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Intermediate Final

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Replying To Wedgie:  "Going to try again to get past the heavy handed censorship, one line at a time...

There's a far better quality video of the game doing the rounds."
Where can we see it?

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 19/10/2016 21:37:47    1927729

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hearings committee meet tonight,i suppose we will know by 10pm,can't see it been overturned however.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 20/10/2016 10:07:35    1927784

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Replying To thelutch:  "hearings committee meet tonight,i suppose we will know by 10pm,can't see it been overturned however."
why sure the hearings hate refs and one abuses refs week in and week out .also few overturned decisions by hearings one to note if your a supporter in a game you can give evidence to clear someone as happened last year .there is your hearings for you

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 20/10/2016 10:27:41    1927788

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Replying To ta32:  "why sure the hearings hate refs and one abuses refs week in and week out .also few overturned decisions by hearings one to note if your a supporter in a game you can give evidence to clear someone as happened last year .there is your hearings for you"
Should be an easy enough decision to reach, Reilly's ban stands for striking out, the Dunderry player picks up a ban.
What could be fairer than that without tearing up the rule book?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 20/10/2016 11:22:17    1927809

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Replying To Wedgie:  "Should be an easy enough decision to reach, Reilly's ban stands for striking out, the Dunderry player picks up a ban.
What could be fairer than that without tearing up the rule book?"
For a club to record a game they must obtain a permit from the Co Board.

I would imagine both club's had a videographer there on Sunday, I know Larry McEntee was definitely recording the mattch but I don't know for which club.

I would imagine the Co. Board will need to see these DVD's and if they have caught any of the incidents in any appeal.

The video shot on the St. Colmcilles Facebook Page would have been a Facebook Live video and would not have had a permit. Therefore it is my belief that it would not be admissable in any potential appeal.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 20/10/2016 11:42:15    1927820

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Replying To jackhackett:  "For a club to record a game they must obtain a permit from the Co Board.

I would imagine both club's had a videographer there on Sunday, I know Larry McEntee was definitely recording the mattch but I don't know for which club.

I would imagine the Co. Board will need to see these DVD's and if they have caught any of the incidents in any appeal.

The video shot on the St. Colmcilles Facebook Page would have been a Facebook Live video and would not have had a permit. Therefore it is my belief that it would not be admissable in any potential appeal."
So unless the incidents were recorded on an approved recording device it never actually happened?
Is this really what you're suggesting?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 20/10/2016 11:57:12    1927826

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Replying To Wedgie:  "So unless the incidents were recorded on an approved recording device it never actually happened?
Is this really what you're suggesting?"
No, that's far from what I'm suggesting but what I am suggesting is that as far as I'm aware from being party to an appeal in the past only a video shot with a permit can be used.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 20/10/2016 12:10:00    1927832

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The way people are talking here it's as if Biggy had been victimised and badly beaten for 60 mins. These things happen in a game of football. He was rightly sent off for a stupid act and deserves to miss the replay

nearhand01 (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 20/10/2016 12:22:01    1927840

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Meath GAA's policy (like many other clubs and counties) on video recording and permissions are mainly based around issues of streaming & broadcasting and possible issues of child welfare and privacy etc. There are different rules regarding permits for broadcasting and for training and analysis for obvious reasons, all of the permits granted contain a clause that says that the "Club /Division seeking permission to record the game, or its agent hired for the purposes of same, shall make a full, unedited copy of the game available to the Committee-in-Charge, on request."
If they need to obtain a better quality image for the hearing they can get one.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 20/10/2016 12:23:27    1927842

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Replying To nearhand01:  "The way people are talking here it's as if Biggy had been victimised and badly beaten for 60 mins. These things happen in a game of football. He was rightly sent off for a stupid act and deserves to miss the replay"
Yes he does, but what about the player who struck out at him, does he also deserve to miss the replay?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 20/10/2016 12:25:16    1927843

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As a neutral i would like to see biggy playing on saturday,i did not see what he was put off for but going by the comments here it was a justified red card.However the treatment he received in the first two minutes of the game (all off the ball) is not justified in the laws of our game and IMO david coldrick and his two linesmen need to be brought in over this and ask to explain why they went unpunished.A cilles supporters is correct to feel disgruntled by the way biggy was targeted while the dunderry mentors will feel they got the tactics spot on and almost won the championship.As pointed out in a comment last sunday on this forum,dunderry employed the very same tactics in both quater and semi final games by targeting certain players off the ball (in semi final v bracks one player was struck in the kidney from behind before the ball was thrown in).If dunderry had to lift the cup last sunday the management team would have been labelled as heroes along with the players for getting the so called tactics spot on.This is going on all over the country and we also witnessed it in the all ireland finals this year especially in the first game whee diarmuid connolly was targeted by keegan which went unpunished but also a tackle by MD MACAULEY which deservered a red but also went unpunished.Who wants to be a referee ?

MY VERDICT IS BIGGY WILL LOSE HIS APPEAL AND THAT WILL BE THAT.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 20/10/2016 13:23:04    1927860

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Replying To Wedgie:  "Yes he does, but what about the player who struck out at him, does he also deserve to miss the replay?"
If he 'struck' him then yes he would deserve to be red carded/suspended but from the video it looks like he, for want of a better expression rugby tackled him to the ground which is a black card offence or yellow in some ref's eyes but certainly not a red!!!

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 20/10/2016 13:27:52    1927863

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Replying To Wedgie:  "Yes he does, but what about the player who struck out at him, does he also deserve to miss the replay?"
No, why would he face a retrospective suspension for an action which was not deemed a red card offence by the referee on the day?

nearhand01 (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 20/10/2016 14:21:23    1927890

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Saw Clip. Unbelievable that those low lifes would get away with this in a County Final. Reilly was consistently pushed into having to fight back to protect himself. Red card needs rescinding and offending team manager called in to explain himself and what sort of instructions he gave.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 20/10/2016 14:21:51    1927891

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Saw Clip. Unbelievable that those low lifes would get away with this in a County Final. Reilly was consistently pushed into having to fight back to protect himself. Red card needs rescinding and offending team manager called in to explain himself and what sort of instructions he gave."
hahahaha

VernonSmith (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 20/10/2016 14:35:04    1927895

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Saw Clip. Unbelievable that those low lifes would get away with this in a County Final. Reilly was consistently pushed into having to fight back to protect himself. Red card needs rescinding and offending team manager called in to explain himself and what sort of instructions he gave."
Funniest post of the year winner right here.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 20/10/2016 14:51:18    1927902

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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cavan+final&&view=detail&mid=226A2FD91BD13767F2D9226A2FD91BD13767F2D9&FORM=VRDGAR

First 30 seconds of this video is classic. Biggy prob wouldn't leave the car if he had to play in this

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 20/10/2016 15:08:28    1927908

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Replying To nearhand01:  "No, why would he face a retrospective suspension for an action which was not deemed a red card offence by the referee on the day?"
Interesting opinion and more than a little awkward I would suggest.
Only violence punished by the referee on the day is deemed eligible for review afterwards...?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 20/10/2016 16:20:55    1927927

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Replying To nearhand01:  "No, why would he face a retrospective suspension for an action which was not deemed a red card offence by the referee on the day?"
The ref didn't deem it to be anything on the day therefore it could be dealt with retrospectively.

Kepak10 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 20/10/2016 17:17:26    1927947

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Having watched the video a number of times and been at the game,I am yet to see were Biggy was struck? Was he targeted? Yes.Was he fouled? Yes.But Biggy was sent off for striking a player with an elbow,Dunderry targeted him bit none of them struck him like that.I am sure Biggy knows he made a huge mistake and that it was wrong.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/10/2016 17:42:48    1927958

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