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Replying To Breffni39:  "I like the hurling lads but it seems very easy to analyse hurling. The only thing they ever talk about is whether there's a sweeper or not. If its a close game ie 5/6 points in it then it's a classic for the ages, the best game in the world. If it's not then just talk about the last close game instead. Show a few points from player x - "He'll do that all day, off he's left, off he's right".

I know there's a lot more going on than that but they never go into it."
Donal Og Cusack used to go into games in forensic detail (no longer on RTE though).
The movement of the players all over the pitch not just the sweeper.
The type of style of play etc.
To the extent I felt like I needed a pen and paper to take notes!

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 30/05/2017 11:41:37    1992101

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah, Offaly had a brilliant team when Loughnane faced them in the 90s."
Offaly beat Clare on 1998, and won All Ireland that year. Things have changed since those days.
Saturday night's game was the best of the 3 weekend games, compared to the other 2 flops. It's Galway next, we haven't a hope according to the pundits!

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 30/05/2017 11:54:35    1992112

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Replying To Richieq:  "Here's and idea lad, if you don't like it don't watch it, I don't like BBC or Sky so I just don't watch them, I find it works far better than coming on here moaning and bitching about it 24/7."
Apparently on Tinder there's a 'Superlike' option. Should be something similar here to show approval. One green thumbs up from me is nowhere nearly enough for your comment. 10/10.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 30/05/2017 11:54:35    1992113

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Replying To gormdubhgorm:  "Donal Og Cusack used to go into games in forensic detail (no longer on RTE though).
The movement of the players all over the pitch not just the sweeper.
The type of style of play etc.
To the extent I felt like I needed a pen and paper to take notes!"
Yeah that's true. He was very good and hasn't been replaced.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 30/05/2017 12:04:11    1992122

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Ha admin changed the end of my post and removed the 2 people I said Brolly was the same as just a bit funnier. One was from Meath and one was from Kerry, they must have infiltrated admin!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 30/05/2017 15:21:22    1992247

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Colm O'Rourke for some reason seemed to miss a couple of glaring goalkeeping errors in his analysis of the Meath v Louth match.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 06/06/2017 13:39:12    1995577

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It's getting worse. Pat Spillane told us he enjoyed the Galway game but no analysis. Martin Carney said a player in the Cavan game was "like a dog trying to shake off a little cat" whatever that means. Tomas O Se said he expected the Cavan game "to be much more tighter". On the radio Tommy Carr reckoned the goal was the difference between the teams in Cavan which was very insightful. And as for Brenda Donoghue and the rest of the Marty Squad ...... give me strength. We deserve better than this. These people are all being well paid by our licence fee. They even give man of the match to the same guys constantly.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 12/06/2017 19:36:48    1998710

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "It's getting worse. Pat Spillane told us he enjoyed the Galway game but no analysis. Martin Carney said a player in the Cavan game was "like a dog trying to shake off a little cat" whatever that means. Tomas O Se said he expected the Cavan game "to be much more tighter". On the radio Tommy Carr reckoned the goal was the difference between the teams in Cavan which was very insightful. And as for Brenda Donoghue and the rest of the Marty Squad ...... give me strength. We deserve better than this. These people are all being well paid by our licence fee. They even give man of the match to the same guys constantly."
That's brilliant :-)
The only thing that can make those comments better would be alcohol.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/06/2017 02:02:00    1998845

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "It's getting worse. Pat Spillane told us he enjoyed the Galway game but no analysis. Martin Carney said a player in the Cavan game was "like a dog trying to shake off a little cat" whatever that means. Tomas O Se said he expected the Cavan game "to be much more tighter". On the radio Tommy Carr reckoned the goal was the difference between the teams in Cavan which was very insightful. And as for Brenda Donoghue and the rest of the Marty Squad ...... give me strength. We deserve better than this. These people are all being well paid by our licence fee. They even give man of the match to the same guys constantly."
I tuned into the Monaghan, Cavan game at the weekend without really caring who won. After hearing all through the match about all the better players Monaghan had, their wonderful teamwork and all the wonderful scores they were getting I ended up shouting for Cavan. Hard to think that such a clearly, to some, inferior team could come within the width of a post of a draw.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 13/06/2017 10:12:27    1998907

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Replying To gormdubhgorm:  "Donal Og Cusack used to go into games in forensic detail (no longer on RTE though).
The movement of the players all over the pitch not just the sweeper.
The type of style of play etc.
To the extent I felt like I needed a pen and paper to take notes!"
Agree. Not being biased but he was light years ahead of the rest in terms of tactical analysis.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 13/06/2017 10:37:56    1998926

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Ha admin changed the end of my post and removed the 2 people I said Brolly was the same as just a bit funnier. One was from Meath and one was from Kerry, they must have infiltrated admin!"
Even a humorous remark can be slanderous Flaker! Down with that sort of thing. Even if it's your own comment HS might get a call from Saul about their client. Unbelievable but, apparently, true?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 13/06/2017 10:43:26    1998932

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I think that the whole RTE match day commentary needs a shake up before you talk about the Sunday Game. There is no analysis really on the Sunday Game outside of looking at a couple of sending off/ bookings or talking points. It's predictable. You'll hear a lorry load of cliches and most counties are already judged before a ball is played. I think there is actually room for a show on a Monday maybe throughout the championship to have an in-depth look back at a couple of games from the weekend. Looking at tactics, team formations, match ups etc. I'd say there would be a massive audience out there for it. There's enough cameras at televised games now to assist in the analysis.
Luckily nowadays there is plenty of alternatives to RTE be it radio stations, newspapers and websites that all have GAA podcasts

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 13/06/2017 10:54:46    1998944

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "I tuned into the Monaghan, Cavan game at the weekend without really caring who won. After hearing all through the match about all the better players Monaghan had, their wonderful teamwork and all the wonderful scores they were getting I ended up shouting for Cavan. Hard to think that such a clearly, to some, inferior team could come within the width of a post of a draw."
True, 2 years ago they did the exact thing on The Sunday Game. you had all sorts of diagrams and triangles being shown by "cake" and others to demonstrate how Monaghan were playing far superior to Cavan tactics wise , yet in the end there was only a point in it and we missed a 45 and a long range free in the last minute. Tommy Carr was right , the goal was the difference in the end Lol :)

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 15/06/2017 14:02:23    1999946

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I heard Tomas O Se say that the Westmeath v Offaly game was an awful game, yet he watched 2 minutes of a report. How many teams/players are judged like that, with most pundits not seeing a team play all year.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 15/06/2017 15:05:10    1999972

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Replying To PK57:  "I heard Tomas O Se say that the Westmeath v Offaly game was an awful game, yet he watched 2 minutes of a report. How many teams/players are judged like that, with most pundits not seeing a team play all year."
Yeah the standard of analysis is poor enough! Why not send TOS out to actually watch the game and then come into studio and report on what he watched live (Imagine - actually reporting on what you've seen rather than a 2min highlight reel!).

I think RTE are wayyyy off in terms of analysis, in football moreso than hurling if I'm being honest.

Also, RTE commentators - like sometimes I wonder if were watching the same game! They seem to just say the standard current stereotype for that team instead of just calling it as it is - actually telling us what's happening!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 15/06/2017 15:42:11    1999997

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "That's your view but think he is very biased. I predicted on another forum (at about 5pm) which HS seems to have removed now that on SG Whelan would highlight the Mattie donnelly incident while he keeps his lips well and truly shut when his own native county players do far worse. And guess what - he didn't let me down - enough said for me."
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Yeah most of the football pundits on rte are biased towards their own counties.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 16/06/2017 03:29:22    2000188

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Replying To Breffni39:  "I like the hurling lads but it seems very easy to analyse hurling. The only thing they ever talk about is whether there's a sweeper or not. If its a close game ie 5/6 points in it then it's a classic for the ages, the best game in the world. If it's not then just talk about the last close game instead. Show a few points from player x - "He'll do that all day, off he's left, off he's right".

I know there's a lot more going on than that but they never go into it."
I don't what it is about Cavan posters on this forum when it comes to discussing hurling. It's like oil and water.

Did ye have a bad experience in school with some mean teacher from a hurling county who forced ye to play hurling against your will.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 16/06/2017 03:34:52    2000189

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I don't what it is about Cavan posters on this forum when it comes to discussing hurling. It's like oil and water.

Did ye have a bad experience in school with some mean teacher from a hurling county who forced ye to play hurling against your will."
Ah come on now - what about Cyril Farrell? You could publish a book of classic Farrell quips alone.

He does go into the finer detail of plays as well...

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 16/06/2017 16:43:36    2000423

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I don't what it is about Cavan posters on this forum when it comes to discussing hurling. It's like oil and water.

Did ye have a bad experience in school with some mean teacher from a hurling county who forced ye to play hurling against your will."
I'm discussing hurling punditry not hurling. I like hurling. What is it about Tipperary posters not understanding posts etc etc blah blah irrelevant generalisation of entire county based on 1 post...

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 16/06/2017 17:16:15    2000432

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Ah come on now - what about Cyril Farrell? You could publish a book of classic Farrell quips alone.

He does go into the finer detail of plays as well..."
I love listening to Cyril, I think he is a legend. I think most of the hurling pundits are good.

Yes, the hurling pundits are very positive and enthusiastic but hey what hurling fan isn't enthusiastic about the game.

There seems to be this weird contempt for hurling from Cavan supporters on this forum. I can't understand why that is the case.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 16/06/2017 17:53:03    2000440

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