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Replying To Barney123:  "Disappointing for him to be sent off so early in the game, did he not realise he was going to be targeted?"
could not make today's final but will definitely make it next saturday,i seen dunderry in quarter and semi finals and in both games players got digs off the ball and in one case before the ball was throwing in,worked well for them in both those games.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 16/10/2016 19:13:46    1926694

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Biggy was targeted from the throw in, didn't receive an ounce of protection from the ref or the linesman.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 16/10/2016 19:17:21    1926695

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Replying To shldrs2thewheel:  "Biggy was targeted from the throw in, didn't receive an ounce of protection from the ref or the linesman."
Couldn't stay for the game but you cant go around elbowing players if they're annoying you, Biggy should be used to this treatment and not retaliate.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 16/10/2016 19:45:28    1926700

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Pretty insipid performance from both referee and stand linesman for Reilly dismissal.

If neither man could not see at least three cardable fouls on Biggy in the first 60 seconds of the match, its a sorry state of affairs.

Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 16/10/2016 19:58:13    1926707

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Replying To Barney123:  "Couldn't stay for the game but you cant go around elbowing players if they're annoying you, Biggy should be used to this treatment and not retaliate."
Barney there's a big difference between 'annoying you' and the late hits/off the ball treatment he got. For him to be targeted three times in a minute you'd expect officials at a county final to pick up on it, there's only so much a man can take. Alas you'll have the keyboard warriors out in force.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 16/10/2016 20:03:42    1926711

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Replying To Barney123:  "Couldn't stay for the game but you cant go around elbowing players if they're annoying you, Biggy should be used to this treatment and not retaliate."
Barney there's a big difference between 'annoying you' and the late hits/off the ball treatment he got. For him to be targeted three times in a minute you'd expect officials at a county final to pick up on it, there's only so much a man can take. Alas you'll have the keyboard warriors out in force.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 16/10/2016 20:03:49    1926712

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Let's be upfront about this Biggy was silly to do what he did. For an experience player he should have known Dunderry would target him from get go. I have no problem with him getting the line for what he done.

But as someone already pointed out, within 2 mins of throw in he was fouled off the ball 3 times, 2 of which warranted cards (it's anyone's guess what colour !). Also you could see a certain Dunderry player was right in his face screaming abuse in front of the ref. Everybody could see what was going on but he got no protection from match officials. He looked for it from the linesman after foul number 3 but was ignored.

Coldrick is classed as the best ref this country has to offer but he and his team failed miserably on one of their primary chores in the first 3 minutes of this game ..........player welfare.

Kepak10 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 16/10/2016 20:24:45    1926717

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Replying To shldrs2thewheel:  "Barney there's a big difference between 'annoying you' and the late hits/off the ball treatment he got. For him to be targeted three times in a minute you'd expect officials at a county final to pick up on it, there's only so much a man can take. Alas you'll have the keyboard warriors out in force."
As I said I wasn't at the game but people think he's one of the best forwards in the county so he better get used to this kind of treatment fairly quickly or he will be getting a lot of red cards. I have been to a few of Ashbournes games this year and Tormey gets a lot of late challenges and fair play to him he gets on with it. Unfortunately if your a good player this is the type of thing you have to deal with.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 16/10/2016 20:44:19    1926722

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A friend of mine sent on this video from the start of the match. I wasn't there so didn't see the red but the video is very clear. They say that ref is one of the best in the country but I think he's highly overrated. Not even the best in meath.

Right in front of him the same player is pulled down (black card), then his run is blocked a few seconds later (black card) before his man flattens him (red card).

How can the ref let all that go and then give a red card as soon as the player reacts. Shocking from the officials. And it's not like the ref shouldn't expect this. A teams county star targeted. Pretty basic stuff for an official to look out for. Not that he needed to since this all happened right in front of him.

Here's the video https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1190959130952100&id=179652612082762

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 16/10/2016 20:56:34    1926729

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Any grounds for appeal ?

Kepak10 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 16/10/2016 21:03:26    1926732

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Replying To Barney123:  "As I said I wasn't at the game but people think he's one of the best forwards in the county so he better get used to this kind of treatment fairly quickly or he will be getting a lot of red cards. I have been to a few of Ashbournes games this year and Tormey gets a lot of late challenges and fair play to him he gets on with it. Unfortunately if your a good player this is the type of thing you have to deal with."
Every time he pulls on a colmcilles shirt he gets hit hard and late, he never reacts. But what happened out there today is disgrace, paint it whatever way you like there's not a man in the county that wouldn't have reacted.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 16/10/2016 21:08:26    1926733

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Didn't Diarmuid Connolly get a red rescinded last year because of the "provocation" excuse?
I don't agree with that excuse but there is precedent.
Looking at that video, it seems like there should have been a definite red card for the Dunderry lad at around the 30 second mark.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 16/10/2016 21:34:08    1926743

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Replying To Kepak10:  "Any grounds for appeal ?"
I don't see how they could appeal a strike, but the ref needs to have a hard long look at that video and himself. How can you let that carry on go on right in front of him. As someone said, what about player welfare.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 16/10/2016 21:44:13    1926744

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Didn't Diarmuid Connolly get a red rescinded last year because of the "provocation" excuse?
I don't agree with that excuse but there is precedent.
Looking at that video, it seems like there should have been a definite red card for the Dunderry lad at around the 30 second mark."
Connolly got off because they claimed it was "self defence", he's not going to get off but Colmcillies may appeal anyway, they have nothing to lose.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 16/10/2016 21:58:09    1926746

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If I were I cilles supporter and they had lost that game coldrik would have been a marked man after that game. Ref's do themselves no favours.. The standard of reffing in the Entire country is so unprofessional its laughable. It's a red card offence performed on biggy. He showed no aggressiveness to the dunderry player, he just tried to get him to stop holding him. The dunderry lad retaliates. That's a red card. Ref is 5 yards away looking at it. What is he thinking.

Biggy should have realised dunderry were out to get him and should have taken the hits and had most of them sent off.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 17/10/2016 07:30:27    1926772

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As a neutral i was very sorry for biggy yesterday and delighted the Cilles got a draw in the end. I have no idea what the linesmen and umpires were looking at and shame on them. It was a disgrace what was allowed to happen and it would have been a cake walk for the Cilles. I hope someone has footage to show how he was provoked as it is totally unfair on him. He should not have reacted but he is only human. Cilles will destroy them with a full team.

pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 17/10/2016 08:07:14    1926776

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Replying To shldrs2thewheel:  "Biggy was targeted from the throw in, didn't receive an ounce of protection from the ref or the linesman."
All that video seems to show is the referee playing a decent advantage to allow Cilles score.
Granted Reilly was hit late but was the ref not right to allow them play on and score.
It certainly wouldn't be much use in an appeal as it shows precisely nothing of the sending off.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 17/10/2016 08:34:33    1926779

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Best of luck to Colm Nally and the Cilles. The Cilles are the closest Meath club to the Louth border. I might venture out to Navan today."
They are not the closest club to the Louth birder.
You can walk from Slanes pitch into county Louth inside five minutes.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 17/10/2016 08:41:26    1926781

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Hang on a second now....

Dunderry targeted Reilly no doubt about it,but why shouldn't they? He is a key player. I was looking straight at Reilly and he elbowed the player,as far as an appeal goes he shouldn't have a leg to stand on.Clear red card and Reilly himself knew it he didn't complain.
As for the game,it was a great chance for Dunderry,but I suspect Cillies will win the replay.The showed great character to essentially play 60 mins with 14 men.Oh,and James Conlon is a class act..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/10/2016 08:47:25    1926783

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Replying To Barney123:  "Couldn't stay for the game but you cant go around elbowing players if they're annoying you, Biggy should be used to this treatment and not retaliate."
Absolutely.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/10/2016 08:49:48    1926784

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