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Well done to all concerned massive win for the county. Listened on the radio and can't help but feel disappointed in how we let kildare put some respectability on the scoreboard we should have won by 16 points instead by 8. Need to be ruthless against Derry

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 21/07/2018 15:22:54    2124274

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jeez well done to the minor team today

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 822 - 21/07/2018 15:26:20    2124278

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Absolutely bloody fantastic.
Long time since I left any Meath game this proud. Well done to all concerned.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16073 - 21/07/2018 16:15:41    2124292

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Well done to all concerned massive win for the county. Listened on the radio and can't help but feel disappointed in how we let kildare put some respectability on the scoreboard we should have won by 16 points instead by 8. Need to be ruthless against Derry"
First Leinster in 10 years, winning every game very convincingly (bar wicklow and we all know why) .....give them a break.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 661 - 21/07/2018 16:18:07    2124294

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Absolutely delighted with the result, very well done to all involved, couldn't be prouder of the lads. They've brought genuine success to a county that has been completely starved of it for the best part of a decade.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8275 - 21/07/2018 16:23:20    2124296

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great win a great day where is all the Meath supporters gone disappointing to be out numbered by Kildare

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 21/07/2018 16:47:38    2124303

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Well done to Meath today by far the better team. Have gone to nearly all our games including today and did not see this much of a margin coming. Expected Meath to win based on Wicklow results where Meath played a second string and lost narrowly while it took Kildare two games to beat them. Thought we'd be a lot closer but we never got going today. Hopefully we both progress from here.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1589 - 21/07/2018 16:54:28    2124304

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "First Leinster in 10 years, winning every game very convincingly (bar wicklow and we all know why) .....give them a break."
Haha some people will jump at any chance to play the martyr and grab a few likes. To try and create a situation to make it look as if I'm in any way criticizing this team is low as No one is as big a fan of this team as me I'm delighted. I was referring to the fact that we lay off the gas in the last 20 minutes we must be ruthless as there could be more than just a Leinster in this team if we are

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 21/07/2018 17:15:13    2124310

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Replying To meath1977:  "great win a great day where is all the Meath supporters gone disappointing to be out numbered by Kildare"
Interesting...I thought there was more from Meath.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1589 - 21/07/2018 17:19:04    2124311

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Great result and badly needed, well done to all concerned

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1264 - 21/07/2018 17:27:30    2124313

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Really really easy win, by far the better team. It is back to back age groups with Leinster wins. The 00's in the under 17 last year and the 01's today. Really great signs. Our full forward line is incredibly dangerous. Here are some great stats for Meath's future. Cian McBride has played 10 Leinster championship games, 10 wins (2 over Kildare, 3 over Dublin) and 2 titles. The same for Matthew Costello except 9 wins from 9. Really exceptional stuff

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 650 - 21/07/2018 17:29:44    2124314

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Haha some people will jump at any chance to play the martyr and grab a few likes. To try and create a situation to make it look as if I'm in any way criticizing this team is low as No one is as big a fan of this team as me I'm delighted. I was referring to the fact that we lay off the gas in the last 20 minutes we must be ruthless as there could be more than just a Leinster in this team if we are"
Well done Meath.

I agree should be more ruthless and make a statement. I too was listening on the radio and it was clear the foot went off the gas in the closing stages.

However, you should never let a team put 1-3 on you without reply irrespective of time or leading margin - it may come back to bite them if the foot comes off the throat!

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 718 - 21/07/2018 18:22:27    2124330

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Its a fair point about killing the game. But they are very young footballers whose game management would still be developing. Secondly kildare are the second best team in the provience and have been the top team at minor for leinster in last couple of years. They were always going to be threat at sometime. So I wouldnt be to hard on them.

Overall they are a very young exciting modern new Meath team that in my view could be the best underage team to come out of the county since the 90s. Time will tell. U never know with underage teams. Every county has had the "we are strong at minor or under 21 team team this year". And the team falters or fails afterwards . But this team I would say after kerry would have to be contenders to reach the final. Derry will be tough. In that Ulster opposition at underage is always decent. But this team has it in them to be playing in the All Ireland final. A final appearance or even a title win would give for football in the county a seriously good boost.

What I like about them. Is they are a big team. To many Meath teams at underage and senior have been small in stature in last 15 years. They are also an Atletic team. Another thing I always feel we sometimes are definitely behind Dublin and also behind kildare since 2010 in Atleticism terms. The backs r good. The forwards are very very good. But midfield cud be the key. I think we have struggled in this area at all levels recently. But with young McBride I doubt there is better midfielder at this age group in the country. Again today he lorded at midfield t. Everything must be done by county board to keep Auzzie rules from getting him. We lost Nash , but to lose McBride as well would be a massive serious blow.

Definatly we r improving at underage. There was a serious gap for 4 or 5 year between us and Dublin and kildare teams. We couldn't beat both at underage. Dublin and kildare were ahead of us at underage. Particularly kildare. But at this age group in last 2 years minor ( under 17) ,we have defeated Dublin by 7 points in 2017 leinster final and kildare by 8 points in todays leinster final..We are strongest at this age group in leinster by a distance. Now we need to translate this into leinster under 20 title in next 2 to 3 years.

We should have done better at under 20 year. Full of players who defeated Dublin at minor and other players which won the first new minor leinster grade last year. We defeated kildare in early stages of leinster at under 20 this year. And then we were hammered by Dublin. That makes no football sense. Our under 20s hammered Dublin at minor age, we defeat kildare . ans yet kildare hammer Dublin. But Dublin hammer us. It makes little football sense whatsoever .

I think there is little between Meath under 20 and kildare under 20. We beat them this year. And lost by 1 point ay minor level in extra time in a cracking game of football two years. If kildare are hammering Dublin. Meath shouldn't have been hammered by Dublin.

It must be said kildare have got a bounce from NewbridgeorNowhere for all their county teams in recent weeks. And this is a very impressive kildare team. Players like Hyland are exceptional talents and are as good as I have ever seen come out of kildare. But we were very tactically unaware v Dublin and kildare teams. Dublin teams at under 21 and under 20 play a system similar to the seniors. They are well.organised and well drilled. Our tactics were awful v the Dubs.

I hope next someone like Graham Geraghty is put in charge of our under 20s. Keep Joe Tranor at under 17. Thats what all the other sucessful counties do at underage. Brian Murphy stayed minor kildare manager for a few years. In any other county Geraghty would have been made underage manager. He is a legend , our most talented player ever. But also has a good wide ranging CV. He works with young people in his professional life. He hasnt managed not at the top level but at other levels. He has inter county experience ( selector with Meath seniors, forward coach with Longford seniors under Glen Ryan), club level ( managed a small club with resources at senior level well) and college ( managed Blanchardstown IT to Trench Cup , second third level trophy after Sigerson).

He wants to be senior Meath manager. I believe he has potential to be a really good manager. But he should now be brought in as underage Meath manager. Thats what kerry or Dublin would do. Instead in Meath we will probaly make him senior manager first. First he should be given opportunity at underage level. Imagine these minor footballers next year playing in a under 20 leinster championship v Dublin or kildare managed by Graham Geraghty. Its a no brainer. Surely theres someone in the county board who can see this.

Anyway it is good to see we are slowly improving at minor age. We need to keep being strong at minor and we need to win a title at under 20 level. But if people say we are not showing signs of improvement at underage level they are wrong. In last three years we have beaten Dublin 4 times at minor level ( 2016 minor, twice in 2017 at new minor level (U 17) and this year minor (U17)). We defeated kildare at minor and under 20 level this year. And have put 2 minor (U17) leinster titles back to back. The gap between us and Dublin and kildare has completely closed and we have overtaken them at minor. 1 or 2 more minor leinster title in next 3 to 4 years. Is what we should be looking for. And we badly need 1 leinster title at under 20. We havent won leinster title at around this grade since 2001 when we won leinster under 21 title. We have played in 1 leinster under 21 final in 17 years. Shocking stuff. Its very disappointing that we had sucessful strong minors in the last two years at under 20/ under 21 and we didnt even reach a leinster final. That needs to change. Thats the next step. Sucess at under 20. Appointing Graham Geraghty Under 20 manager next year would be a step in the right direction. We need to give these young minors all the opportunity to suceed at under 20. If they are 7 points ahead of Dublin at under 17 level in 2017 and 8 points ahead of kildare at under 17 level in 2018 in 2019 our 20s shouldn't be hammered by Dublin or kildare. And should be getting to leinster final and contenders for a title. They actually should be winning leinster under 20 title next year. But that has been an issue for us in last few years. If kildare and Dublin won two under 17 titles so well I would back them for those players to win Under 20. We need to follow that. At the moment we r failing at under 21/ under 20 level for years. Hopefully today is a beginning not another false start.

Anyway well done to our minors. You have done ur county proud. And u r a wonderful young team. That have all the attributes we look for in Meath footballers. You r talented. But brave also. An All Ireland title cud be urs. But the main thing is we see in a few years time players like McBride and Costello and co playing for Meath seniors and performing v the Dubs and kildare like you have done so well this year.

Onwards and upwards. The Meath fightback v the Dubs has begun. Its a long road ahead. But hopefully we are climbing back up the ladder and the future Royals we saw today will see us come roaring back at senior level at the Dubs in the coming years.

Meath leinster football Minor Champions 2018. Well done.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 860 - 21/07/2018 20:18:29    2124358

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I hope next someone like Graham Geraghty is put in charge of our under 20s. . In any other county Geraghty would have been made underage manager. He is a legend , our most talented player ever. But also has a good wide ranging CV. He works with young people in his professional life. He hasnt managed not at the top level but at other levels. He has inter county experience ( selector with Meath seniors, forward coach with Longford seniors under Glen Ryan), club level ( managed a small club with resources at senior level well) and college ( managed Blanchardstown IT to Trench Cup , second third level trophy after Sigerson).

Great player but a good manager hmmmmm i dont think so that all, Seen him in action a good few times

Bad move im thinking

dnewlad (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 21/07/2018 20:46:28    2124371

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Geraghty a legend no doubt but I wouldn't let him near intercounty management.

Today was all about the future and these lads don't need to look to the past as they clearly have the cojones to forge their own destiny. Well done to team and management. Hopefully we see structures in place to bring these lads on even further.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1602 - 21/07/2018 20:59:06    2124382

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Furlong I am very disappointed in your post, normally they are well researched and I agree with nearly everything you say but why on Earth should Geraghty be brought in as underage manager? You named some of the experience he has but has he ever done in a coaching/management position? One club in Meath and another in Louth didn't go too well.

Just to congratulate players but especially management, you can see this team is well coached and play as a team, something which has not been seen in any Meath set up in the last number of years,

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 646 - 21/07/2018 21:35:41    2124398

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- In last three years we have beaten Dublin 4 times at minor level ( 2016 minor, twice in 2017 at new minor level (U 17) and this year minor (U17)).

- We hammered Dublin by 10 points at minor in 2016, We defeat Dublin by 7 points in last years minor ( Under 17 leinter final) and defeated Dublin in early part of the same leinster championship. We defeated Dublin in this years minor leinster championship. And in last years leinster minor championship ( U18) we were 10 points up v Dublin at half time, but lost in extra by point after great Dublin comeback.

- We defeated kildare at minor and under 20 level this year. ( Its years since we did that. Kildare have been a real nemesis for us at underage level recently)

- And we have put 2 minor (U17) leinster titles back to back.

- This is our firsr minor leinster title in 10 years and the first time since the 90s we have put underage title back to back (Under 17 leinster ( minor 2017) and Under 17 leinster ( minor 2018).

We r improving at udnerage. But U20 leinster title next year has to be massive priority.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 860 - 21/07/2018 21:45:06    2124402

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Replying To Barney123:  "Furlong I am very disappointed in your post, normally they are well researched and I agree with nearly everything you say but why on Earth should Geraghty be brought in as underage manager? You named some of the experience he has but has he ever done in a coaching/management position? One club in Meath and another in Louth didn't go too well.

Just to congratulate players but especially management, you can see this team is well coached and play as a team, something which has not been seen in any Meath set up in the last number of years,"
Ok Its just a personal choice. My fear is he will get the senior job in coming years with no experience. Yes his CV is not top level. But I think he should be given a top club job in Meath or should have been given underage job in the last few years. Its a personal viewpoint. I think he has something. But maybe not. The issue for some bizzare reason is we dont produce many top class managers or coachs. Galway and Cork are other counties that have had the same problem. People with potential should be identifiied and given experience. I dont think Farrell should be manager next year. Callaghan was over two good underage teams and couldnt get eitheir of them to leinster final. Treanor should stay at Under 17. Bring on the next players at minor. I dont know who should be Under 20 manager. My proposal is Geraghty. But it seems he is still decisive figure. My fear is like this year we have strong under 20 team next year which doesnt even get to leinster final.

Anyway I shouldnt have taken the thread in a different direction. Its about our minors. They have done the county proud. And our beacon of hope for the future of Meath football. Congratulations. This team will be very difficult to beat in rest of this compettion. Best underage Meath team I have seen in years.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 860 - 21/07/2018 21:54:02    2124408

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Well done to all concerned massive win for the county. Listened on the radio and can't help but feel disappointed in how we let kildare put some respectability on the scoreboard we should have won by 16 points instead by 8. Need to be ruthless against Derry"
My god what a ridiculous post . They won a Leinster minor final by 8 points and ur complaining about them not being ruthless.. They were ruthless. Absolutely ruthless to be exact. So ruthless that they killed the game and had it won by half time. Did u ever stop to consider that maybe with game won they took their foot off the pedal and starting conserving energy and minding themselves with a view to the derry game next weekend.. My god people are hard to please

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 21/07/2018 21:56:10    2124412

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Haha some people will jump at any chance to play the martyr and grab a few likes. To try and create a situation to make it look as if I'm in any way criticizing this team is low as No one is as big a fan of this team as me I'm delighted. I was referring to the fact that we lay off the gas in the last 20 minutes we must be ruthless as there could be more than just a Leinster in this team if we are"
Thats exactly what you did . U criticized them for only winning by 8 instead of 16 and for easing up the last 20 minutes. The game was won and they've an All Ireland 1/4 final next weekend so of course their gonna ease up. No use beating Kildare by 16 points if it meant we lost 1 or 2 lads to injury for next weekend because they were flying into 50/50 tackles They really didn't need to be flying into. A bit of common sense there fella.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 21/07/2018 22:03:23    2124420

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