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Championship 2019 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To PolicemanFox:  "It was a pretty dire performance, especially first half. Only really Hughes, maybe Boyle and Kieran Duffy when he came on played up to the required level. The first-half approach was like an early season challenge game with hardly a tackle put in at all and players being easily beaten or jinked around. Better second half but the damage was already done. Referee didn't help either. There were a couple of obvious issues with the staring line up. Keiran Duffy, Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns and Vinnie Corey were all missing from last year's team at the start and that's a serious amount of physical power gone, even the commentators mentioned during the parade that Monaghan were lacking in that department. Two of the replacements for these were O'Hanlon and McKenna. There is no comparison in terms of physique there. There were no big hits or the drive that Hughes and Corey bring to the team and nobody else stood up and really took their place which is a problem. O'Hanlon needs to learn to run away from contact until he is stronger. His speed is a serious weapon, the frees and scores will come if he avoids going into contact. Referees aren't going to give him easy frees. It was obvious in the league. That said it wasn't his fault that Monaghan's forward play was so poor. Carey deosn't have the power or pace to beat his man and while he can knock over a point 2 occasionally I'd have Owen Duffy ahead of him for the next few games. He can run, he's big and if he's on form he'll score a few points. Midfield is the real killer though. Hughes/Kelly did OK but they are needed elsewhere in the team. Surely there's got to be someone over 6 foot that can do a spoiling job and free up at least one of Hughes and Kelly. The teams Monaghan are likely to meet in the qualifiers will have two big midfielders if nothing else and Monaghan will struggle against them unless this is addressed. Last year with Kearns/Hughes Monaghan generally won the midfield battle against teams that they would have struggled against in the past, the result an all ireland semi-final. This year without that midfield they're out in the first round and probably going to struggle to make it through the qualifiers. If Monaghan pull a div 4 team then there is scope to give someone a shot. Work needs to be done by the management team to dig someone up."
I thought we would be murdered in Midfield, given the injuries and with McKiernan back for Cavan. But as the stats on the Sunday Game showed, we actually won more ball from the kickouts than Cavan! The problem wasn't a new one unfortunately; lack of pace and penetration, refusing to mix it up and go direct, and above all poor decision making in the final third time and time again! It really is too easy to set up against Monaghan as never a surprise with their tactics, so even limited teams can turn them over as has happened every year since 2015! The forwards really lack composure also when taking relatively straightforward scores within the 45. Yes Cavan put them under pressure, but you have to be able to cope with that at this level. Stark contrast in the scoring efficiency of both Armagh and Down yesterday who took some great scores from acute angles and under pressure. Lastly, given the attacking limitations, we have to stope conceding goals in the first 5/10 minutes of games as putting us right up against it from the get go! How many games this year has it happened already!? Need to shake up the forward line for the qualifiers, and need to start trying out a more direct and fast counter attacking game. If Mickey Harte can change Tyrone's style to good effect, no reason Malachy can't take the same approach.

Tiarnach87 (Monaghan) - 20/05/2019 14:01:53

Championship 2019 - 1 Like(s)
what do we do? we dust ourselves off and move on. cavan are a top 10 team. we're possibly a top 7. they had home advantage and hunger...its actually not that big a scalp (predicted by quite a few people) but fierce disappointing nonetheless. The draw will be interesting. when's that made? hopefully avoid an ulster team.

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - 20/05/2019 11:10:10

Championship 2019 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To PolicemanFox:  "It was a pretty dire performance, especially first half. Only really Hughes, maybe Boyle and Kieran Duffy when he came on played up to the required level. The first-half approach was like an early season challenge game with hardly a tackle put in at all and players being easily beaten or jinked around. Better second half but the damage was already done. Referee didn't help either. There were a couple of obvious issues with the staring line up. Keiran Duffy, Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns and Vinnie Corey were all missing from last year's team at the start and that's a serious amount of physical power gone, even the commentators mentioned during the parade that Monaghan were lacking in that department. Two of the replacements for these were O'Hanlon and McKenna. There is no comparison in terms of physique there. There were no big hits or the drive that Hughes and Corey bring to the team and nobody else stood up and really took their place which is a problem. O'Hanlon needs to learn to run away from contact until he is stronger. His speed is a serious weapon, the frees and scores will come if he avoids going into contact. Referees aren't going to give him easy frees. It was obvious in the league. That said it wasn't his fault that Monaghan's forward play was so poor. Carey deosn't have the power or pace to beat his man and while he can knock over a point 2 occasionally I'd have Owen Duffy ahead of him for the next few games. He can run, he's big and if he's on form he'll score a few points. Midfield is the real killer though. Hughes/Kelly did OK but they are needed elsewhere in the team. Surely there's got to be someone over 6 foot that can do a spoiling job and free up at least one of Hughes and Kelly. The teams Monaghan are likely to meet in the qualifiers will have two big midfielders if nothing else and Monaghan will struggle against them unless this is addressed. Last year with Kearns/Hughes Monaghan generally won the midfield battle against teams that they would have struggled against in the past, the result an all ireland semi-final. This year without that midfield they're out in the first round and probably going to struggle to make it through the qualifiers. If Monaghan pull a div 4 team then there is scope to give someone a shot. Work needs to be done by the management team to dig someone up."
''Midfield is the real killer though. Hughes/Kelly did OK but they are needed elsewhere in the team. Surely there's got to be someone over 6 foot that can do a spoiling job and free up at least one of Hughes and Kelly.'' I'm sure there is but sure they won't get a go, we most be the only team in the country not to try something or promote youth, we seen what happened with Kearns when he was given the chance... Owen Duffy for Carey? fair enough but why not try McGinn or Mealiff, Bannigan got a good 10 minutes max the other night and looked to be the one of the few interested.. Why are these lads on the panel if they won't be used? I'm honestly surprised Corey and Mone weren't brought on just like they were in Healy Park when the game was well over. Someday and the other night in Breffni was just a taste of what it'll be like when we've no plan B and all of a sudden we have a team with a lot of young experienced players

MonaghanGlory (Monaghan) - 20/05/2019 14:42:16

Championship 2019 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To MonaghanGlory:  "''Midfield is the real killer though. Hughes/Kelly did OK but they are needed elsewhere in the team. Surely there's got to be someone over 6 foot that can do a spoiling job and free up at least one of Hughes and Kelly.'' I'm sure there is but sure they won't get a go, we most be the only team in the country not to try something or promote youth, we seen what happened with Kearns when he was given the chance... Owen Duffy for Carey? fair enough but why not try McGinn or Mealiff, Bannigan got a good 10 minutes max the other night and looked to be the one of the few interested.. Why are these lads on the panel if they won't be used? I'm honestly surprised Corey and Mone weren't brought on just like they were in Healy Park when the game was well over. Someday and the other night in Breffni was just a taste of what it'll be like when we've no plan B and all of a sudden we have a team with a lot of young experienced players"
You can sing all of that. Other than O'Hanlon and B Kerr who left the panel (alot of men left the panel recently), there's been very little new blood. McGinn in particular must be just hanging on at this stage. 2 minutes against Kerry in the snow for a man who was the main man in the U21 title team and who is "fully fit", is hard to understand. Obviously not a "favourite". We got what we deserved the other night. Actually 4 points was not a fair reflection on Cavan's dominance. And fair play to them. Management talked after about dusting ourselves down and no energy in the first half. Who's responsibility is that ? 3 Ulster final appearances just passed us by. 2013 and 15 are distant memories at this stage. And a more recent very winnable semi. Miss opportunities, regrets, unfulfilled potential ..........

Mon79 (Monaghan) - 20/05/2019 15:21:42