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Hmmmmm…we have to get into division 1…. But we'll be relegated… I back the team but not the manager… even though Andy McEntee is the best thing since sliced bread Eivers and Garrigan weren't good enough 12 months ago but they're the only good thing now about last year Davy Byrne (Roscommon manager) wasn't good enough last year but they'd take him instead now…. Harry hogan needs to be brought back… but can't get onto the bench Shane McEntee needs to be at 6… but asked not to be considered for this year We'll be better when we've a top class coaching team in charge…. But no top class coach wants to come near us…. Have I covered all the bases yet…. Oh and of course player x won't be back.. cos I'm itk.. Even though others have said player x has rejoined the panel…. And everyone one of these players got a chance under Andy McEntee…. Lynch, Coffey, Brennan, O'Neill, O'Higgins, Flood, Gray, Frayne, Caulfield, O'Regan, Moriarty, Murphy, O'Halloran, Wyer, Rodgers, Mcbride, O'Reilly, McDonnell, Kinsella…. Sure Colm has done nothing Andy hasn't done before him don't he know And why couldn't we beat Armagh… and Donegal…. Hon the royal …. And breath ;) brian (Meath) - Posts: 1955 - 04/03/2024 19:25:05 2529814 Link 14 |
Isn't it quite interesting btw that we get everyone back for 3 games, no sigerson, the full panel training together and take 5 points from 3 neighbouring counties. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1955 - 04/03/2024 19:35:36 2529819 Link 10 |
Definitely both campion and Brennan have improved significantly. I still believe sticking a forward in a centre back position was the wrong call. But he has exceeded my expectations. Brennan is a very good keeper, which I have always said. he is not comfortable coming out and his kick outs while improving are still not where they should be. For me and it's a personal opinion I still would pick billy hogan. I also believe he would be on team of week. As campion would be as a forward. Neither are exclusive and an either or. As for Colm ? No I don't see huge improvement. I do see some and I am happy with that, we still have major problems in midfield, and forwards. In fairness backs with players tracking back has improved. Colm has abandoned his all out kicking game from last year as fitzy even stated on Sunday game. So he has learned on the job. However we still look leggy and underdeveloped at many times. Very easily turned over . Running into blind alleyways often with no one running off the shoulder. Our scoring is extremely poor and shot selections are also very poor. I honestly believe that these would improve dramatically under a obric or Gillespie with seasoned modern day coaching in background. We have beat a louth team that is not near as good as last year. We got hammered by Armagh we drew with a TC in Fermanagh we beat a Kildare side In meltdown, now while cavan were a tc team last year for me that has been the most impressive we have played under Colm. I sincerely hope for that to continue. But for me the objective is getting into div 1, and then staying there. I believe if someone else was on sideline we would have 8 points at the moment. You may not think that. But that's my opinion and many others who I speak to are of same opinion . And I believe it is necessary for us to Change things up at end of year and have someone in place early enough so the likes of Flynn McGill (even at his age) etc will return and we can go full Tilt at promotion next year regardless of who is coming down or coming up. I will add should we compete or beat dubs or get to all ire quarter finals then I will happily keep Colm for another year. As he will have proved that he can handle modern day inter county football. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/03/2024 19:45:24 2529822 Link 1 |
The view in Cavan is that this is the best Meath team in about 10 years with a crop of great young players. Best defence we've faced and the lowest we've scored in the league. Draw was probably fair but Meath would have much more cause to regret they didn't win cos of the goals they missed. But you have to take your chances and if you only score 1 point from play in the second half then you don't deserve to win. Meath should look forward to the Summer and beyond with a good deal of confidence especially if they get a few more players back and convert a few more chances. BreffniGael (Cavan) - Posts: 46 - 04/03/2024 22:06:15 2529846 Link 8 |
It's funny. I do be at pains to not mention Andy mcentee on here. Yet everyone else keeps bringing him up. And saying it towards me. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/03/2024 22:43:05 2529858 Link 1 |
Well said breffini, good to hear from yourself and bloodandbandage today. And what the view from outside the county is. You make some great points there re chance conversion, things aren't perfect with the team and management, no one's saying it is, but we're trending upwards which is what most reasonable poster on here are hoping for. Good to see Cavan on the rise too, gallivanting has you progressing nicely. Being of Kells stock and married to a lovely killeshandra girl, I'd always keep an eye out to see how Cavan are going. Best of luck for the rest of the campaign and hopefully you've secured Sam maguire football and we might see you in navan over the summer. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1955 - 04/03/2024 23:35:41 2529865 Link 6 |
I agree the Armagh game was very poor and I also worry about our scoring rate as it's very low.Im hoping we can also start to take goal chances because against better teams its vital you take them.You mention shot selection is that not down to the players?cant see Colm o Rourke telling lads to shoot from near impossible angles.You mention the midfield but its not o Rourkes fault Gray is out with sickness or Flynn is doing exams.Thats 2 big players who would make a huge difference there.You also mention another manager would have us on 8 points?with a bit of luck we would be,another couple of inches to the left and we beat Cavan and Costellos free just drops short v Fermanagh at the end if that goes over we are on 8 points but also note we could have lost games as well Cavans wide at the end and Brennan s saves v Louth.You also mention magill again as far as I know door was open but he chose not to comeback so cant force him to play and good luck to him.Also dont think belittling our wins saying the teams we beat and drew with are tc teams or poor is doing us much good,sure we were a TC team last year as well.Do I think everything is rosy?no far from it and we have alot of room for improvement both manager and players but we have played 5 won 2 drew 2 and lost 1 not mediocre from were I stand.i will add though whilst the defence has improved I think teams that run at us will cause us problems as Cavan especially in the first half were very slow getting the ball forward and got a bit more joy second half when they upped the intensity.There is not alot of difference between most teams in division 2 and top three in division 3 anyone can beat anyone on their day.Donegal are up on top because of McGuinness factor and Armagh are a bit further down the road than the rest and have good scoring forwards but everyone else is quiet close to each other.
Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 05/03/2024 10:57:31 2529906 Link 5 |
I think this management team has taken over the Meath team at an equally low ebb to what Andy McEntee did in August 2016. Just to be clear, your expectations are that we should reach an All-Ireland quarter final this year bearing in mind that the previous management team fell at the first hurdle against the same opposition in year 2 of their management in the Leinster championship that Meath face this year. Maybe you can explain a time when the previous management team went toe to toe with the Dubs and I would consider this to be a defeat of 3pts or less. Don't get me wrong, I would be extremely disappointed if this management team doesn't achieve div. 1 status or a quater final position in championship within next 2 years but no point in casting any major judgement at this stage.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 516 - 05/03/2024 11:24:19 2529909 Link 5 |
On a side note: Assuming there are no shocks in the provincials, Louth/Kildare and Clare will make provincial finals and, thus, get 2nd seeds status. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 05/03/2024 11:50:40 2529911 Link 2 |
It certainly falls more into the spoofer category - he infamously promised to delete his account should Tyrone defeat Meath in the 2013 All Ireland series. When they duly did, he backed down on his word and has been on borrowed time ever since.
LobinstownMan (Meath) - Posts: 125 - 05/03/2024 14:28:34 2529935 Link 6 |
Just reflecting on the weekend, bitterly disappointed to have left it behind, but when you put it in the context of where we are, and where we are going - it's a positive result hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 05/03/2024 14:36:13 2529938 Link 3 |
What did ye reckon after Saturday evening folks? Personally it was great to see a big crowd there. It's a rivalry (which seems to mean more to us than yourselves) which has not many games recently. Think the rivalry has got a bit diluted, but reckon by what we saw Saturday, we're of a similar level, so might be seeing a bit more of each other next few years. Be good to get that back up and going properly and get a bit of spite going! Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2422 - 05/03/2024 15:35:03 2529946 Link 1 |
Are Meath not very much a defensive team now? Everyone back behind the ball with slow attacks. Their scoring rate has dried up but they are conceding a lot less now, except for the meltdown against Armagh. Meath's shooting from, lets face it, not very difficult angles or distances, was dreadful and cost them the win on Saturday night. If Shane Walsh's goal chance goes in its game over. Instead its butchered and this let Cavan back into the game and they then actually go ahead. Meath only managed one point from play in the second half. Meath also struggled at midfield in the second half. While they are definitely making progress, some criticism is still allowed. BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 05/03/2024 16:08:45 2529953 Link 2 |
Definitely the last 2 games our defense has looked much more organised which is great. Against Louth not so much. They had 3 or 4 guilt edge goal chances which they butchered so we got lucky there but the last 2 games have been very positive defensively . Which it needs to be because we lack real quality up front in terms of top class scoring forwards with pace. Both Walsh and Frayne who would be our main scoring forwards lack that killer yard that makes a difference at Top 8 All Ireland level. Lynch is very sharp over 10 20 yards to get out in front but not hugely pacy or powerful to burn his man when he takes him on hence the reason he checks back on the defender pretty much every time . Jack O'Connor has pace to burn and Costello no slouch but neither I'd class as heavy scoring forwards so we need to be solid defensively and we have been in the last 2 games. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 872 - 05/03/2024 16:33:36 2529955 Link 2 |
A simple fact of the game that I've seen no one mention was when a Sean Brennan tipped over a fisted effort that was going into the net. Should it had then it would have been disallowed but instead he tipped it over the bar and a point for Cavan. Meath had one similar in the first half, well I think similar not sure if it was for a straight fisted pass into the net or was it for Daithi McGown been in the square. Contrasting fortunes but small margins. We lost a lot of our own kickouts which is something that we need to fix. We should be 90% plus especially on our own ones...
199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 05/03/2024 16:42:43 2529960 Link 2 |
Cian McBride is showing serious improvement. Feel like him and Gray at midfield would be crucial for their aerial ability when pressure is put on the kick out. Seen near the end on Saturday when McBride made a massive catch. Need some shooting practice as well but defence and midfield looking more solid. Apart from Armagh game defence been keeping a tight reign on forward lines and conceding low scores. Campion is really settling into the centre back role too and his ability on the ball suits him when teams are dropping off and he's given space. NYRoyal (USA) - Posts: 28 - 05/03/2024 16:56:02 2529963 Link 1 |
Yeah that was an error but in fairness it was an acceptable one if there is such a thing. Seeing a ball come towards goal and tip it over the bar is instinctive. However if he had let it in. No score would be given
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2024 17:57:52 2529976 Link 0 |
100% agree with McBride. I thought he was a long way off a county player from what I saw with him at adult and under 20 level in his cameos but he's pleasantly surprised me
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1471 - 05/03/2024 18:32:01 2529985 Link 0 |
It's a small margin but he only gets a second to make a decision on the pitch. If he let's it in and the ref or umpires give a goal for whatever reason then we lose and are in a relegation battle plus some people will blame the keeper for not being more cautious.
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 05/03/2024 18:38:31 2529986 Link 0 |
Take another look at it if you can. There was a hand in there deflecting the fisted effort which would have meant goal would have counted if ref noticed. You listened to commentator but needs an even more careful look. Brennan was right to go for ball.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 516 - 05/03/2024 18:48:02 2529988 Link 0 |