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Minute Silence

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Replying To MesAmis:  ""Ah yes I see here that your relative was an upstanding and committed Gael. However it says here that between December 1983 and March 1984 he did not enter his club lotto and in October 1996 he shrunk his club's Junior B hurling jerseys forcing the club to purchase a new set. Hardly minute silence worthy. The best we can do is we'll get your club secretary to send out a condolences tweet""
Who knew that David Bowie had a prolific underage Gaelic Football career in Meath?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7349 - 29/03/2017 12:26:20    1972711

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Replying To Laois76:  "The strength of the gaa is that it includes everyone. From the ladies making tea, to the junior B player. Having a minutes silence for 'the very special person' and 'the great player' is elitist. People other than the high profile, such as the great player, make important contributions to the gaa."
Sport by it's very nature is elitist.By the way it seems like Elitist has become the new GAA buzzword for 2017 and every single thing that happens in the GAA people will now try and link it to elitism.

The more minutes of silence you have the less meaningful they are and the less respectful a gesture it becomes.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 29/03/2017 12:48:45    1972727

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Who knew that David Bowie had a prolific underage Gaelic Football career in Meath?"
yes, he played as a Lad in Slane.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 29/03/2017 13:22:30    1972735

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Sport by it's very nature is elitist.By the way it seems like Elitist has become the new GAA buzzword for 2017 and every single thing that happens in the GAA people will now try and link it to elitism.

The more minutes of silence you have the less meaningful they are and the less respectful a gesture it becomes."
We aren't discussing the number of minutes silences but whether it's appropriate to remember a national figure in Croke Park a county figure at the county ground or a club figure at his or hers home venue for 20 or 60 seconds.Croke Park it appears has issued a diktat reducing it which has been rejected by Westmeath.Some people believe the TV companies demanded it for the extra 40 seconds of adds.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1458 - 29/03/2017 13:46:53    1972755

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Sport by it's very nature is elitist.By the way it seems like Elitist has become the new GAA buzzword for 2017 and every single thing that happens in the GAA people will now try and link it to elitism.

The more minutes of silence you have the less meaningful they are and the less respectful a gesture it becomes."
The gaa's roots are more than sport. I'm sure you know you're history as well as I but the gaa is, or at least was, a Cultural movement. And with it brought traditions that brought communities together.

I'd say some posters might not be upset with this one move per se but in the overall context of where the GAA is going it's just another move away from the old ideals of the GAA.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/03/2017 13:51:02    1972757

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On a separate note, what do people think of these minutes applause at certain times of games in tribute to people who have passed.
On the one hand you have a fantastic mark of respect on the other you can have an uncoordinated mess if no announcement is made as to what / who the tribute is for.
Take Batman Ben's minute applause last year during the Dublin Kerry semi final. A large number of people in Croke Park weren't aware of this tribute. At the appropriate time, with the game in full flow, some people stood up and applauded, blocking those trying to watch the game behind them (I think Dublin were on the attack and came close to scoring a goal). This caused a bit of a row between some Kerry supporters near me where those who were sitting behind didn't know what was happening and were shouting all sorts of expletives telling the Kerry supporters in front of them to sit down. To which those standing turned around and gave it right back. It could have gotten messy but cooler heads prevailed.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 29/03/2017 13:56:37    1972759

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Speaking of tradition, how come the captains don't kiss the Bishops ring before matches anymore? Money no doubt! That was the beginning of the end for our beautiful game.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 29/03/2017 14:09:27    1972768

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Speaking of tradition, how come the captains don't kiss the Bishops ring before matches anymore? Money no doubt! That was the beginning of the end for our beautiful game."
I'd say that was more a reflection on the Catholic Church's role in society in general at the time. A gesture not exclusive to the gaa.

Anyway i have it on good authority that the bishops were stopped from throwing the ball in as Archbishop J.C. McQuaid couldn't throw the ball in straight, nothing to do with money ;) Also kissing the bishop's ring was found to be unhygienic!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/03/2017 14:32:10    1972779

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yes and remember when there used to be those ridiculous provincial championships. where you had 33 teams (including New York and London).
Instead of splitting them in to 4 groups of 8 (after the London V NY preliminary) as they do now , it used to be a shambles. you had one group of 11, another group of 9, another of 6 and another of 7 (including both NY and London). It was so stupid that some years a team like Roscommon would only have to beat a division 4 team to get to the group final (and an automatic place in the last 12), whereas a team like Tyrone might have had to play 3 division 1 teams to get to their group final. I am so glad they changed all that provincial nonsense.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 29/03/2017 14:33:02    1972782

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Replying To s goldrick:  "yes, he played as a Lad in Slane."
Tres drole s goldrick :-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 29/03/2017 15:02:35    1972799

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Speaking of tradition, how come the captains don't kiss the Bishops ring before matches anymore? Money no doubt! That was the beginning of the end for our beautiful game."
Health and Safety I think

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 29/03/2017 15:05:07    1972800

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Speaking of tradition, how come the captains don't kiss the Bishops ring before matches anymore? Money no doubt! That was the beginning of the end for our beautiful game."
There was enough kissing of the bishops ring going on, we don't need any more of it.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 29/03/2017 16:13:18    1972833

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Bring back the bishop's ring, and Fr Iggy Clarke, the GAA has never been the same since.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 29/03/2017 16:30:57    1972839

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It's easy to get cheap laughs making fun of the past. In 70 years time there'll be some aspect of the games today, thought to be the height of modernity and sophistication, that will look ridiculous. That's what happens when time passes certain things become anachronistic. Other traditions are part of the core of what an organisation was setup for. It's identifying which is which is the problem.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/03/2017 17:06:37    1972854

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They should put the minute's silence in the programme....... A blank page that if you want to observe you stare at for the minute. If you don't want to honour it you are allowed draw a picture on the page.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 29/03/2017 17:34:47    1972864

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "Tres drole s goldrick :-)"
thanks. I'm glad somebody gets it :)

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 29/03/2017 18:21:58    1972882

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Replying To Laois76:  "It's easy to get cheap laughs making fun of the past. In 70 years time there'll be some aspect of the games today, thought to be the height of modernity and sophistication, that will look ridiculous. That's what happens when time passes certain things become anachronistic. Other traditions are part of the core of what an organisation was setup for. It's identifying which is which is the problem."
Yep, it sure is easy!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 29/03/2017 19:03:24    1972895

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Very often you cannot hear what is being announced so you obviously are standing up and it could be 20 seconds before you realise it's a minutes silence. I think it's disgraceful and very inappropriate to cut it back to 20 seconds. After all its in memory of someone who has just lost theirs and very often long before they should be going. Money before people again. Grab all association.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 29/03/2017 19:04:14    1972896

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "What exactly has it got to do with money like people are arguing.It isn't but of course that doesn't stop some people on here whinging as usual.

Frankly there are way too many minutes silence in GAA matches that it makes the gesture quite meaningless now.

It should only be observed for very special individuals i.e former great players."
Spot on man. Minutes silence at club matches for people with only a passing interest in Gaelic games or better still relatives of people with a passing interest.It has turned into a sham of an exercise. How some idiotscould equate the shorter period with making money is crazy.

pennypincher (Carlow) - Posts: 777 - 29/03/2017 20:04:14    1972914

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If a GAA member who gave most of his life to foster the games dies, the very least he or she deserves is a minutes silence at a club final or inter-county match. It's common decency. I'm not in the least religious, but I do attend funerals of those I know who have died. It's called respect!

PatdeVerse (Dublin) - Posts: 107 - 29/03/2017 21:55:11    1972959

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