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I agree with you on this. See we can agree
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/06/2019 08:41:33 2196195 Link 0 |
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You seem to LOVE Adam Flanagan in the same as RD LOVES Graham Reilly but there is no way he should be considered full forward. If going that route, throw in Paddy O'Rourke full forward or Shane Walsh but neither are on the panel currently. Of the current panel, Dardis and Newman as a two man full forward line with the two-footed nippy Conlon feeding off them would be the best direct route plan. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 17/06/2019 10:25:04 2196288 Link 16 |
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Also would be massively unfair on the lad himself throwing him in there. Be like throwing mcmahon in full back or newman in corner back. Im not Flanagans biggest fan but he seems like a committed lad and would hate to see him put in that position for it to go belly up which it more than likely would.
Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 17/06/2019 11:07:15 2196315 Link 3 |
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On a separate note. What positions are up for grabs?? Will harnan start if not fully fit? Will Shane mc start,? Conlon has to start, but who is the other in forward line? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/06/2019 11:38:59 2196342 Link 0 |
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cause mayo have far more about them and were plying their trade at the top table of league football consistently with an experienced squad who had won all Ireland quarter finals and semi finals, and had some much better footballers than Meath, and for all that, despite outplaying us most of the time in those games, how many did they win ? They haven't beaten Dublin in league or championship since 2012, and this is a mayo team who at their peak were far superior to any Meath team ive seen in the last … 15 years or so. Meath can get stuck in, But I just don't see a world where Meath are good enough. I respect the lads on here who say Meath have a chance and all that stuff, no point in not believing, the players will believe but then so will almost every team who come up against Dublin believe that they can beat us, it means nothing, Dublin generally just swat them aside. Dublins run is coming to an end, indeed youre right, with every win, were closer to defeat, but its not coming this sunday. I expect Dublin to beat the handicap again and then I expect Meath to reach the super 8s waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/06/2019 12:18:02 2196387 Link 18 |
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We will put it up to the Dubs, there is no doubt about that, we can all admit this. If we get on the scoreboard 1st and crack a few into the onion sack and stop the Dubs early on from getting ahead, lads...i reckon we will do this. Margin be tight, but in all honesty if Mayo can put it up to them why the hell cant we??? Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 17/06/2019 13:00:47 2196446 Link 0 |
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He is impossible to mark. And the good thing was when Laois eventually realized he was so dangerous they tried to take him out of game. He got up shock himself down and went again. He is one tough little guy.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/06/2019 13:42:27 2196491 Link 0 |
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I like Conlon. but dont expect to much from him if he plays against Dublin. He is small, They will push him off the ball and get away with it, I am afraid.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 17/06/2019 13:53:45 2196498 Link 0 |
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Great little player, but the dubs won't mark him any different to anyone else, they'll just cut off the supply into him, that's what they do, Lord possession, get numbers back to protect full back line....he will be living off scraps unfortunetely
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 17/06/2019 13:59:58 2196501 Link 20 |
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If all available I would pick southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 17/06/2019 14:05:14 2196504 Link 18 |
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1 intercounty start against laois and youre building him up to be gooch cooper. you fellas are so deluded. Nothing wrong with thinking you guys can beat us, or give us a hell of a rattle, but building a young lad up like this without even being tested or having played consistently for the senior team from the start is unbelievable. Its alright doing it for the club against a load of fellas who aren't of a senior intercounty standard, its another ball game doing it in croke park in front of 50,000 against the best team of all time who will have studied Meath to the absolute letter leaving no stone unturned in the preparation. Impossible to mark ? These Dublin defenders have countless all Irelands, ridiculous amount of experience and know how of how to stop or at least hinder an opposition forward, they've played against Gooch cooper, Donaghy, Oconnor, Oshea, Cavanagh, shane walsh, etc etc etc over the years, they certainly wont be overly stressed about this kid who has played one senior game. And anyway, doesn't matter if he is unmarkable if he isn't getting service or if you don't have the ball. Comparing meath with mayo and how they performed against us is gas. Mayo are a team who have won their province, beaten Kerry, tyrone, Donegal etc in recent years in the championship, and are the longest serving D1 team. Meath haven't even been in the top division for the last decade, and in both d2 league games against Donegal, lost. including a final in croke park where you lost a 7 point lead. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/06/2019 14:11:30 2196509 Link 15 |
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exactly this. very talented, you have to be to get into a senior ic team at 20. But Dublin will be sayin, don't stop him when he has the ball, don't allow him to get it in the first place. what you say is exactly how I see it going, Dublin will own the ball, Meath will try keep it tight, Newman and conlon will be totally isolated, Dublin will sweep up every attack, will have very few wides themselves, be economical in possession, manage the game, and dispose of the meath challenge like they've disposed of most challenges in the past 5 years. All the chat about Meath starting well and trying to make Dublin worry, fine, do it... Noone will be worrying, Weve gone 0-06 to 0-01 down in an all Ireland final last year against a much better team, and comfortably battered them. We conceded 3 goals v Kerry in 2013 in the first half of an all Ireland semi final, came back and beat them. We where 4 down in an all Ireland final a few years ago against Mayo midway through the second half and beat them. These lads will expect a fast Meath start, and wont be swayed by conceding a goal. Just like the league final against Donegal, If meath get a good lead, Dublin will just keep believing in the process. How will Meath react if they concede a goal or two early doors though, when was the last time they came up against a top D1 team in the summer in croke park ? you may be running around like rabid dogs for the first 20 minutes, you might throw a few digs, act the tough lads, but the dubs are far far too streetwise for that carry on. And my confidence stems from watching Dublin all year every year home and away, and the fact there is no way jim gavin wont give Meath his and his teams, time. Dublin will learn more about Meath in 2 weeks than any ordinary match going fan like myself, RD etc would learn in a couple of months. For all the talk about being ready for Dublin, the best team of all time will be more than ready too waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/06/2019 14:28:57 2196533 Link 18 |
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If all fit and available Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 17/06/2019 14:38:42 2196538 Link 0 |
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Wayno what is your deal lad ? why do you feel the need to come on here and dissect every post. You obviously know your football and can be hilarious with some of your posts but jesus in your last few posts on here come across unbelievably arrogant. On one hand you say you respect that some meath fans believe we can win but then you go onto basically belittle any post that suggests meath have a chance. I do understand there are some delusional meath fans here and i agree with you on the over the top building up of conlon but this is a forum so there is obvioulsy going to be 100s of different opinions varying from sensible to bizarre. Myself i dont think Meath have much hope on Sunday, I think we'll struggle to cover the handicap but i'll still be there. and from now until then the old romantic in me will try and find a way of Meath beating the Dubs in my head. Of course you as well are entitled to your opinion on Sunday and im not knocking that , Its more the arrogance of the posts and the condescending attitude towards the hope of others. All comes across very imperialistic. Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 106 - 17/06/2019 15:14:57 2196559 Link 4 |
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Very insecure. Might have some issues as apparently he lives in Meath. Why doesn't he just live in Dublin?
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 17/06/2019 15:26:04 2196570 Link 19 |
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To be fair, we get ahead early and Dublin will reel us in (unless we go unrealistically far ahead). We went 8 up early on against Donegal and couldn't get the job done and I'd wager that Dublin would easily beat them. On the other hand, we keep it competitive for 50-60 minutes and we're dealing with the fittest team in the country who have scored 4-9 and 15 points in the second half of their two games and can kick points from pretty much any angle inside the 45. I've no doubt the players will give it their all and that's literally all any of us can ask of them. But whatever way you look at it, I don't see how anyone can foresee us winning unfortunately. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 17/06/2019 15:42:12 2196584 Link 18 |
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Modern footballers are all about "performing" and "trusting the process". When we were winning back in the 80's and 90's it was much more about belief and aggression (and obviously a good dollop of talent). Roscommon looked dead and buried at half time - came out like a different team in the second half and completely turned it around. So what happened at half time? Was Cunningham banging on about hitting lads or having belief? No. All the players that gave interviews after said that he boiled it down to brass tacks in terms of reverting to the style of play that helped them beat Mayo (strong running essentially). I expect the exact same messages are coming from McEntee and Nally - believe in the process that got us promotion and to a Leinster final. Personally, I was involved in teams in a different era from any of the guys that are playing now and I suspect a large majority on this forum were likewise. The reality is that most of us haven't directly experienced that way of approaching performance so most of us are actually not qualified to say how they should or will approach the Dubs. It's just a different way of thinking. The players could come off the pitch on Sunday after losing by 15 points but if they have followed the process and hit their KPI's, management will have no complaints. It actually removes the whole intangible element of being "up for it". In my opinion, it is also the reason why we increasingly see players being reluctant to change tack when what they are doing isn't working - it's been drilled into them not to deviate from the plan. Bottom line is that Dublin's process and their KPI's are probably at a more evolved level than ours right now - run the numbers and Dublin come out on top. That may change over time but not overnight and not this Sunday. Would love to think otherwise but that's not how the modern game works. gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 17/06/2019 16:05:03 2196609 Link 0 |
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Careful there lad, youll be hunted down with pitchforks on here for having a realistic pragmatic approach to Sunday's game...... if ya don't want your opinion shot down and your loyalty to meath questioned, id change your view to a more meath-centric one if I were you
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 17/06/2019 16:15:46 2196620 Link 20 |
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Not a hope of changing me. And you right I don't give a boiled s###e what anyone thinks of , especially on a forum. That been said nothing pleases me more than the red thumbs, the more I get the more I know I am annoying people (hoping for at least 7 on this one. Been like this all my life. But you have given me a idea about the plane !!!!! . Lightbulb. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/06/2019 16:29:17 2196630 Link 0 |
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As a point of interest, how do you lads think Meath will approach the game tactically? Will they sit back and try defend as tigerishly as possible around the 45 metre - D area as teams such as Tyrone and Donegal have tried? Then try to strike on the counter if possible through the half-backs (our biggest threat) at pace, will they go man-to-man and have a jaunt old fashioned style, as particularly Mayo and Kerry have done in recent years past? Will they try implement the use of early long ball to Newman, Conlon, Dardis, O'Reilly up front as in the movement that led to the goal v. Donegal from the league final, the same old school high ball tactic gave Kildare opportunity which they didnt capitalise upon... will they be instructed to tear lumps out of them early to disrupt the game as much as possible and rattle cages? obviously most of these elements are present in recent months in this Meath side but can be less or more prevalent depending on the opposition. Will they allow Dublin to keep possession up until the point-scoring danger zone and filter back to apply pressure or will they contest all areas of the pitch, as Ive seen Meath do both depending on the opposition ? What will the actual plan be? Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 17/06/2019 18:30:04 2196706 Link 19 |