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Keegan Cup 2019

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "Agree with you there! Being able to park in the school beside the ground and access the pitch area from the school is great too. Pitch is in great condition!
The grass cover on the Ashbourne pitch is a bit thin. I hear it is being resurfaced so maybe that is why they don't get too many games."
Dunshaughlin pitch is definitely in good condition and to be fair always is but I think it is too small and tight for modern game, they should work on their new pitch to bring it to the same standards as would be better size for championship games

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 11/09/2019 14:10:15    2234415

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "Apologies - I did misread your initial post! Not sure what the story is with Don/Ash. Great facilities, big playing numbers, minor champions last year! Maybe they struggle to hold onto players. I suppose you can't rule them out yet - but the way they are struggling to score - 8 points against Ratoath and 7 points against Moynalvey - it is hard to see them scoring enough to get past Curraha!"
You seem to have missed the 1-15 that the Moores got against Summerhill, the 3-15 against Rathkenny and the 6-21 against Longwood.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 11/09/2019 14:31:15    2234436

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Replying To Greenfield:  "You seem to have missed the 1-15 that the Moores got against Summerhill, the 3-15 against Rathkenny and the 6-21 against Longwood."
To be honest - I wasn't paying to much heed to the Rathkenny or Longwood results as both Summerhill and Ratoath scored well against them too. 1-15 against Summerhill was decent alright and certainly worth noting. Beating Summerhill was a very good result for them.

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 11/09/2019 15:41:54    2234474

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Dunshaughlin pitch is definitely in good condition and to be fair always is but I think it is too small and tight for modern game, they should work on their new pitch to bring it to the same standards as would be better size for championship games"
Jes it's big enough for junior d Believe me

royler (Meath) - Posts: 259 - 11/09/2019 16:09:51    2234483

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Tones have a new huge pitch in Gibbstown, as big a pitch as there is in the county. Great for big games in dry conditions. There was an issue with drainage though

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 11/09/2019 18:02:17    2234520

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Replying To Wiseman7:  "Na Fianna the dark horse, they are a super outfit and will cause a upset."
They didn't look like a super outfit against Simonstown

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 11/09/2019 21:46:27    2234585

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Replying To Maestro:  "They didn't look like a super outfit against Simonstown"
Simonstown were on an entirely different level to Na Fianna. It was men against boys and you were stuffed by almost 20 points. Na Fianna might give Summerhill a run for it as its a local Derby but for me Simonstown and Kells are the two form teams and I expect them to possibly make up the County Final pairing.

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 12/09/2019 08:32:18    2234639

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Simonstown were on an entirely different level to Na Fianna. It was men against boys and you were stuffed by almost 20 points. Na Fianna might give Summerhill a run for it as its a local Derby but for me Simonstown and Kells are the two form teams and I expect them to possibly make up the County Final pairing."
Summerhill will go very close, they will beat na Fianna comfortably.
Kells would be a lot shorter odds only for they always fail to get over line.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 12/09/2019 10:47:46    2234675

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Replying To Analyst:  "Tones have a new huge pitch in Gibbstown, as big a pitch as there is in the county. Great for big games in dry conditions. There was an issue with drainage though"
Is it a new pitch in addition to the pitch that's there already? if so, it should attract some big games assuming the drainage issue is resolved?

Dalriada (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 12/09/2019 11:55:11    2234703

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Replying To overthehill72:  "Summerhill will go very close, they will beat na Fianna comfortably.
Kells would be a lot shorter odds only for they always fail to get over line."
summerhill havent a hope to be honest

Wiseman7 (Meath) - Posts: 16 - 12/09/2019 13:18:56    2234733

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Replying To Dalriada:  "Is it a new pitch in addition to the pitch that's there already? if so, it should attract some big games assuming the drainage issue is resolved?"
Yeah its an additional pitch not really visible from road. Not sure if the issue is fully sorted but there were a lot of experts on hand who seemed to be well versed on these issues.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 12/09/2019 14:11:50    2234748

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Curragha or simonstown will lift the Keegan. Hon d ha

royler (Meath) - Posts: 259 - 12/09/2019 15:10:17    2234770

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Curraha have now been put in an awful spot with fixtures, 5 of their players will play hurling with ratoath on sunday and then will have to play ashbourne in the pre-lim quarter final on the tuesday. County board need to take a look at themselves and start looking after the players

Hontheboys19 (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 12/09/2019 16:16:34    2234794

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Replying To royler:  "Curragha or simonstown will lift the Keegan. Hon d ha"
Yes

Hontheboys19 (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 12/09/2019 16:18:06    2234796

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Am I right in that the draw will put winner of Kells/Ha/Dun Ash V SHill/Na Fianna and Simonstown/Dunsh V Skryne/Ratoath

Kells have been really impressive all year and have the advantage over the their opponents of the extra rest, Think the Ha will just beat Dun/Ash as they carry a lot of momentum. But Dun/Ash have been round the block a few times and would not be surprised if they win a tight game. Think the Ha's lack of squad depth will cost them as things go on. Also think that they have surprised plenty over the past 3 games. Definitely felt Simonstown took them for granted and from speaking with some in the club they did not take them seriously enough. That certainly wont be happening from hear on in. Kells will ultimately progress.

Summerhill will beat Na Fianna, to much quality and experience not to. Shane Walsh has been a revelation but has a lot of responsibility for someone so young. NaFianna are a coming team but this year is just too soon, even allowing for the trick or 3 that Dudley will have up his sleeve.

Ratoath will beat Skryne, it will be a tough game but its time these lads stood up at the business end of the championship. They seemed to have a lot of lads back for the last couple of rounds.

Dunshaughlin are much improved this year and have some very young very talented forwards along with some old heads, however they are coming up against undoubtedly the best defence in the championship and Simonstowns grunt as much as anything will see them through, They will have too much for Dunshaughlin.



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longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 12/09/2019 16:49:15    2234813

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Na fianna very loose ar the back you will not get away with that again kells simonstown etc.but def not bad team.

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 12/09/2019 18:50:51    2234845

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I'm very sorry to learn of that poor young lads passing, may all that is good bless him and his heartbroken family.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 12/09/2019 20:52:03    2234873

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Replying To realdub:  "I'm very sorry to learn of that poor young lads passing, may all that is good bless him and his heartbroken family."
Bring everything back to reality and the game is only a game. Rest in peace, god bless all his family at this time.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/09/2019 00:59:18    2234915

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Replying To longroadback:  "Am I right in that the draw will put winner of Kells/Ha/Dun Ash V SHill/Na Fianna and Simonstown/Dunsh V Skryne/Ratoath

Kells have been really impressive all year and have the advantage over the their opponents of the extra rest, Think the Ha will just beat Dun/Ash as they carry a lot of momentum. But Dun/Ash have been round the block a few times and would not be surprised if they win a tight game. Think the Ha's lack of squad depth will cost them as things go on. Also think that they have surprised plenty over the past 3 games. Definitely felt Simonstown took them for granted and from speaking with some in the club they did not take them seriously enough. That certainly wont be happening from hear on in. Kells will ultimately progress.

Summerhill will beat Na Fianna, to much quality and experience not to. Shane Walsh has been a revelation but has a lot of responsibility for someone so young. NaFianna are a coming team but this year is just too soon, even allowing for the trick or 3 that Dudley will have up his sleeve.

Ratoath will beat Skryne, it will be a tough game but its time these lads stood up at the business end of the championship. They seemed to have a lot of lads back for the last couple of rounds.

Dunshaughlin are much improved this year and have some very young very talented forwards along with some old heads, however they are coming up against undoubtedly the best defence in the championship and Simonstowns grunt as much as anything will see them through, They will have too much for Dunshaughlin.



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I think you are spot on in terms of the pairings!

I think Curraha will beat Don/Ash - they have improved game on game. Gotten a few guys back in since the early rounds and are stronger all round than they were against Dunboyne (which they could have won) and Na Fianna (which they should have won)

I think they will really put it up to Kells but ultimately I think Kells have a little bit more experience that will count - especially when matching up the full forward line V the Ha full back line.

I can't call the Na Fianna - Summerhill game. Both have had good performances and both have had poor performances. I think the Hill might just edge it because of their experience over the past 2 years in particular!

I am a big fan of what Anthony Moyles has done at Dunshaughlin but I can't see them beating S'Town. I went to the S'Town Dunboyne game on Sunday last and was really impressed with Simonstown. They have grunt for sure but they also have some very skillful players. Sean Tobin and Nicky O'Brien were exceptional up front. O'Kane plays like a 7th forward! Shane Gallagher played as a type of sweeper and cut off everything into McCarthy, Leneihan and McEntee (david). They are the best team I have seen this year so far!

Skryne have also been hugely inconsisitent! But they were very professional last day out against Dunshaughlin. When everyone else seemed confused about the qualifying process they knew they had to win to qualify! They have that bit of steel about them that comes from tradition! Ratoath are only starting to build a tradition at this level. There only loss this year was by a point to Summerhill and that was down to a last minute goal! They looked good early on without many of their so called star players - now some of those lads are back! Is that a good thing or a bad thing! We'll see. I think this game will be tight and I think it will be a bit of a dog fight! It could be the making of this Ratoath team to win a game like that!


Obviously there is a way to go yet but finding it hard to see beyond a S'Town Kells final - with Simonstown my favourites at this stage!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 13/09/2019 13:40:52    2235011

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "I think you are spot on in terms of the pairings!

I think Curraha will beat Don/Ash - they have improved game on game. Gotten a few guys back in since the early rounds and are stronger all round than they were against Dunboyne (which they could have won) and Na Fianna (which they should have won)

I think they will really put it up to Kells but ultimately I think Kells have a little bit more experience that will count - especially when matching up the full forward line V the Ha full back line.

I can't call the Na Fianna - Summerhill game. Both have had good performances and both have had poor performances. I think the Hill might just edge it because of their experience over the past 2 years in particular!

I am a big fan of what Anthony Moyles has done at Dunshaughlin but I can't see them beating S'Town. I went to the S'Town Dunboyne game on Sunday last and was really impressed with Simonstown. They have grunt for sure but they also have some very skillful players. Sean Tobin and Nicky O'Brien were exceptional up front. O'Kane plays like a 7th forward! Shane Gallagher played as a type of sweeper and cut off everything into McCarthy, Leneihan and McEntee (david). They are the best team I have seen this year so far!

Skryne have also been hugely inconsisitent! But they were very professional last day out against Dunshaughlin. When everyone else seemed confused about the qualifying process they knew they had to win to qualify! They have that bit of steel about them that comes from tradition! Ratoath are only starting to build a tradition at this level. There only loss this year was by a point to Summerhill and that was down to a last minute goal! They looked good early on without many of their so called star players - now some of those lads are back! Is that a good thing or a bad thing! We'll see. I think this game will be tight and I think it will be a bit of a dog fight! It could be the making of this Ratoath team to win a game like that!


Obviously there is a way to go yet but finding it hard to see beyond a S'Town Kells final - with Simonstown my favourites at this stage!"
Agree I think Curraha will beat Don/Ash unless Menton gets the finger out and starts to play. He was very poor against Moynalvey.

Kells will get a contest if it's Curraha though

Summerhill and Na Fianna is interesting. Are Na Fianna poor or did they meet a top side in Simonstown. It looks like the latter and so they will give Summerhill a game for sure. Summerhill good side though

Ratoath and Scrin. I still fancy Scrin now they are in knockout stages . Yes they have been playing poor but you can't put a price on tradition.

Dunshaughlin have improved but they beat a poor O 'Mahonys team who lost Bray early and then they lost to a Scrin team who are playing poorly. Hard to gauge where they are at.

Simonstown have been very impressive. Seem to be really well structured and setup and play at a serious tempo. Look really well coached and could be anything Dunshaughlin could get a lesson and have it all to do

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 14/09/2019 08:15:45    2235147

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