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Let me rich ex-soccer players rubbishes the GAA and calls US dinosaurs (minus the expletive). Well daddy cool Duff how come the game cannot be played in Turners Cross? because it is a rusting delapitated pile. Yeah the richest sport in the World but not in Ireland, they have a guy at the top of their organisation who priobably earns more than probably the combined salaries of 10 top teams in ireland he us up there with Trump in terms of salary. Yet some of the clubs in the sport he presides over can't pay their players wages? Why? because most of the people clamouring for the GAA to hand over its state of the art stadiums have never set foot in Turners Cross nor never will grace a league of Ireland match. The people who made Duff whatever he was (in soccer terms very average) got pennies and most of the Irish fans who followed Duff enriched him and his like. So Turners Cross is not good enough and all you want is for us to hand over the stadium toff our hat, accept your insults and be off? This guy and his like are away with the fairies. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 24/07/2018 13:57:37 2125689 Link 3 |
I am not anti GAA. Very ,very simple. Did the GAA take 30 million of funding that had rules attached to it and break those rules ? You know how they are so big on their rules. Like the one that says the game can not be played at PUC. We can have a discussion on the government in another forum.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 24/07/2018 14:00:36 2125691 Link 0 |
People (even in the GAA) don't know most of the rules nor do they need to. The GAA is NOT a democracy nor is the IRFU or especially the FAI with its president for life Delaney!! So democracy is not part of the GAA. The GAA is run by committees at club and county and that is the way it always has been. But consider the problem, Na Fianna has maybe 4500+ members and they are represented by a couple of delegates to the DUBLIN county. The Dublin club delegates representing tens of thousands of ordinary GAA members vote first on motions, if motions passed its raised at National Congress by a couple of delegates representing each county. So take a player called Canuck his voice is first represented by a club delegate, then a county delegate. Most Annual Motions put to congress do not even get discussed becasue it doesn't have the correct amount of votes to just discuss it. Now the point of all the above is, the GAA is NOT a democracy but neither is any Irish sporting body. Making quick decisions are quite impossible which is why we have committees whose functions are to bend the rules exactly in situations like this one.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 24/07/2018 14:13:27 2125700 Link 2 |
The did not take anything , they were given the sum of money as a grant so that another stadium could be added and, in process help the rugby application to host a world event. In the process they also made available stadiums all over the country. I'm not aware of them breaking any rule and I'm not aware of any agreement been made to the soccer community.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/07/2018 14:20:47 2125705 Link 5 |
So what does any of that have to do with the GAA not allowing Pairc Ui Chaoimh to be used for a benefit match?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 24/07/2018 14:23:38 2125709 Link 1 |
Well said. I feel sorry for the Millar family in all of this. What should have been a special occasion and an honour to the memory of a great man has become a slanging match. Shame on all sides. I'm sure most sound minded people only wanted for communities and people to get together and raise a bit of awareness for charities and the Millar family but a bad taste will now be left in the mouth.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 24/07/2018 14:24:05 2125710 Link 3 |
You are playing with words. If they were given they had to take and must have applied for the grant to begin with. A grant that seems to have conditions attached to it. Either that is fact or not, I don't know only what is reported. I assume if it is fact that the condition would not be specific to soccer but general use. Again speculation on my part. Either the report that a government minister has told the GAA they are in breach of a grant condition is true or fake news.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 24/07/2018 14:46:55 2125729 Link 0 |
because the aviva is in dublin..the game is being hosted in cork..it makes far more sense for the game to be hosted in cork..the gaa have the facilities to host it and can comfortably do so..they are hardly a poor organisation...lose the agenda....this is very straight forward to understand..comes across like quite a grudge you have
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2018 15:38:48 2125762 Link 2 |
check your facts..move along..
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2018 15:39:57 2125766 Link 1 |
roy keane never even played for cork city, does that mean hes somehow not a cork man?..where do you think people are more likely to attend a testimonial..in the place they came from or hours away?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2018 15:40:59 2125767 Link 1 |
36 years old leaving behind a young family. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/07/2018 16:09:33 2125780 Link 1 |
Let me rich ex-soccer players rubbishes the GAA and calls US dinosaurs (minus the expletive). Well daddy cool Duff how come the game cannot be played in Turners Cross? because it is a rusting delapitated pile. Yeah the richest sport in the World but not in Ireland, they have a guy at the top of their organisation who priobably earns more than probably the combined salaries of 10 top teams in ireland he us up there with Trump in terms of salary. Yet some of the clubs in the sport he presides over can't pay their players wages? Why? because most of the people clamouring for the GAA to hand over its state of the art stadiums have never set foot in Turners Cross nor never will grace a league of Ireland match. The people who made Duff whatever he was (in soccer terms very average) got pennies and most of the Irish fans who followed Duff enriched him and his like. So Turners Cross is not good enough and all you want is for us to hand over the stadium toff our hat, accept your insults and be off? This guy and his like are away with the fairies. DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 893 - 24/07/2018 17:05:07 2125805 Link 0 |
You can be rest assured that most reports issued by ministers are indeed fake news. Most GAA folk on this board would like for the pitch to be made available but would not be too happy getting lectures from individuals like Duff who obviously has nothing else to do with his spare time except to make ill-informed silly comments-was the man looking into a mirror when making such comment. Perhaps he would better occupied putting his efforts into raising funds to develop a soccer stadium somewhere.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/07/2018 18:10:38 2125834 Link 3 |
I think Duff has no manners, and in that context alone, is a dreadfully poor ambassador/spokesman for his sport. I couldn't believe the comments attributed to him in today's paper. Often comes across as an entitled peevish little man. Soccer in Ireland would do well to lose this guy as a 'diplomat' for the game.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 24/07/2018 18:39:48 2125840 Link 2 |
I understand simple maths, I don't need an explanation. You know how much Delaney is on? because if you do will you let revenue know? But it is a lot, a lotto lotta lot of money, money I am sure Bray Wanderers wouldn't mind. They are not the first club having difficulty paying wages. The point is Turners Cross can only accommodate 7000 which is ridiculous given the size and wealth of the game worldwide. But Irish soccer fans prefer English soccer teams to Irish clubs. Again to listen to the remarks made by the likes of Duff mocking the sport as being in the dark ages when the very grounds the sport is played in are in a shocking state. Look at Richmond Park, Tolka Park, Dalymount shambolic is the word I would use. So I have no problem with the event being played in PUC - if it is agreed, and fair play to the GAA if they do. I have no problem accommodating soccer either, no problem at all but maybe if they invested in the game rather grooming home grown talent for export, or pay their Chief exec within the means of the sport maybe just maybe they would'nt have to keep asking for a dig out. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 24/07/2018 18:42:54 2125842 Link 4 |
He was a great player but I'd agree with that. I remember the WC qualifiers I think against Israel where we were 2 nil up and drew. We could have snatched it at the end where a ball was going in far a last minute winner but he went to head it on the line for good measure and it inexplicably hit the back of his head and came back out. In his interview afterwards he said we need to dive more. Not a great ambassador alright.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 24/07/2018 20:55:50 2125891 Link 1 |
This is not about Duff. Who cares about he mouthing off. Don't use him as a deflection or cover for terrible behaviour of the GAA. They should be above this.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 24/07/2018 23:11:57 2125951 Link 0 |
100% for this game been played in PUC, its the right thing to do and proper use of a fine facility that sits idle for 8,730 of the available 8760 hours in a year. facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 214 - 24/07/2018 23:27:09 2125961 Link 2 |
i quite like him..remember him as one of our top players in his prime..great servant to his country..his comments were stating the obvious..the amount of people who are quite sensitive about the gaa rightly getting well deserved abuse is quite laughable..
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2018 23:32:22 2125966 Link 1 |
That's the point you are speculating as you don't know what was agreed/not agreed but you can be sure that the cork county board didn't sign up to anything that was going to break the rule book.......should the GAA find a way to facilitate thus then yes they should and I think they will but it isn't as simple as what some people are saying and also you have plenty of people just itching for a chance to bitch about the GAA and are using a human tragedy to further their own agenda ............most of the people howling up and down about access to Pairc up chaoimh are missing the elephant in the room which is the pathetic state of soccor facilities on this island despite it being the richest game in the world ......two bigs issues being Irish soccer fans prefer to go to Manchester or Liverpool than follow their local club and secondly the amount of people with their heads in the trough throughout soccer at an organised level........as for Duff , empty vessels make the most noise , if he had any integrity he would be organising his ex team mates together to make up the difference to the charities from their multi million pound salaries over the years, what a gesture that would be if professional soccer players said they would make up the difference in fundraising between the attendance at Pairc uni chaoimh and turners cross then when the gaa come up to the nark ( and they will) the charity will effectively double their money ( we all know that won't happen though, hypocrites)
PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 25/07/2018 09:15:38 2125993 Link 0 |