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Lads, it's Friday, it's Summer and we've had some mighty hurling and football championship action already. No posters here are anti GAA or defending the FAI just questioning some actions by some members of both. We should count our blessings and agree to disagree because in 6 weeks time there will be little or no activity on here. Stay well and happy.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 27/07/2018 10:41:32
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Lads, it's Friday, it's Summer and we've had some mighty hurling and football championship action already. No posters here are anti GAA or defending the FAI just questioning some actions by some members of both. We should count our blessings and agree to disagree because in 6 weeks time there will be little or no activity on here. Stay well and happy." Well said.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 27/07/2018 14:30:29
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It's raining very heavy today ... the independent will have an article blaming the GAA tomorrow .
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 674 - 27/07/2018 17:31:15
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Replying To Greengrass: "They're sophisticated enough to have provided their spectators and players with by far the best sporting facilities in the country. They're sophisticated enough to have by far the best attended sporting competitions in the country. They're sophisticated enough to provide meaningful sporting activity for hundreds of thousands of people played out in first class club facilities the length and breadth of the country. They are sophisticated enough to organise cultural activities such as Scor which take place all over the country. They are sophisticated enough to have thousands of clubs throughout the country that are the heartbeat of their communities in both a sporting and social sense . They are sophisticated enough to have become much more than a sports organisation but rather a sporting, cultural and social body that has contributed hugely to the wellbeing of this country for a hundred and thirty years. They are sophisticated enough to have organized themselves in countries throughout the world and to have provided support in a social and sporting context to tens of thousands of young people who have been forced to leave these shores in search of employment. The GAA is far from perfect but I do think sophisticated is a word which would describe the organisation, it's achievements and it's activities . Don't you alano ?" Well said the naysayers are really loving this. And when the match does go ahead at PUC they will hail it as a victory for themselves and then go back to lie in the long grass waiting for something else to appear and justify their prejudices.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 27/07/2018 19:11:16
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Replying To OpenStand: "It's raining very heavy today ... the independent will have an article blaming the GAA tomorrow ." Well to be fair it is some of there fault :D
PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 27/07/2018 19:14:28
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Replying To PyatPree: "Well to be fair it is some of there fault :D" Vogue magazine is the publication of choice for the discerning GAA supporter now. The Indo ain't cool anymore!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 27/07/2018 20:28:33
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The word I heard today sounds like the GAA are spinning this well if they let it go ahead, personally at this stage I'd tell them to stay in turners cross or take it to the Aviva, but anyway if they showcase a game of hurling before it and some of the money goes to local deserving charities it could be a good thing, also make sure no soccer ex pro's are getting expenses or appearance money from it.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 27/07/2018 21:13:28
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Replying To alano12: "its a 45k stadium..nothing to do with the fai as its miles beyond what they or a league of ireland team can provide...your not making a realistic argument..stop deflecting from the gaa being in the wrong and attacking people for expressing an obvious viewpoint...do you attend any national team games or do you just attend games for a scottish team in a foreign league?." So you attack him for expressing his viewpoint! Interesting.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 27/07/2018 21:15:25
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Replying To alano12: "he called them dinosaurs..there is nothing over the top in that..its accurate in relation to how they have behaved." But that's just name calling, again not becoming of a man taking part in the event.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/07/2018 22:15:41
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Replying To DundalkGael: "Its not upto the FAI to build clubs stadiums! Up North the Government pay most of their ground works, in England and Scotland neither the SFA or EFA build stadiums for clubs! Why do you think the FAI would?
This is about the GAA refusing to hold a chairty match in their grounds (shocking behaviour from them IMO)
All this will do especially in Cork City, will push kids towards soccer more especially now they are in direct competition from next season with summer season soccer to begin." And what would a Louth man know about what sports kids in Cork City will choose?
Hurling participation numbers have never been higher for kids in Cork city with the the success of Rebel Og.
Over 30,000 tickets sold in Cork for hurling semi-final, all the hurling clubs in Cork City taking kids up on buses for the match.
Please do not talk about a topic you know absolutely nothing about and never will know anything about.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 730 - 27/07/2018 23:40:05
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Replying To MesAmis: "I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC.
There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority.
I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night." Yeah, but you're obviously a proper across-the-board sportsman and anyone who plays *any* sport knows how hard it is to be good at any sport, hence genuine sportspeople who take part in sports have respect for all sports. I'm referring primarily to the premiership fan boys. I don't think you can 100% equate the "more Irish than you" cultural smugness of a very small minority of GAA folk with the kind of quasi-racist contempt for Gaelic games and GAA fans that I've personally encountered from too many premiership soccer fans in Dublin. The first lot are culturally smug, slightly tedious, but largely inoffensive. Whereas the latter grouping are just bigots. And their anti-GAA bigotry, ironically, is peculiarly Irish. I have in the past tried to demonstrate Gaelic football to friends in England, Germany and the States when I lived in those countries and the reaction (despite the hopeless limitations of the "demonstrator") was uniformly positive and interested. It's only in Ireland that you encounter people who hate the GAA.
My experience has been that, certainly in the North, the typical GAA fan has wider sporting tastes than either soccer or rugby fans. You can chat to most GAA fans about soccer or rugby and you'll get a knowledgeable response - or at least some interest - in all 3 sports. You certainly won't encounter blind hatred for another sport! But try talking to a premiership fan boy about GAA or rugby and you'll encounter, respectively, jeers and bafflement; or to a Dublin rugby fan about GAA or soccer and you'll encounter a polite lack of interest in both.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 28/07/2018 01:29:57
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The joint event idea just seems to stink and seems really fishy to me.
I remember injured GAAplayers crying out for money years ago and it fell on deaf ears. So it looks like they are using the goodwill generated by the Liam Miller fundto throw money at what they see as an internal problem.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/07/2018 03:24:15
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Replying To Killarney.87: "The joint event idea just seems to stink and seems really fishy to me.
I remember injured GAAplayers crying out for money years ago and it fell on deaf ears. So it looks like they are using the goodwill generated by the Liam Miller fundto throw money at what they see as an internal problem." Damned if you do and damned if you don't . You just can't win with some people .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 28/07/2018 11:02:28
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Granted the GAA did not cover itself in glory with initial response here but the media most of which is v anti GAA and pro rugby and soccer has really painted the organisation as the arch villian here. No mention of why all the FAI is able to offer for this game is Turners Cross and still does have its own stadium in 2018 despite all the support and sponsorship it gets.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 28/07/2018 12:48:11
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Replying To seanie08: "Granted the GAA did not cover itself in glory with initial response here but the media most of which is v anti GAA and pro rugby and soccer has really painted the organisation as the arch villian here. No mention of why all the FAI is able to offer for this game is Turners Cross and still does have its own stadium in 2018 despite all the support and sponsorship it gets." I guess the family wanted it in Cork
PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 28/07/2018 12:49:32
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Replying To essmac: " Replying To MesAmis: "I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC.
There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority.
I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night." Yeah, but you're obviously a proper across-the-board sportsman and anyone who plays *any* sport knows how hard it is to be good at any sport, hence genuine sportspeople who take part in sports have respect for all sports. I'm referring primarily to the premiership fan boys. I don't think you can 100% equate the "more Irish than you" cultural smugness of a very small minority of GAA folk with the kind of quasi-racist contempt for Gaelic games and GAA fans that I've personally encountered from too many premiership soccer fans in Dublin. The first lot are culturally smug, slightly tedious, but largely inoffensive. Whereas the latter grouping are just bigots. And their anti-GAA bigotry, ironically, is peculiarly Irish. I have in the past tried to demonstrate Gaelic football to friends in England, Germany and the States when I lived in those countries and the reaction (despite the hopeless limitations of the "demonstrator") was uniformly positive and interested. It's only in Ireland that you encounter people who hate the GAA. My experience has been that, certainly in the North, the typical GAA fan has wider sporting tastes than either soccer or rugby fans. You can chat to most GAA fans about soccer or rugby and you'll get a knowledgeable response - or at least some interest - in all 3 sports. You certainly won't encounter blind hatred for another sport! But try talking to a premiership fan boy about GAA or rugby and you'll encounter, respectively, jeers and bafflement; or to a Dublin rugby fan about GAA or soccer and you'll encounter a polite lack of interest in both."
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 28/07/2018 13:11:31
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Granted the GAA did not cover itself in glory with initial response here but the media most of which is v anti GAA and pro rugby and soccer has really painted the organisation as the arch villian here. No mention of why all the FAI is able to offer for this game is Turners Cross and still does have its own stadium in 2018 despite all the support and sponsorship it gets.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1229 - 28/07/2018 12:48:11serious paranoia if you think media is pro rugby and soccer compared to GAA.
FAI actually share Lansdowne road with IRFU now in full so they do have their own stadium
DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 28/07/2018 14:09:44
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Replying To arock: " Replying To essmac: "[quote=MesAmis: "I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC.
There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority.
I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night." Yeah, but you're obviously a proper across-the-board sportsman and anyone who plays *any* sport knows how hard it is to be good at any sport, hence genuine sportspeople who take part in sports have respect for all sports. I'm referring primarily to the premiership fan boys. I don't think you can 100% equate the "more Irish than you" cultural smugness of a very small minority of GAA folk with the kind of quasi-racist contempt for Gaelic games and GAA fans that I've personally encountered from too many premiership soccer fans in Dublin. The first lot are culturally smug, slightly tedious, but largely inoffensive. Whereas the latter grouping are just bigots. And their anti-GAA bigotry, ironically, is peculiarly Irish. I have in the past tried to demonstrate Gaelic football to friends in England, Germany and the States when I lived in those countries and the reaction (despite the hopeless limitations of the "demonstrator") was uniformly positive and interested. It's only in Ireland that you encounter people who hate the GAA. My experience has been that, certainly in the North, the typical GAA fan has wider sporting tastes than either soccer or rugby fans. You can chat to most GAA fans about soccer or rugby and you'll get a knowledgeable response - or at least some interest - in all 3 sports. You certainly won't encounter blind hatred for another sport! But try talking to a premiership fan boy about GAA or rugby and you'll encounter, respectively, jeers and bafflement; or to a Dublin rugby fan about GAA or soccer and you'll encounter a polite lack of interest in both."
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 28/07/2018 16:05:39
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Replying To essmac: " Replying To MesAmis: "I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC.
There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority.
I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night." Yeah, but you're obviously a proper across-the-board sportsman and anyone who plays *any* sport knows how hard it is to be good at any sport, hence genuine sportspeople who take part in sports have respect for all sports. I'm referring primarily to the premiership fan boys. I don't think you can 100% equate the "more Irish than you" cultural smugness of a very small minority of GAA folk with the kind of quasi-racist contempt for Gaelic games and GAA fans that I've personally encountered from too many premiership soccer fans in Dublin. The first lot are culturally smug, slightly tedious, but largely inoffensive. Whereas the latter grouping are just bigots. And their anti-GAA bigotry, ironically, is peculiarly Irish. I have in the past tried to demonstrate Gaelic football to friends in England, Germany and the States when I lived in those countries and the reaction (despite the hopeless limitations of the "demonstrator") was uniformly positive and interested. It's only in Ireland that you encounter people who hate the GAA. My experience has been that, certainly in the North, the typical GAA fan has wider sporting tastes than either soccer or rugby fans. You can chat to most GAA fans about soccer or rugby and you'll get a knowledgeable response - or at least some interest - in all 3 sports. You certainly won't encounter blind hatred for another sport! But try talking to a premiership fan boy about GAA or rugby and you'll encounter, respectively, jeers and bafflement; or to a Dublin rugby fan about GAA or soccer and you'll encounter a polite lack of interest in both."
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 28/07/2018 16:14:25
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Replying To arock: " Replying To essmac: "[quote=MesAmis: "I've been involved in both soccer and GAA all my life. Played both growing up and as an adult now. Just playing soccer at the moment but thinking of going back hurling next season before the legs finally go. I attend loads of Dublin GAA games as a Parnell Pass holder and am a life long member of Bohemians FC.
There are awful GAA people who look down upon anyone interested in other sports as less Irish, not fíor Ghaeil. Thankfully those people are in the minority. On the other hand there are people involved in soccer that look down on GAA as a violent sport for culchies. Thankfully again they are in the minority.
I stand on the Hill or in Parnell with, more or less, the same group that I'm with in the Jodi in Dalyer of a Friday night." Yeah, but you're obviously a proper across-the-board sportsman and anyone who plays *any* sport knows how hard it is to be good at any sport, hence genuine sportspeople who take part in sports have respect for all sports. I'm referring primarily to the premiership fan boys. I don't think you can 100% equate the "more Irish than you" cultural smugness of a very small minority of GAA folk with the kind of quasi-racist contempt for Gaelic games and GAA fans that I've personally encountered from too many premiership soccer fans in Dublin. The first lot are culturally smug, slightly tedious, but largely inoffensive. Whereas the latter grouping are just bigots. And their anti-GAA bigotry, ironically, is peculiarly Irish. I have in the past tried to demonstrate Gaelic football to friends in England, Germany and the States when I lived in those countries and the reaction (despite the hopeless limitations of the "demonstrator") was uniformly positive and interested. It's only in Ireland that you encounter people who hate the GAA. My experience has been that, certainly in the North, the typical GAA fan has wider sporting tastes than either soccer or rugby fans. You can chat to most GAA fans about soccer or rugby and you'll get a knowledgeable response - or at least some interest - in all 3 sports. You certainly won't encounter blind hatred for another sport! But try talking to a premiership fan boy about GAA or rugby and you'll encounter, respectively, jeers and bafflement; or to a Dublin rugby fan about GAA or soccer and you'll encounter a polite lack of interest in both."
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 28/07/2018 16:15:27
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