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Replying To eamonnmac: "Folks ..if you all want to support him so much a go fund me page can be accessed all around the world 24 hours,no need to actually show up to a game.Are you saying you want something for your money ? To think how wonderful you are ,how much will you spend travelling there ? Do Liam Miller's family need the money after a career with Man utd , Celtic and Sunderland ? If they are stuck is that not the failing of the multi billion global game ? Which is run run by absolute crooks Martin o neil could give up half a year salary from the their part time jobs where they earn 1.5 milllion or so between them ...or Big John could give up some of his stipend ? Are there any of the ex professional footballers from Ireland involved at ground level here voluntarily ? What is the Bauld Andy Reid Worth ? The much over hyped that he was ..the less he played the better he got. Everton looking to spend 50 million on a fella who has scored 5 goals in premiership ....and the begging bowl is out in Cork ....professional soccer and Fifa are the Shame. Looks like an opportunity for a whinge at the GAA Facilities for Soccer in Ireland are brutal as people are taking money out of the game and most people spent it on supporting corporations, sheiks , oligarchs who owns the premiership teams who i have team of mercenaries ...a fools gold. Soccer should be looking in the mirror and the gobshites who plead allegiance to there corporations ...you might as well support Monsanto." link What does any of that have to do with the GAA initially refusing to allow Pairc Ui Chaiomh to be used for a charitable event? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 21/07/2018 15:58:31 2124286 Link
Replying To kildare73: "Walked into the Newbridge thing pretty blindly didn't they? And we know how that one went for them. So you really give them far too much credit in the common sense department. The €30m in public money came with conditions attached, that's public knowledge. PUC was to be made available on a "non discriminatory and transparent basis to various users". Non discriminatory would appear to conflict with the Gaa's foreign games policy so they could be pulled up on it if it was pushed. I do think it's interesting the GAA appear to have gone running to the lawyers to try ensure they wouldn't make PUC available......... now THAT'S Trump like!! Anyone would think the natural inclination would be to try help a deserving cause but apparently not." Whats wrong with the AVIVA stadium? The home of Irish soccer to honour an Irish soccer player? what exactly is the problem here? You think because the GAA relented over a dump like St Conlaiths that somehow you have an armya swell of support to "revolutionise" the GAA? If St Conlaiths ever gets to point of being redeveloped who exactly is going to fund it? There is BTW revolution and change or what you are advocating anarchy and destruction. On with your crusade, if the FAI wish to rightly honour the man it should be in the AVIVA. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 21/07/2018 16:02:43 2124288 Link
Replying To eamonnmac: "Folks ..if you all want to support him so much a go fund me page can be accessed all around the world 24 hours,no need to actually show up to a game.Are you saying you want something for your money ? To think how wonderful you are ,how much will you spend travelling there ? Do Liam Miller's family need the money after a career with Man utd , Celtic and Sunderland ? If they are stuck is that not the failing of the multi billion global game ? Which is run run by absolute crooks Martin o neil could give up half a year salary from the their part time jobs where they earn 1.5 milllion or so between them ...or Big John could give up some of his stipend ? Are there any of the ex professional footballers from Ireland involved at ground level here voluntarily ? What is the Bauld Andy Reid Worth ? The much over hyped that he was ..the less he played the better he got. Everton looking to spend 50 million on a fella who has scored 5 goals in premiership ....and the begging bowl is out in Cork ....professional soccer and Fifa are the Shame. Looks like an opportunity for a whinge at the GAA Facilities for Soccer in Ireland are brutal as people are taking money out of the game and most people spent it on supporting corporations, sheiks , oligarchs who owns the premiership teams who i have team of mercenaries ...a fools gold. Soccer should be looking in the mirror and the gobshites who plead allegiance to there corporations ...you might as well support Monsanto." Well said will probably fall on the deaf ears around here. Or better when someone makes a sensible honest reply they usually ignore it and waffle on their merry way. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 21/07/2018 16:07:12 2124291 Link
Replying To arock: "Whats wrong with the AVIVA stadium? The home of Irish soccer to honour an Irish soccer player? what exactly is the problem here? You think because the GAA relented over a dump like St Conlaiths that somehow you have an armya swell of support to "revolutionise" the GAA? If St Conlaiths ever gets to point of being redeveloped who exactly is going to fund it? There is BTW revolution and change or what you are advocating anarchy and destruction. On with your crusade, if the FAI wish to rightly honour the man it should be in the AVIVA." What a stupid stupid post. If you want to have a bash at 'St. Conleith's' (get it right at least) then there's other threads to do that on rather than attempting to muddy the waters here. For your St.Conleth's I give you Parnell Park, at least our dump gets full use!! It may have escaped your attention but the game is being held in Cork, not Dublin. And the GAA could do with revolutionizing, it's going from one PR disaster to another. Even on here, a site full of GAA heads, is running a poll about whether the GAA should make PUC available. Last time I checked it was 86% in favour. So the GAA is out of step with its patrons, glad to see you are desperately clinging on to the 1900s though. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 21/07/2018 17:44:49 2124317 Link
Odd that people who detest the GAA wish to use their facilities. I lived in Dublin for many years and I'm all too well acquainted with the bile / the contempt that yer average Irish true-blue soccer fan, esp the Dublin variety, has for the GAA. I met plenty of them. Their chants of "no surrender to the GAA"; Hunt's sneer at the "crude violence" of Gaelic games; the Irish soccer team in the 1990s singing "you can stick your GAA up your **". I love soccer as a terrific global sport, but I have little time for Irish soccer fans who are in my experience mostly shoneens. Of course it's a ridiculous decision here and the game on simple humanitarian grounds should just go ahead and the rules be damned; but if it doesn't, it won't make much difference in PR terms, most of the people calling for it despise the GAA anyway and no gesture will ever make much of a dent in their bigotry. essmac (Tyrone)** - Posts: 1141 - 21/07/2018 19:17:28 2124345 Link
Replying To essmac: "Odd that people who detest the GAA wish to use their facilities. I lived in Dublin for many years and I'm all too well acquainted with the bile / the contempt that yer average Irish true-blue soccer fan, esp the Dublin variety, has for the GAA. I met plenty of them. Their chants of "no surrender to the GAA"; Hunt's sneer at the "crude violence" of Gaelic games; the Irish soccer team in the 1990s singing "you can stick your GAA up your **". I love soccer as a terrific global sport, but I have little time for Irish soccer fans who are in my experience mostly shoneens. Of course it's a ridiculous decision here and the game on simple humanitarian grounds should just go ahead and the rules be damned; but if it doesn't, it won't make much difference in PR terms, most of the people calling for it despise the GAA anyway and no gesture will ever make much of a dent in their bigotry." Most? A few bigots on both sides but I think the majority like a lot of sports. GreenandRed (Mayo)** - Posts: 7346 - 21/07/2018 19:44:09 2124352 Link
Replying To arock: "Whats wrong with the AVIVA stadium? The home of Irish soccer to honour an Irish soccer player? what exactly is the problem here? You think because the GAA relented over a dump like St Conlaiths that somehow you have an armya swell of support to "revolutionise" the GAA? If St Conlaiths ever gets to point of being redeveloped who exactly is going to fund it? There is BTW revolution and change or what you are advocating anarchy and destruction. On with your crusade, if the FAI wish to rightly honour the man it should be in the AVIVA." You are a very clearly an ignorant man or woman. God help your family, if you still have one. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 21/07/2018 21:54:44 2124409 Link
Replying To essmac: "Odd that people who detest the GAA wish to use their facilities. I lived in Dublin for many years and I'm all too well acquainted with the bile / the contempt that yer average Irish true-blue soccer fan, esp the Dublin variety, has for the GAA. I met plenty of them. Their chants of "no surrender to the GAA"; Hunt's sneer at the "crude violence" of Gaelic games; the Irish soccer team in the 1990s singing "you can stick your GAA up your **". I love soccer as a terrific global sport, but I have little time for Irish soccer fans who are in my experience mostly shoneens. Of course it's a ridiculous decision here and the game on simple humanitarian grounds should just go ahead and the rules be damned; but if it doesn't, it won't make much difference in PR terms, most of the people calling for it despise the GAA anyway and no gesture will ever make much of a dent in their bigotry." A Tyrone man commenting on this 17 minutes into tonight's match. Just saying ... Onion Breath (Carlow)** - Posts: 1412 - 21/07/2018 21:58:14 2124416 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "A Tyrone man commenting on this 17 minutes into tonight's match. Just saying ..." There must have been a lull in the match ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 21/07/2018 22:17:21 2124433 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "There must have been a lull in the match" My sympathies are with the Millar family. It does seem ironic that a millionaire developer is organising a fundraiser where the people of Cork fork out money from their relatively modest means when excessively rich former soccer players, who are no longer able to meet the standard of their playing careers, play a game of soccer. Would it not be more appropriate if these former team mates of Liam Millar were to privately donate a very very small part of their net worth to the Millar family than allow this fundraiser to be coming an episode in the bashing of another sporting organisation!! I would call on all Gaels in Cork to donate the amount of the ticket but to boycott the actual game. tasman (Roscommon) - Posts: 23 - 21/07/2018 23:39:11 2124474 Link
Replying To arock: "Whats wrong with the AVIVA stadium? The home of Irish soccer to honour an Irish soccer player? what exactly is the problem here? You think because the GAA relented over a dump like St Conlaiths that somehow you have an armya swell of support to "revolutionise" the GAA? If St Conlaiths ever gets to point of being redeveloped who exactly is going to fund it? There is BTW revolution and change or what you are advocating anarchy and destruction. On with your crusade, if the FAI wish to rightly honour the man it should be in the AVIVA." because the lad is from cork..extremely easy thing to comprehend that people are going to be far more likely to attend a testimonial for one of their own in the place where he came from than a few hours away where there isnt the same connection with the area....its like arguing that a kerry great should have their testimonial in croke park instead of killarney because croke park is the home of the gaa alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 22/07/2018 01:35:26 2124518 Link
This is Embarrassing! I wish to express my Sympathies to Liam Miller Family. SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 22/07/2018 04:22:37 2124531 Link
Replying To tasman: "My sympathies are with the Millar family. It does seem ironic that a millionaire developer is organising a fundraiser where the people of Cork fork out money from their relatively modest means when excessively rich former soccer players, who are no longer able to meet the standard of their playing careers, play a game of soccer. Would it not be more appropriate if these former team mates of Liam Millar were to privately donate a very very small part of their net worth to the Millar family than allow this fundraiser to be coming an episode in the bashing of another sporting organisation!! I would call on all Gaels in Cork to donate the amount of the ticket but to boycott the actual game." The sporting organisation bashed itself. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 22/07/2018 05:52:42 2124534 Link
Replying To alano12: "because the lad is from cork..extremely easy thing to comprehend that people are going to be far more likely to attend a testimonial for one of their own in the place where he came from than a few hours away where there isnt the same connection with the area....its like arguing that a kerry great should have their testimonial in croke park instead of killarney because croke park is the home of the gaa" Yeah I get the he is from down the road thing, but I don't get why the GAA has to open up its grounds when the home of Irish Soccer Sis lying empty and idle. And then people have the brass neck to complain about the GAA - it is nothing to do with them. By all means open the GAA grounds for everyone, not just a one off. GAA is an amateur sport Soccer is one of the wealtiest sports in the world. You can't have PUC so whats wrong with the AVIVA? arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 22/07/2018 13:53:32 2124656 Link
lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 22/07/2018 14:07:07 2124661 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City." He was from Cork. He may well have never played for Cork City but he'd still be from Cork. It's not so difficult to comprehend? What has different sports competing for players and supporters or professional body looking after soccer in Ireland got to do with people having a tribute game for a young man from Cork? Do the GAA not have professionals looking after it, though it can be hard to tell at times? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 22/07/2018 14:49:16 2124674 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City." "lets not forget... " But lets forget that Liam Miller was a Gael. Let's forget he was a native of Cork. Let's forget he played Gaelic games in Cork. Lets forget the overwhelming amount of GAA fans nationally that want the game played in Cork. Lets forget The GPA want the game played in Cork. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 22/07/2018 18:34:30 2124791 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City." You can dress this b.s. anyway you like to justify selective application of rules that are selective to begin with. You can have concerts, American football or tidally winks in Croke Park if you want to but not in PUC. The same as you can play a Leinster final in Munster ( Croke Park not available because of non gaelic games activity) but not a Munster championship game in Leinster. You can not hold a game in one grounds because it is too small to accommodate the crowd but can in another. On and on. Back to Liam Miller. He was an Irish man from Cork who played gaelic games and even if he was not, how about some consistencies. Just the odd time at least. What is the real agenda with the rule that does not allow the game in PUC? If you wanted to have a strip show, it would probable fly? (no disrespect to Stormy) Judging by the posters on here it is to support biases and certain beliefs that to be a true gael you must not allow anything that might promote a so called foreign sport. The Gaa had no problem taking those soccer people's taxes to put up PUC. Neither do the posters on here that do not want to share just a little bit with some one else. O! they might take over. I do not like soccer as a sport. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 22/07/2018 19:26:27 2124817 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "lets not forget GAA Soccer Rugby are all competing for the same players the same supporters and while it is not popular to say so but this is soccer, they have their own professional body looking after them , Aviva would be a better choice allow the irish fans to pay tribute to Liam as he played more times for ireland than he did for Cork City." You can dress this b.s. anyway you like to justify selective application of rules that are selective to begin with. You can have concerts, American football or tidally winks in Croke Park if you want to but not in PUC. The same as you can play a Leinster final in Munster ( Croke Park not available because of non gaelic games activity) but not a Munster championship game in Leinster. You can not hold a game in one grounds because it is too small to accommodate the crowd but can in another. On and on. Back to Liam Miller. He was an Irish man from Cork who played gaelic games and even if he was not, how about some consistencies. Just the odd time at least. What is the real agenda with the rule that does not allow the game in PUC? If you wanted to have a strip show, it would probable fly? (no disrespect to Stormy) Judging by the posters on here it is to support biases and certain beliefs that to be a true gael you must not allow anything that might promote a so called foreign sport. The Gaa had no problem taking those soccer people's taxes to put up PUC. Neither do the posters on here that do not want to share just a little bit with some one else. O! they might take over. I do not like soccer as a sport. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 22/07/2018 19:46:05 2124827 Link
Yeah I get the he is from down the road thing, but I don't get why the GAA has to open up its grounds when the home of Irish Soccer Sis lying empty and idle. And then people have the brass neck to complain about the GAA - it is nothing to do with them. By all means open the GAA grounds for everyone, not just a one off. GAA is an amateur sport Soccer is one of the wealtiest sports in the world. You can't have PUC so whats wrong with the AVIVA? arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3702 - 22/07/2018 13:53:32 Why should this be dragged up to Dublin. The man was from Cork. Organisers from Cork. So what if Aviva is laying empty that doesnt mean it should be used in this case. Soccer being a wealthy sport while GAA is amateur(which doesnt stop it being a wealthy organisation...) doesnt have any relevance to where a charity game should be played DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 22/07/2018 22:09:05 2124904 Link