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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Positive news today with the qualifier draw. The 4 best teams drawing each other. This is huge.

Kildare vs Tyrone
Mayo vs Armagh
Westmeath vs Clare
Offaly vs Laois

We have a 50/50 chance of getting the winners of
Westmeath vs Clare
Offaly vs Laois

I'll be up on the hill of Tara praying when next Mondays draw is made. I wouldn't write off Armagh or Kildare either who we shouldn't fear.

I know we are in a dark place now but look at the positives. We have a great chance of making the Super 8's."
We can't draw Offaly/Laois as we have already played them which means there is a 66% chance of drawing one of Kildare/Tyrone/Mayo/Armagh which will be a tough draw in a neutral venue. Not trying to be negative but to get to the super 8s, chances are that we'll have to do it the hard way.

gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 24/06/2019 13:34:41    2199896

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Does anyone else think that McEntee's persistent comment of 'The result wont define our season' set the tone for the game ? He's admitting before the game that we won't beat Dublin.

Madog (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 24/06/2019 13:38:28    2199902

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Replying To Reco:  "Brian Hanlon Kells"
I don't how many times his name has been mentioned in conversation on these boards. He's a classy player but maybe it's a case of him not wanting to play for the county? He was a Meath minor before Shane O'Rourke' good team (2005?) so he's pushing on as well.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 24/06/2019 13:52:45    2199915

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Replying To Ibbecek:  "Brian o'Hanlon, P.O'Rourke and P'McKeever are the three best forwards in Meath by a country mile.

For various reasons none are on the panel."
Agree , these 3 lads are better than what is playing for sure. Imagine firing in high ball to o Rourke at 6ft 7 Instead of 5ft 6. But it's either they don't want to play for Meath or they don't want to play for McEntee.

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 24/06/2019 14:10:14    2199934

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I seen Beano in action over the last number of season working for Lar Wall . If there's a better forward in Meath at present , I'd be surprised . Don't get me wrong , I'm not a bring Colm O Rourke , Bernard Flynn outta retirement type of guy , but Brian Hanlon has pace to Burn , and a physicality that allows him to power past players intent on stopping him ....

And he scores as well .regularly ..... And I'm not from Kells .

Looking at the forwards and the half forwards and the midfield areas , there is a lot of scope for improvement ......
Whats the Harm , anyway , shuh didn't we meet our objectives.

Confidence comes from people instilling confidenc in you . All I heard in the last number of weeks is that we will try to put in a performance ...... Would that instill confidence in any team that its been said about ........

How many times were we turned over , and who was turned over most in the team - I'm sure the Statisticans can tell us that ... taking the ball into contact against the likes of Dublin is madness but we still tried to do it . We gave away ball , missed opportunities , Kicked the ball away , etc. so In truth we forgot to do the basics well , Oh sorry don't forget throwing away possession on the 21m line due to petulance after been awarded a free ...... With all those things going wrong for us , is it a wonder that the day ended on a damper .......

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 24/06/2019 14:15:21    2199939

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Replying To Madog:  "Does anyone else think that McEntee's persistent comment of 'The result wont define our season' set the tone for the game ? He's admitting before the game that we won't beat Dublin."
Sure everyone knew we wouldn't beat Dublin and anyone who thought we would is delusional. Pretty sure andy and the players knew it also but just couldn't say it out loud like we can. And he's 100% right that game wasn't going to and will not define our season. Promotion to Division 1 and Super 8 football if we get there is the best anyone could have hoped for and I'm pretty sure if we were offered that in January every single meath supporter player and management would have snapped the hand off whoever was offering it. Andy saying the game won't define our season didnt make the lads underperform in front of the posts and didn't lose us the game. We lost because Dublin are 3 or 4 levels above us at this moment in time.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 24/06/2019 14:15:32    2199941

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Replying To royaldunne:  "At home now jerseys all lined up ready for tomorrow, we have had some people call this years division 2 poor. Look at Armagh, look at corks performance, look at Clare (albeit against a division 4 team) look at donegal, we topped the bloody league. Now none of them have faced what we face tomorrow, but by Jesus we are ready and rearing to go. WE CAN DO THIS
HON THE ROYAL."
just a query royal dunne will you shortly start supporting your adopted county . we have the momentum and if and when we beat clare hopefully we meet yee and put yee away for the summer . to only score 4 points in nearly 80 minutes of a game of f ootball is pathetic and any other conclusion is highly delusional . i await what i expect what will be a considered reply as most of your commets are always well constructed

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1802 - 24/06/2019 14:34:36    2199956

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Agree , these 3 lads are better than what is playing for sure. Imagine firing in high ball to o Rourke at 6ft 7 Instead of 5ft 6. But it's either they don't want to play for Meath or they don't want to play for McEntee."
6ft 7. Paddy must have grown a couple of inches over the last few months. And he was tried before at full forward for Meath Seniors and couldn't hack it. Mckeever i agree could have been a really good forward for the county but walked out on the panel very late in the day leading up to championship last year so he won't be back. Hanlon i don't know what his story is but anytime i see him play he impresses me

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 24/06/2019 14:36:26    2199958

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Whats the difference between me and Meath. I drank more pints yesterday than Meath scored. Jesus christ 4 pts for the while game
Whats goin on lads??

sandyBeach (Louth) - Posts: 269 - 24/06/2019 14:40:56    2199962

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Replying To gwanyagudthing:  "We can't draw Offaly/Laois as we have already played them which means there is a 66% chance of drawing one of Kildare/Tyrone/Mayo/Armagh which will be a tough draw in a neutral venue. Not trying to be negative but to get to the super 8s, chances are that we'll have to do it the hard way."
Is that true? As Offaly played us in the preliminary round can't they get us again?

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/06/2019 14:43:26    2199966

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Agree , these 3 lads are better than what is playing for sure. Imagine firing in high ball to o Rourke at 6ft 7 Instead of 5ft 6. But it's either they don't want to play for Meath or they don't want to play for McEntee."
Paddy was in Croke Park yesterday - as a spectator! So were David and Stephen Bray and Conor Gillespie from Summerhill! We had a half decent team in the stands!!

I don't like being critical of the team or management - they put in such a huge effort and give a huge amount of time to the cause with little reward. I can guarantee you the ones who feel most down about the game yesterday were the management and players!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 24/06/2019 15:38:58    2200007

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Is that true? As Offaly played us in the preliminary round can't they get us again?"
From wikipedia: "In the fourth round of the qualifiers, the four winning teams from round 3 play the four beaten provincial finalists. Round 4 draw rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided. The matches are normally held in neutral venues. The four winners of these matches play the provincial champions in the All-Ireland quarter-finals."

Media coverage of round 4 draw last year also mentions certain fixtures that couldn't happen due to having met already in provincials.

Unless the rules have changed since, we can't play Laois or Offaly. Similarly, Armagh can't play Cavan.

gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 24/06/2019 15:44:42    2200010

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Replying To Reco:  "Do the management have any faith in our panel it doesn't look like it from what I seen.
Backs is sorted lets get forwards we need men now not boys."
Yea i think the faith is there Reco, we get the forwards to an A1 level, we are going to be a very strong team, once we can produce scores on the board that is. We have the making on a superb team when those forwards are sorted....Backs were magnificent, you couldnt fault them yesterday. That replay is going to be watched til its worn out..i hope...

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 24/06/2019 15:59:52    2200015

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Agree , these 3 lads are better than what is playing for sure. Imagine firing in high ball to o Rourke at 6ft 7 Instead of 5ft 6. But it's either they don't want to play for Meath or they don't want to play for McEntee."
We need the likes of O Rourke, does anyone think there would ever be a chance that Andy would go begging or maybe any chance Paddy would accept and come with tail between the legs??
Please Paddy! All is forgiven!!!!!!

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 24/06/2019 16:03:03    2200017

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "We need the likes of O Rourke, does anyone think there would ever be a chance that Andy would go begging or maybe any chance Paddy would accept and come with tail between the legs??
Please Paddy! All is forgiven!!!!!!"
We need him for in the goals. Thats it. Got his chance outfield and couldn't cut it at inter county level. Goes into the book of very very very good Club Players who couldn't make the step up!

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 24/06/2019 16:13:57    2200020

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Replying To mmc:  "Rescue ??
A sad day for Meath football and our sideline can take a lot of the blame .
How he thought Conlon could do a job inside mainly on his own is amazing all the ball we had and we never tried to test the Dublin fullback with direct ball !! What was Newman at again we won more ball yesterday around the middle than I expected turned over ball but then went sideways we had no one inside to kick it too ??
As for our kickouts after 3 years in charge we are still all over the place hit and hope the majority of times .
We played better than the final score suggests but the same failings continue in every game which is disappointing you'll get away with them against poor div 2 & 3 teams but not div 1 teams .
Give Mcentee credit for putting a bit of steel back in the Jersey but a long way from been rescued"
Yes look where O'Dowd had us. We now in division one. And had one bad extremely bad game against the greatest team of all time. Thank god for Andy rescued us from the abyss

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/06/2019 16:21:31    2200028

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "We need the likes of O Rourke, does anyone think there would ever be a chance that Andy would go begging or maybe any chance Paddy would accept and come with tail between the legs??
Please Paddy! All is forgiven!!!!!!"
This by the way is scarcasim....i dont think we need POR Back on our team. The like of Mckeever is where we need to be looking. Anyone know his story??

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 24/06/2019 16:32:00    2200036

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Paddy doesn't want to commit and I suspect the reason being he doesn't believe they will beat Dublin again in his career. And if you can't beat Dublin you have to provincial honors to play for. You have to respect the man's decision and appreciate he still fully commits to his club. So he hasn't turned his back on the GAA.

As a meath supporter the notion we will beat Dublin in Leinster over the next 10 years doesn't cross my mind. For me the best I hope for is winning a league title or making an all Ireland semi final and winning it. We're a long way off that but last year Tyrone and Monaghan contested one semi final in a 50/50 game. I dream of the day we can be in a fixture like that again.

Unfortunately we can't face the winner of Laois/Offaly. Maybe we'll get lucky and get the winner of Westmeath/Clare but chances are it will be Mayo and I suspect Kildare. No matter who it is it will make my year as a Meath supporter if we can win this match and get another 3 matches against top opposition. That's the prep we need before playing in Division 1 next year. Hosting a top team in a packed out Navan would be a proud day.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/06/2019 16:38:23    2200043

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Yes look where O'Dowd had us. We now in division one. And had one bad extremely bad game against the greatest team of all time. Thank god for Andy rescued us from the abyss
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15373 - 24/06/2019 16:21:31

This is very inaccurate. Criticising O dowd without basis. Meath got a good championship run under him, Were unfortunate not to go further , Had Tyrone beat only for blatant cheating and local referee decisions. Also were denied Div 2 win by bad luck.
You must be a very spiteful man

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 24/06/2019 16:57:38    2200058

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Paddy doesn't want to commit and I suspect the reason being he doesn't believe they will beat Dublin again in his career. And if you can't beat Dublin you have to provincial honors to play for. You have to respect the man's decision and appreciate he still fully commits to his club. So he hasn't turned his back on the GAA.

As a meath supporter the notion we will beat Dublin in Leinster over the next 10 years doesn't cross my mind. For me the best I hope for is winning a league title or making an all Ireland semi final and winning it. We're a long way off that but last year Tyrone and Monaghan contested one semi final in a 50/50 game. I dream of the day we can be in a fixture like that again.

Unfortunately we can't face the winner of Laois/Offaly. Maybe we'll get lucky and get the winner of Westmeath/Clare but chances are it will be Mayo and I suspect Kildare. No matter who it is it will make my year as a Meath supporter if we can win this match and get another 3 matches against top opposition. That's the prep we need before playing in Division 1 next year. Hosting a top team in a packed out Navan would be a proud day."
Would you go jack?

Monkeycatcher (Meath) - Posts: 155 - 24/06/2019 17:49:44    2200103

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