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Replying To ulsterrules: "lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City." He played 29 times for Cork City and 21 times for Ireland. Using a smartphone and Wikipedia, I figured this out in 11 seconds. extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 22/07/2018 22:12:14 2124906 Link
a gaa club in wexford chairman wrote the below letter to croke park. https://www.facebook.com/Monageerboolavoguegaaclub2015/posts/962174637320604 says it all. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/07/2018 10:47:46 2125035 Link
Replying To perfect10: "a gaa club in wexford chairman wrote the below letter to croke park. https://www.facebook.com/Monageerboolavoguegaaclub2015/posts/962174637320604 says it all." This letter shows again what everyone knows but most are in denial. 1. The GAA have selective rules and use them selectively. 2. The leadership do not know or understand the rules they have made. 3. Directives that contravene rules are handed out by Croke Park. 4. Application of rules blatantly show bias against soccer and the activities of their own members who play it. 5. This letter also show the leadership is out of touch with its grass roots and communities. Unfortunately we jump from one President to next without any significant change in strategy. This suggest that it is an old buddies club. The grass roots needs to take back their organization putting intelligent honest people forward. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 23/07/2018 14:09:37 2125216 Link
Replying To essmac: "Odd that people who detest the GAA wish to use their facilities. I lived in Dublin for many years and I'm all too well acquainted with the bile / the contempt that yer average Irish true-blue soccer fan, esp the Dublin variety, has for the GAA. I met plenty of them. Their chants of "no surrender to the GAA"; Hunt's sneer at the "crude violence" of Gaelic games; the Irish soccer team in the 1990s singing "you can stick your GAA up your ***". I love soccer as a terrific global sport, but I have little time for Irish soccer fans who are in my experience mostly shoneens. Of course it's a ridiculous decision here and the game on simple humanitarian grounds should just go ahead and the rules be damned; but if it doesn't, it won't make much difference in PR terms, most of the people calling for it despise the GAA anyway and no gesture will ever make much of a dent in their bigotry." I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC. There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority. I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night. MesAmis (Dublin)* - Posts: 13709 - 23/07/2018 15:21:03 2125263 Link
Also I can't really express the disappointment I feel with the GAA over this adequately. This is just so stupid, crass and spiteful that it really defies all logic. All flak and whinging the GAA gets over this is fully deserved imo. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13709 - 23/07/2018 15:23:03 2125264 Link
Unfortunately we jump from one President to next without any significant change in strategy. This suggest that it is an old buddies club. The grass roots needs to take back their organization putting intelligent honest people forward. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 248 - 23/07/2018 14:09:37 2125216 agree fully,but good luck getting anyone under 50 to go to a county convention on a wednesday night i think......most young people wont go on a committee. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/07/2018 15:38:48 2125276 Link
One question is how can a section of Pairc Ui Chaoimh (ie the conference facilities) be deemed ok to be used for this event or not contravening the aims and obectives of the association yet a different part of the same building (ie the stadium, pitch etc) not be deemed to be ok?? Is it ok to have a conference or meeting but not ok to have a game? Its just another example of how the association is being run on an ad hoc make it up as we go along basis. What do people think is going to happen in a negative way if a charity game of soccer happens in PUC? tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 23/07/2018 16:01:20 2125289 Link
Replying To extranjero: "He played 29 times for Cork City and 21 times for Ireland. Using a smartphone and Wikipedia, I figured this out in 11 seconds." Yep your right my mistake, I was including the 31 times he played for Ireland at under age also. it was actually 35 times he played for Cork City. 6 cup games. We can all spend a bit more time looking at the correct information. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 23/07/2018 16:17:12 2125294 Link
Replying To perfect10: "Unfortunately we jump from one President to next without any significant change in strategy. This suggest that it is an old buddies club. The grass roots needs to take back their organization putting intelligent honest people forward. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 248 - 23/07/2018 14:09:37 2125216 agree fully,but good luck getting anyone under 50 to go to a county convention on a wednesday night i think......most young people wont go on a committee." Perfect10 you are probable correct. The reason they probable won't is that the old guard will not allow them or create the atmosphere that will attract them. May be if both them and the players got a little slice of the cake that the top brass get it might be an incentive. There is not a corporation, company or organization in the world who would not like their workers to work and generate the income for no pay. Not calling for professionalism either. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 23/07/2018 19:58:18 2125380 Link
Just read that the government had to step in to tell the GAA they are in breach of the EU funding that gave 30 million to PUC. There are really some unsharp knives in that GAA drawer that they do not know these stipulations before getting egg all over their faces. Enough this year to make an omelet the size of PUC. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 23/07/2018 22:49:44 2125478 Link
Will be surprised and dissapointed if right decision is not made tomorrow and game gets go ahead for POC. My son got two tickets so I will be going either way, however cannot help wondering what level of support if match was between say Cork City and Dundalk. Doubt if we would be having this discussion. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 24/07/2018 03:16:22 2125543 Link
I am not anti soccer and said at the start they should let the charity soccer match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh in a spirit of charity but I'm getting fed up of all the anti GAA stuff from the media and soccer multi millionaires, anyone hear Damien Duff on radio this morning? We have the best amateur sporting organisation in the world, the good the GAA does countrywide for the youth of the country and the entertainment from proper full blooded sport we all get from it, men and women giving everything for club and county just for the chance to represent their people and do their best, now we have these namby pamby soccer profeesionals who spent a lot of their time rolling around feigning injury if they thought they got a tap on the ankle running down the GAA, I'm fed up with it it's time someone told them were to go. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 24/07/2018 11:38:46 2125603 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I am not anti soccer and said at the start they should let the charity soccer match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh in a spirit of charity but I'm getting fed up of all the anti GAA stuff from the media and soccer multi millionaires, anyone hear Damien Duff on radio this morning? We have the best amateur sporting organisation in the world, the good the GAA does countrywide for the youth of the country and the entertainment from proper full blooded sport we all get from it, men and women giving everything for club and county just for the chance to represent their people and do their best, now we have these namby pamby soccer profeesionals who spent a lot of their time rolling around feigning injury if they thought they got a tap on the ankle running down the GAA, I'm fed up with it it's time someone told them were to go." 100% agree. I'm disappointed the GAA weren't more accommodating with PUC from the off and I hope common sense will prevail but I fail to see how Duff's comments will help what is now a touchy subject. If anything they could be very detrimental. He should also be more concerned with how things are done at the top of the FAI. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 24/07/2018 12:20:43 2125626 Link
This won't be popular but why should this game be in PUC. Surely Aviva is there and I don't buy into this rubbish of having to play it in Cork. DragHimDown (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 24/07/2018 12:21:31 2125627 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Just read that the government had to step in to tell the GAA they are in breach of the EU funding that gave 30 million to PUC. There are really some unsharp knives in that GAA drawer that they do not know these stipulations before getting egg all over their faces. Enough this year to make an omelet the size of PUC." And this is a government which never gets egg all over their fat faces? The GAA have taken legal advice. Has our government? Too many anti-GAA people talking without knowing what they are talking about. The GAA should do what the government often does: allow the game to go ahead at the Pairc and then fine themselves for breaking their own rules. Money moves out and moves back again. Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 24/07/2018 12:27:07 2125630 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I am not anti soccer and said at the start they should let the charity soccer match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh in a spirit of charity but I'm getting fed up of all the anti GAA stuff from the media and soccer multi millionaires, anyone hear Damien Duff on radio this morning? We have the best amateur sporting organisation in the world, the good the GAA does countrywide for the youth of the country and the entertainment from proper full blooded sport we all get from it, men and women giving everything for club and county just for the chance to represent their people and do their best, now we have these namby pamby soccer profeesionals who spent a lot of their time rolling around feigning injury if they thought they got a tap on the ankle running down the GAA, I'm fed up with it it's time someone told them were to go." He didn't run down the GAA. He ran down those 'decision-makers' in the GAA who said they could not allow Pairc Ui Chaoimh be used for a benefit match. From you're namby pamby comment I doubt that you're not anti soccer. You've seen 1/22 players diving in some random matches on TV and painted then all as feigning injury. Not like some of the real men of the GAA who do the same. Cop on. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 24/07/2018 12:53:15 2125650 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I am not anti soccer and said at the start they should let the charity soccer match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh in a spirit of charity but I'm getting fed up of all the anti GAA stuff from the media and soccer multi millionaires, anyone hear Damien Duff on radio this morning? We have the best amateur sporting organisation in the world, the good the GAA does countrywide for the youth of the country and the entertainment from proper full blooded sport we all get from it, men and women giving everything for club and county just for the chance to represent their people and do their best, now we have these namby pamby soccer profeesionals who spent a lot of their time rolling around feigning injury if they thought they got a tap on the ankle running down the GAA, I'm fed up with it it's time someone told them were to go." I agree with you 100% and would add that Duff has some cheek, a good neck and should be told in no uncertain terms to get lost. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/07/2018 12:56:13 2125654 Link
Just because Duff has millions doesn't mean that the GAA aren't being crass and spiteful in not allowing this game to be played in PUC. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13709 - 24/07/2018 13:03:05 2125657 Link
Replying To Hardtimes: "100% agree. I'm disappointed the GAA weren't more accommodating with PUC from the off and I hope common sense will prevail but I fail to see how Duff's comments will help what is now a touchy subject. If anything they could be very detrimental. He should also be more concerned with how things are done at the top of the FAI." Yeah. Sometimes its better to say nothing if you have nothing useful to say. This is clearly at a delicate stage and the last thing needed is an ex international throwing petrol on it. We all want this to be resolved and I really hope it can be played in PuC for no other reason than to maximse the return for the charity. I couldn't care less if they play cricket on the day ! Duff also said something about it being too late now anyway and that GAA were coming out of this badly no matter what. Again a completely unnecessary comment that adds nothing to the debate. For what its worth if it can be fixed the GAA deserve to be applauded and not ridiculed and I really hope someone in the media who is in a position to respond to Duff, does respond and call him out for his nonsense. footballfirst (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 24/07/2018 13:05:08 2125659 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "Yep your right my mistake, I was including the 31 times he played for Ireland at under age also. it was actually 35 times he played for Cork City. 6 cup games. We can all spend a bit more time looking at the correct information." But surely if you want to include underage games for Ireland, you should consider underage games he played for Cork teams aswell? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 24/07/2018 13:12:54 2125663 Link