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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Cathal Finn too"
Cathal Finn was the year earlier that lost to Tipperary in the Quarter Final.

meathforsam09 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 25/08/2016 16:26:14    1905918

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "The Squad is littered with them, as far as I know on the senior squad at the moment from that team is;

Power, Harnan, Flanagan, McEntee, O'Sullivan, Rooney, Lavin and I think O'Coileáin was in the squad but either dropped himself off or got dropped."
Power, Harnan, Lavin, Flanagan, O'Sullivan, James McEntee, Harry Rooney and I think Cian O'Brien

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1461 - 25/08/2016 16:46:44    1905931

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Replying To meathforsam09:  "Cathal Finn was the year earlier that lost to Tipperary in the Quarter Final."
Oh was he? my bad,I think Cian O'Brien was the other lad I was thinking of.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/08/2016 17:15:30    1905946

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Eamon Wallace was on that 2012 panel too, played some early games but I think he got dropped due to a conflict with athletics.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 25/08/2016 19:32:56    1906018

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Eamon Wallace was on that 2012 panel too, played some early games but I think he got dropped due to a conflict with athletics."
O'Coileain, Power, Harnan, Lavin, Shane McEntee, Flanagan, O'Sullivan, James McEntee and Harry Rooney all played in the 2012 All Ireland Final. There may have been others on the panel but I'll need to check the match programme later.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 25/08/2016 20:11:35    1906042

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Eamon Wallace was on that 2012 panel too, played some early games but I think he got dropped due to a conflict with athletics."
yeah that is true

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/08/2016 21:28:21    1906086

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Replying To jackhackett:  "O'Coileain, Power, Harnan, Lavin, Shane McEntee, Flanagan, O'Sullivan, James McEntee and Harry Rooney all played in the 2012 All Ireland Final. There may have been others on the panel but I'll need to check the match programme later."
Funnily enough at the time I didn't think it was a great Meath minor side.I think the one this year was better to be honest.Add the fact that Moriarty wasn't available and the minor side have a lot of talent..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/08/2016 21:29:38    1906087

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Funnily enough at the time I didn't think it was a great Meath minor side.I think the one this year was better to be honest.Add the fact that Moriarty wasn't available and the minor side have a lot of talent.."
I remember watching them play Westmeath un Mullingar, O'Sullivan was outstanding, also, I think it was dardis?? Was the guys name had a stormer, and fiacra ward, is it dardis that I'm thinking of? And what's the story with him.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/08/2016 23:02:16    1906132

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Oh was he? my bad,I think Cian O'Brien was the other lad I was thinking of."
Cian O'Brien wasn't part of that squad he's older than all of them. There was a good O'brien forward from skryne at the time is most likely who you're thinking of.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 26/08/2016 08:35:56    1906168

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Power, Harnan, Lavin, Flanagan, O'Sullivan, James McEntee, Harry Rooney and I think Cian O'Brien"
There was a C. O'Brien on the panel alright in 2012 but it was Conor O'Brien from Skryne not Cian O'Brien. He wore the no. 23 for the final. Interestingly I reckon 4 of that Dublin outfit have played Senior more than once or twice - David Byrne, Eric Lowndes, Shane Carthy, Cormac Costello.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 26/08/2016 08:37:13    1906169

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I remember watching them play Westmeath un Mullingar, O'Sullivan was outstanding, also, I think it was dardis?? Was the guys name had a stormer, and fiacra ward, is it dardis that I'm thinking of? And what's the story with him."
Barry Dardis from Summerhill.Still playing with them

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2016 08:57:24    1906183

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Replying To jackhackett:  "There was a C. O'Brien on the panel alright in 2012 but it was Conor O'Brien from Skryne not Cian O'Brien. He wore the no. 23 for the final. Interestingly I reckon 4 of that Dublin outfit have played Senior more than once or twice - David Byrne, Eric Lowndes, Shane Carthy, Cormac Costello."
Ah,more confusion! :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2016 08:58:00    1906184

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Alot of talk about the class of 2012. I did watch the semi and All-Ireland I think they where very lucky to win the semi I think they over archived that year. Maybe that's not a bad thing. From a management point of view.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 26/08/2016 10:47:33    1906230

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Alot of talk about the class of 2012. I did watch the semi and All-Ireland I think they where very lucky to win the semi I think they over archived that year. Maybe that's not a bad thing. From a management point of view."
exactly.........

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2016 11:16:17    1906255

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How can people say that minor team weren't that good when they have roughly 10 or so lads in involved in the current panel. What other minor teams have that?

Meathgaa5 (Meath) - Posts: 339 - 26/08/2016 15:30:17    1906384

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Replying To Meathgaa5:  "How can people say that minor team weren't that good when they have roughly 10 or so lads in involved in the current panel. What other minor teams have that?"
Nobody is saying they weren't good.But some believe they over-achieved a little.Yes alot of them are currently on this senior panel.Many brought in due to injuries,retirements and a downturn in Meaths fortunes.I have seen both teams and I believe the current minor team have more good players on that team.In general 10 players from one minor team is probably too much.That was a fantastic Dublin minor team that year,but only 3 have really made it.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2016 15:36:55    1906386

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Ah now lads you don't get to AI Finals by being average, that side was very good and to say that the current minor team are better is a stretch considering they won one game. Andy got the most out of the group, certainly wouldn't go so far as to say they over achieved.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 26/08/2016 16:04:01    1906403

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Replying To shldrs2thewheel:  "Ah now lads you don't get to AI Finals by being average, that side was very good and to say that the current minor team are better is a stretch considering they won one game. Andy got the most out of the group, certainly wouldn't go so far as to say they over achieved."
Wasn't that minor team beaten by Louth?

This current minor side,beat Dublin by 10 points and very unlucky to lose to Kildare in extra time who play Kerry in the semis this weekend.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2016 19:10:13    1906465

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Replying To Meathgaa5:  "How can people say that minor team weren't that good when they have roughly 10 or so lads in involved in the current panel. What other minor teams have that?"
I think the fact that 8-10 lads from that minor team have been tried with the seniors is more a reflection on the poor quality of players available to Mock O'Dowd than anything else. It was certainly a very good minor team, but not an outstanding one. They did extremely well to reach the All-Ireland final, and Andy McEntee did brilliantly with them. But no minor team should be providing 7-8 lads to a senior team. if they are, serious questions need to be asked about the minor teams before and after them.
Even the All-Ireland winning minor team of 1990 (which was far better than the 2012 team) only provided four senior regulars (Conor Martin, Enda Mc Manus, Tom Hanley and Graham Geraghty). The winning team of 1992 provided Brendan Murphy, Neville Dunne and Trevor Giles. 3-4 is about the norm.

On a complete tangent, of the Offaly minor team that won the All-Ireland in 1964, seven of them went on to win All-Irelands. Five of them were All-stars. That is some achievement for a minor team.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 26/08/2016 22:12:09    1906522

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "I think the fact that 8-10 lads from that minor team have been tried with the seniors is more a reflection on the poor quality of players available to Mock O'Dowd than anything else. It was certainly a very good minor team, but not an outstanding one. They did extremely well to reach the All-Ireland final, and Andy McEntee did brilliantly with them. But no minor team should be providing 7-8 lads to a senior team. if they are, serious questions need to be asked about the minor teams before and after them.
Even the All-Ireland winning minor team of 1990 (which was far better than the 2012 team) only provided four senior regulars (Conor Martin, Enda Mc Manus, Tom Hanley and Graham Geraghty). The winning team of 1992 provided Brendan Murphy, Neville Dunne and Trevor Giles. 3-4 is about the norm.

On a complete tangent, of the Offaly minor team that won the All-Ireland in 1964, seven of them went on to win All-Irelands. Five of them were All-stars. That is some achievement for a minor team."
Who are the 8 or 10 Harnan osullivan power Finn are 4.... Brian Mcmahon has been a bit player Flanagan mcgill have been injured. Other players like ward coogan Declan smyth Barry mconnon Shane Gallagher ocoileain Shane Melia Shane McEntee Jason daly burlungham have not got any senior games Harry Rooney never got any more than 10 minutes in any game

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 27/08/2016 00:09:59    1906562

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