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Replying To Barney123: "Does Flanagan play full forward for Clonard? I sometimes wonder if some people have any idea of what it is like to play and manage for an inter county team. Imagine A Mc saying to the lads, "we're going to stick Flanagan in full forward because he's tall and needs to build fitness, I'm sorry D. Lehnihan and B. Sheridan you have played well and are natural full forwards but Flanagan needs to play in your position to build fitness so we can eventually move him back to midfield". The mind boggles." " natural full forwards " well thats your opinion,and you are entitled to that of course. No doubt if any player in the last few matches had SHOWN to be a natural forward at this level then of course putting Flanagan in would not be appropriate. In that case you would not upset something that is working. Then Flanagan would have to wait to get to full fitness to return to Midfield which appears to be his "natural" position nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 18/02/2017 22:44:50 1958085 Link
Replying To nobull456: "" natural full forwards " well thats your opinion,and you are entitled to that of course. No doubt if any player in the last few matches had SHOWN to be a natural forward at this level then of course putting Flanagan in would not be appropriate. In that case you would not upset something that is working. Then Flanagan would have to wait to get to full fitness to return to Midfield which appears to be his "natural" position" Look the Flanagan at 14 idea just aint gonna happen!! I doubt he's will be a starter..but he will be an option from the bench!! grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/02/2017 08:49:41 1958132 Link
'As things stand at the moment if Andy Mcentee selected a team that were only from Ratoath & Ashbourne it would probably be capable of beating any other team that could be selected in the county! Obviously its a hypothetical situation, but an interesting one. This Might touch a few nerves with people, so if they think im wrong by all mean try and pick a team from the rest of the county who could match this one?' MEATHTECH1243 (Meath) You'd be picking a teams from two clubs who are not yet good enough to a win a senior championship. Maybe you should be picking that team if you want success from the two clubs who have won the last 3 championships. You can put all the players from one club on a county team and that does not make them better players or indeed a better team. I do think that the standard of football could be/maybe raised if there was a competition say with 6-8 divisional teams in the county played on a knockout basis. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/02/2017 10:36:14 1958158 Link
Replying To browncows: "'As things stand at the moment if Andy Mcentee selected a team that were only from Ratoath & Ashbourne it would probably be capable of beating any other team that could be selected in the county! Obviously its a hypothetical situation, but an interesting one. This Might touch a few nerves with people, so if they think im wrong by all mean try and pick a team from the rest of the county who could match this one?' MEATHTECH1243 (Meath) You'd be picking a teams from two clubs who are not yet good enough to a win a senior championship. Maybe you should be picking that team if you want success from the two clubs who have won the last 3 championships. You can put all the players from one club on a county team and that does not make them better players or indeed a better team. I do think that the standard of football could be/maybe raised if there was a competition say with 6-8 divisional teams in the county played on a knockout basis." Who would you have from Simonstown? Tobin is all ready on the panel, from what I hear Kane and McKeever were asked but couldn't commit to work/college. Maybe Burlingham could have been the second keeper instead of Hannigan but I trust in the management to choose the better keeper after seeing them in training and challenges over the last few months. Who would you like on the team from O'Mahonys? O'Coilean and Forde are on it, maybe O'Reilly could have been given another chance but I'm not sure what other players could come into the county panel. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 19/02/2017 13:50:00 1958212 Link
Barney123 (Meath)- I'm not saying who should be on a county team or not on a team as I would guess that they guys managing the county setup know best. My response was to the previous poster with a counter suggestion to MEATHTECH1243 that the pick of the two teams who won the last few championships should be at least equal to the two other clubs that he mentioned-maybe they are not. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/02/2017 14:49:06 1958224 Link
Replying To nobull456: "" natural full forwards " well thats your opinion,and you are entitled to that of course. No doubt if any player in the last few matches had SHOWN to be a natural forward at this level then of course putting Flanagan in would not be appropriate. In that case you would not upset something that is working. Then Flanagan would have to wait to get to full fitness to return to Midfield which appears to be his "natural" position" Why do you think Flanagan will be better than the players who have actually played at full forward in the last 2 games and actually play full forward for their clubs? Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 19/02/2017 15:03:10 1958227 Link
Replying To Barney123: "Why do you think Flanagan will be better than the players who have actually played at full forward in the last 2 games and actually play full forward for their clubs?" I am have been at all the matches this year. To my mind Sheridan is simply not up to it. I have also seen him on trial before for Meath. However, some posters here say he is . I will be more than happy to admit i was wrong when Sheridan SHOWS us he is at the required standard. Lenihan maybe deserves another shot as he can be ok with frees just about. Flanagan would also be on trial at 14 . Absolutely nothing cast in stone. In fact only COS , Reilly and maybe Forde can be reasonably sure of a place in the forwards. This poster has to SEE players deliver the goods ,rather than just LISTEN to praise from their fans . nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 19/02/2017 16:42:52 1958271 Link
Replying To nobull456: "I am have been at all the matches this year. To my mind Sheridan is simply not up to it. I have also seen him on trial before for Meath. However, some posters here say he is . I will be more than happy to admit i was wrong when Sheridan SHOWS us he is at the required standard. Lenihan maybe deserves another shot as he can be ok with frees just about. Flanagan would also be on trial at 14 . Absolutely nothing cast in stone. In fact only COS , Reilly and maybe Forde can be reasonably sure of a place in the forwards. This poster has to SEE players deliver the goods ,rather than just LISTEN to praise from their fans ." This argument could go on until the cows come home! So let's leave it and see what team is picked for the next match? Just out of interest what team woukd you pick "no bull" ?? grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/02/2017 17:33:09 1958297 Link
Replying To nobull456: "I am have been at all the matches this year. To my mind Sheridan is simply not up to it. I have also seen him on trial before for Meath. However, some posters here say he is . I will be more than happy to admit i was wrong when Sheridan SHOWS us he is at the required standard. Lenihan maybe deserves another shot as he can be ok with frees just about. Flanagan would also be on trial at 14 . Absolutely nothing cast in stone. In fact only COS , Reilly and maybe Forde can be reasonably sure of a place in the forwards. This poster has to SEE players deliver the goods ,rather than just LISTEN to praise from their fans ." When your possible relegation candidates you can't be trialing players, that's for the O'Byrne cup. We had this discussion after the Derry game and most posters agreed that Sheridan was good and Lenihan missed 2 or 3 handy frees in that game so don't know why your talking about him as a free taker. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 19/02/2017 18:08:50 1958319 Link
Replying To Barney123: "When your possible relegation candidates you can't be trialing players, that's for the O'Byrne cup. We had this discussion after the Derry game and most posters agreed that Sheridan was good and Lenihan missed 2 or 3 handy frees in that game so don't know why your talking about him as a free taker." Ideally of course thats right...Question so who will take the frees that we can reasonably rely on? Lenihan was poor last match no question,but good against Kildare.Only worth a shot because we have nobody else..he has to prove he is worth it ...if not ..gone . Ideally all questions should be answered after OByrne cup,but you know that is not the case I am prepared to leave it all to Andy. I think he made all the right decisions last day ,against a weak team admittedly nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 19/02/2017 18:41:45 1958334 Link
Lenihan certainly deserves another shot in the league. He had a howler versus Derry and I hope it was just an awkward day. Nevertheless, if he misses the frees he did against Derry in another game,and the result goes against Meath, I would reckon he is in trouble. It goes without saying that you need a player to score the frees and is likely to get a minimum 3-5 point return per game Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 19/02/2017 19:32:21 1958368 Link
Lenihan worth another chance against Down, hopefully he nails an early free to boost confidence. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 19/02/2017 19:53:18 1958375 Link
I think Lenihan deserves another chance of course he is still getting to grips with intercounty football but once gets a little confidence in himself I think we will have a seriously good corner forward on our hands so just give him time. I also like sound of the Conlon chap from the Cillies sounds like he is a serious talent which is great for the county team l. I think for the we should for the Down game something llike this 1. P. O'Rourke 2. D. Keoghan 3. C. McGill 4. S. Lavin 5. W. Carry 6. P. Harnan ( if fit) 7. S. McEntee 8. J. Toher 9. B. Menton 10. G. Reilly 11. C. O'Sulivan 12. A. Forde 13. B. McMahon 14. B. Sheridan 15. D. Lenhian What is the story with D. Tobin M. Newman J. McEntee and A. Tormey. Foreveraroyal (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 19/02/2017 20:57:19 1958407 Link
Replying To Foreveraroyal: "I think Lenihan deserves another chance of course he is still getting to grips with intercounty football but once gets a little confidence in himself I think we will have a seriously good corner forward on our hands so just give him time. I also like sound of the Conlon chap from the Cillies sounds like he is a serious talent which is great for the county team l. I think for the we should for the Down game something llike this 1. P. O'Rourke 2. D. Keoghan 3. C. McGill 4. S. Lavin 5. W. Carry 6. P. Harnan ( if fit) 7. S. McEntee 8. J. Toher 9. B. Menton 10. G. Reilly 11. C. O'Sulivan 12. A. Forde 13. B. McMahon 14. B. Sheridan 15. D. Lenhian What is the story with D. Tobin M. Newman J. McEntee and A. Tormey." Good team!! don't know a whole lot about Lavin, Brian Power has ablilty but I could see why you would drop him grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/02/2017 22:01:34 1958440 Link
Replying To seadog54: "Lenihan worth another chance against Down, hopefully he nails an early free to boost confidence." Toher should take long range frees from the ground imo. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/02/2017 22:24:19 1958446 Link
Replying To Foreveraroyal: "I think Lenihan deserves another chance of course he is still getting to grips with intercounty football but once gets a little confidence in himself I think we will have a seriously good corner forward on our hands so just give him time. I also like sound of the Conlon chap from the Cillies sounds like he is a serious talent which is great for the county team l. I think for the we should for the Down game something llike this 1. P. O'Rourke 2. D. Keoghan 3. C. McGill 4. S. Lavin 5. W. Carry 6. P. Harnan ( if fit) 7. S. McEntee 8. J. Toher 9. B. Menton 10. G. Reilly 11. C. O'Sulivan 12. A. Forde 13. B. McMahon 14. B. Sheridan 15. D. Lenhian What is the story with D. Tobin M. Newman J. McEntee and A. Tormey." Your first post and your picking a good realistic team, well done. Anyone know if Harnan played for Moynalvey today? I never see match reports from them but if he did play surely he will be ready for our next game? Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 19/02/2017 22:51:26 1958454 Link
Replying To Foreveraroyal: "I think Lenihan deserves another chance of course he is still getting to grips with intercounty football but once gets a little confidence in himself I think we will have a seriously good corner forward on our hands so just give him time. I also like sound of the Conlon chap from the Cillies sounds like he is a serious talent which is great for the county team l. I think for the we should for the Down game something llike this 1. P. O'Rourke 2. D. Keoghan 3. C. McGill 4. S. Lavin 5. W. Carry 6. P. Harnan ( if fit) 7. S. McEntee 8. J. Toher 9. B. Menton 10. G. Reilly 11. C. O'Sulivan 12. A. Forde 13. B. McMahon 14. B. Sheridan 15. D. Lenhian What is the story with D. Tobin M. Newman J. McEntee and A. Tormey." im not sure Andy has much confidence in lavin at this level, mickey burke was black carded against Kildare, this presumably would have been the time to put him but he opted for david mcquilan instead and against louth mickey burke was replaced at half time for ruairi o'caoilean redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 20/02/2017 02:37:33 1958484 Link
Replying To Foreveraroyal: "I think Lenihan deserves another chance of course he is still getting to grips with intercounty football but once gets a little confidence in himself I think we will have a seriously good corner forward on our hands so just give him time. I also like sound of the Conlon chap from the Cillies sounds like he is a serious talent which is great for the county team l. I think for the we should for the Down game something llike this 1. P. O'Rourke 2. D. Keoghan 3. C. McGill 4. S. Lavin 5. W. Carry 6. P. Harnan ( if fit) 7. S. McEntee 8. J. Toher 9. B. Menton 10. G. Reilly 11. C. O'Sulivan 12. A. Forde 13. B. McMahon 14. B. Sheridan 15. D. Lenhian What is the story with D. Tobin M. Newman J. McEntee and A. Tormey." Not sure about my own clubman yet young Lavin, good footballer but hasn't done enough to nail down position. Melia from Ashbourne is best CHB I have seen for awhile, we played them in Feis cup and he was the stand out player, I think Andy could do with him on the team. Don't think Sheridan is the answer at FF too slow and doesn't make runs. Thought McEntee really upped his game v Derry deserves another shot at wing back. heard Mickey Newman could be more long term, has gone for scans and stuff. Tormey no longer on Panel needs operation on ankle and cannot take time out from work to have done, see he scored 1-3 for club in A league so still has a lot to offer but was taken off before end because of ongoing ankle problems. castleroyal (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 20/02/2017 10:40:22 1958566 Link
Ok never thought I'd write this but Graham Reilly should not start in this game, the man gave a fantastic performance yesterday and showed player of the year a clean pair of heels along with it. I am not been disrespectful towards Down but at moment they are in disarray and I feel we have enough to beat them without Graham, he can be left on bench just incase things go banana shaped. But I think he is owed a week off, more important games ahead that he will be very much needed for. Anyway it's up to Andy but I hope he gives his captain a rest for one week royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2017 18:34:13 1958828 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Ok never thought I'd write this but Graham Reilly should not start in this game, the man gave a fantastic performance yesterday and showed player of the year a clean pair of heels along with it. I am not been disrespectful towards Down but at moment they are in disarray and I feel we have enough to beat them without Graham, he can be left on bench just incase things go banana shaped. But I think he is owed a week off, more important games ahead that he will be very much needed for. Anyway it's up to Andy but I hope he gives his captain a rest for one week" With this in mind I would make one change, joey Wallace for Downey, and see how we go royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2017 19:12:30 1958850 Link