ulster referee, I presume whoever was reffing this just doesn't understand Tyrone football."
Doesn't understand Tyrone? Or doesn't understand football? As far as I know the rules are the same in every county and country.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 650 - 17/09/2018 15:37:45    2142256

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Replying To ShinerMackey:  "As already pointed out above there were no straight reds in the game. The yellow card count was very high but almost all for cynical fouling and high tackles around the neck but nothing dangerous. Sean was caught in the face with a knee as he went for the ball. The lad that caught him was running for the same ball, Sean threw himself in to win the ball and got smashed. Hopefully theres a video out there somewhere of it as the lad that caught him was not to blame.

It's unfortunate that when posting the picture on twitter Sean didn't clarify that it was due to an accidental collision but maybe he did't think it neccessary. Colm got the line shortly afterwards. Wasn't the greatest game of football ever played but there'll be no suspensions coming out of it unlike the stewartstown/strabane game. I know there are plenty of people out there who love to bash the GAA and plenty of GAA people who love to give of about ulster/tyrone football but rather than jump on this story to promote your own narrative why not just wish Sean a speedy recovery. Same goes for Connor McAliskey who was badly injured against Ardboe last night - and before you all go nuts it was accidental also."
Hey listen, I posted this thread, and if anybody on here can show me my own personal trend of an anti-Ulster agenda, I'll bow down and say ok ya got me.
I was under the impression, seeing that it was such a mess of a game, coupled with the glum face on Sean in the picture with no indication given by him as to the cause of the injury, I unfortunately put 2 and 2 together and got 5.
But I admitted that I could have got it wrong and I would want nothing more than a speedy recovery for one of my favourite players of the modern era.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 17/09/2018 16:13:26    2142265

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Replying To ShinerMackey:  "As already pointed out above there were no straight reds in the game. The yellow card count was very high but almost all for cynical fouling and high tackles around the neck but nothing dangerous. Sean was caught in the face with a knee as he went for the ball. The lad that caught him was running for the same ball, Sean threw himself in to win the ball and got smashed. Hopefully theres a video out there somewhere of it as the lad that caught him was not to blame.

It's unfortunate that when posting the picture on twitter Sean didn't clarify that it was due to an accidental collision but maybe he did't think it neccessary. Colm got the line shortly afterwards. Wasn't the greatest game of football ever played but there'll be no suspensions coming out of it unlike the stewartstown/strabane game. I know there are plenty of people out there who love to bash the GAA and plenty of GAA people who love to give of about ulster/tyrone football but rather than jump on this story to promote your own narrative why not just wish Sean a speedy recovery. Same goes for Connor McAliskey who was badly injured against Ardboe last night - and before you all go nuts it was accidental also."
Part of the problem is Cavanagh himself has not clarified anything on the matter and I see it is now being reported that last week he called for second ref to protect players that also is now being reported but no where has the man ended the speculation. It would help greatly if it was clarified.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 17/09/2018 18:01:25    2142283

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There is a culture of cynicism in tyrone football

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 17/09/2018 18:40:56    2142287

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Replying To realdub:  "Well that's fair enough if that's the case, OK folks, nothing to see, here, my bad."
I just saw footage on line and there was a lot to see.. a disgrace. Nothing new up in Tyrone.. book should be thrown at both clubs

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 17/09/2018 18:52:52    2142288

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Replying To arock:  "Part of the problem is Cavanagh himself has not clarified anything on the matter and I see it is now being reported that last week he called for second ref to protect players that also is now being reported but no where has the man ended the speculation. It would help greatly if it was clarified."
You have to ask why Sean Cavanagh didn't clarify the situation.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/09/2018 20:39:53    2142306

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the real tragedy in this whole sorry affair is that many media outlets and many posters on this site have been determined to put the boot into tyrone football...did anyone stop to think of how all this reporting impacting on the edendork player who collided with cavanagh...no of course they didn't..too many people jumping on the bandwagon because they have an anti tyrone agenda..and too many people including so called national media willing to feed into it as well

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 17/09/2018 22:07:58    2142323

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "the real tragedy in this whole sorry affair is that many media outlets and many posters on this site have been determined to put the boot into tyrone football...did anyone stop to think of how all this reporting impacting on the edendork player who collided with cavanagh...no of course they didn't..too many people jumping on the bandwagon because they have an anti tyrone agenda..and too many people including so called national media willing to feed into it as well"
In fairness the game sounds like it was an absolute mess i'm a big Sean Cavanagh fan, monster of a player and seems like a gent off the pitch but I haven't seen him make any kind of statement on the challenge. Was it accidental, was it not? Was there previous between the pair in the game? Who knows? If you're going to make your injury public you should at least clarify how it occurred and whether it was accidental. I don't think anyone is trying to get the boot into Tyrone but the stats and photos from this game don't lie.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/09/2018 23:25:41    2142334

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "the real tragedy in this whole sorry affair is that many media outlets and many posters on this site have been determined to put the boot into tyrone football...did anyone stop to think of how all this reporting impacting on the edendork player who collided with cavanagh...no of course they didn't..too many people jumping on the bandwagon because they have an anti tyrone agenda..and too many people including so called national media willing to feed into it as well"
There is no "real tragedy" in this affair. It was a football game.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 18/09/2018 00:12:51    2142335

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Replying To Belclare1:  "I just saw footage on line and there was a lot to see.. a disgrace. Nothing new up in Tyrone.. book should be thrown at both clubs"
Where did you see it?

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 18/09/2018 00:39:44    2142337

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I have to say that how this story has been reported across most media has been very irresponsible. There has been a clear insinuation in all reports that Cavanagh's injuries came from foul play equivalent to assault. From all factual reports on the game to-date, this has not been confirmed in any way, with many accounts saying it was completely accidental. People should wait until they actually see the incident before sticking the boot in. Matt Cooper had a piece on it yesterday evening, and there was the impression that this was the result of an assault. RTE's website had reported it in the same manner. The fact is that to-date, there hasn't been confirmation of a single dirty blow in the game.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 18/09/2018 06:37:38    2142342

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I have to say that how this story has been reported across most media has been very irresponsible. There has been a clear insinuation in all reports that Cavanagh's injuries came from foul play equivalent to assault. From all factual reports on the game to-date, this has not been confirmed in any way, with many accounts saying it was completely accidental. People should wait until they actually see the incident before sticking the boot in. Matt Cooper had a piece on it yesterday evening, and there was the impression that this was the result of an assault. RTE's website had reported it in the same manner. The fact is that to-date, there hasn't been confirmation of a single dirty blow in the game."
I listened to that part of Coopers programme . He kept using the word culture and was very obviously in Sean Cavanaghs corner . It was obvious Cooper had his mind made up as to what had happened . Peter Canavan's response was very measured and balanced and was a thought provoking response to Matt Cooper's stance on the issue .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 18/09/2018 08:11:52    2142350

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I have to say that how this story has been reported across most media has been very irresponsible. There has been a clear insinuation in all reports that Cavanagh's injuries came from foul play equivalent to assault. From all factual reports on the game to-date, this has not been confirmed in any way, with many accounts saying it was completely accidental. People should wait until they actually see the incident before sticking the boot in. Matt Cooper had a piece on it yesterday evening, and there was the impression that this was the result of an assault. RTE's website had reported it in the same manner. The fact is that to-date, there hasn't been confirmation of a single dirty blow in the game."
According to this website, http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290482 there were 27 cards issued including 6 reds, sounds alot for a match without a "single dirty blow"!

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 500 - 18/09/2018 09:08:50    2142361

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Apparently Sean C went for a high ball and came down awkwardly, was lying on the ground and an opposition player landed on top of him, boot first. There was no strike as such. But either way it fuels book sales.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 18/09/2018 09:19:41    2142364

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Cavanagh and an Edendork player went up for the ball. Cavanagh caught it and went to ground and was turning to get up when a third man came sliding in and caught him with knee's to the head. It's open to interpretation whether it was deliberate or not but the video will hopefully clear it up. If there was intent the player deserves a long ban for such a dangerous tackle. Given the ball was high in the air before Cavanagh caught it, it is difficult to understand why the Edendork player came in as he did, Edendork are claiming he was pushed. Again the video should clear it up.

People saying they have saw the video are talking nonsense as it isn't on any social media. They are referring to the Stewartstown Strabane game the night before. There was no brawl at the Moy Edendork match as such. Ref was quite fussy and there was a lot of pulling of the ball and high challenges leading to a serious amount of cards.

A Another (None) - Posts: 193 - 18/09/2018 10:44:20    2142390

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