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Don't think it would be any harm if Biggy was a sub for a while. Seeing he's not a cert to start every game might kickstart his form.

leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 29/01/2018 10:56:05    2071817

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Colgan
Lavin
McGill
M Burke
Keoghan
Power
Conlon
Flanagan
Rooney
J McEntee
Menton
O'Sullivan
Joey Wallace
S tobin
McKeever

I take it Lenihan is out for a good stint ? if its true about a small operation on his knee. I would use Sean Tobin as a target man rather COS. I prefer COS out the field where he is a work horse. I think Biggy offered little the last two games caused a bit of trouble running at teams but other than that poor.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 29/01/2018 11:02:15    2071820

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Eamon Wallace made a huge difference when he came on
Ran at Roscommon and scored a vital goal that ultimately earned us a point from this match
He did make the wrong decision when he drop the ball into the goalie hands but he was in the right place at the right time
So I see him starting ahead of O Rielly next week
The other change I'd make is McKeever for Brennan
And give biggy another chance in front of a home crowd

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 29/01/2018 11:19:44    2071838

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Eamon Wallace made a huge difference when he came on
Ran at Roscommon and scored a vital goal that ultimately earned us a point from this match
He did make the wrong decision when he drop the ball into the goalie hands but he was in the right place at the right time
So I see him starting ahead of O Rielly next week
The other change I'd make is McKeever for Brennan
And give biggy another chance in front of a home crowd"
The only problem with giving Biggy another chance against waht is a very poor Clare team is that I can see him tearing Clare apart like last eyar and all of a sudden people think hes a world beater again. He has a serious talent and I actually think he could be used brilliantly off the bench against teams when the games have opened up and he is fresh against a tired team.

Colgan
Lavin
McGill
Keoghan
Conaln
Power
S McEntee/Burke
Flanagan
Menton
J McEntee
Brennan (Needs a big improvement to keep the jersey past this game)
O Sullivan
J Wallace
McKeever
McMahon

Then you have Tobin, E Wallace and Biggy to bring on from the bench. This is assuming that Lenihan is definitely out injured. Even if Gallagher is back fit he won't be brought back in straight away he will be used as a sub first to build match fitness etc

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 29/01/2018 11:42:48    2071852

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Reilly needs to spend a bit of time on the bench. However i do agree i would tell him it is last chance saloon next week for him. Brennan, not a chance should he start next week and Conlon needs to be at 6. Everyone would have taken a point beforehand so now a win on Sunday at home should be straightforward. It is a 20 man game so really if Tobin starts or Wallace is really irrelevant. Would really like to see Rooney getting more time as ideally you could get Rooney, Menton and Flanagan into the team as we are too small.

pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 29/01/2018 11:47:39    2071857

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Not really sure where everyones wanting for Power to be dropped from 6 is coming from?! I thought he played well enough and the 2 heavy tackles he put in were last man effort stopping what would have been 1 on 1 situations, very good fouls to give considering the situtaion. Conlon was 6 against Lonford and it didn't work out. Now one bad game doesn't make a bad player and Conlon has serious potential but he played wing back when he came on against Roscommon and did extremely well from there, why not start him there so against Clare?

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 29/01/2018 12:20:47    2071882

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Eamon Wallace made a huge difference when he came on
Ran at Roscommon and scored a vital goal that ultimately earned us a point from this match
He did make the wrong decision when he drop the ball into the goalie hands but he was in the right place at the right time
So I see him starting ahead of O Rielly next week
The other change I'd make is McKeever for Brennan
And give biggy another chance in front of a home crowd"
I still not convenienced about Emmon Wallace. He did well enough when coming on running at them and getting the goal. But the first thing he did was pass it straight to a Roscommon man. Gave the ball another time then blew a Golden chance to seal the game.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 29/01/2018 12:46:46    2071900

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Colgan
Lavin
McGill
M Burke
Keoghan
Power
Conlon
Flanagan
Rooney
J McEntee
Menton
O'Sullivan
Joey Wallace
S tobin
McKeever

I take it Lenihan is out for a good stint ? if its true about a small operation on his knee. I would use Sean Tobin as a target man rather COS. I prefer COS out the field where he is a work horse. I think Biggy offered little the last two games caused a bit of trouble running at teams but other than that poor."
According to Fergal lynch he had a small knee up. But I think he said it was over xmas, but he played since the. That's all I know. Maybe it acted up , I don't know more than what I read

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/01/2018 13:02:25    2071914

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "I still not convenienced about Emmon Wallace. He did well enough when coming on running at them and getting the goal. But the first thing he did was pass it straight to a Roscommon man. Gave the ball another time then blew a Golden chance to seal the game."
I'm not sure either

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/01/2018 13:19:05    2071925

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Clare shouldn't be as good Roscommon but with the league you never know what you will get. Conlon and Eamon Wallace have to start they both made a huge difference yesterday especially when carrying the ball. Tobin to me is still an impact sub, he has done very little for Simonstown during there two championship seasons. I feel this is a game made for O Reilly to see if he is going to cut it at senior level. This would be my team for the weekend:

1.) Colgan
2.) Lavin
3.) McGill
4.) Keoghan
5.) S McEntee
6.) Power
7.) Conlon
8.) Flanagan
9.) Menton
10.) J McEntee
11.) O'Sullivan
12.) E Wallace
13.) J Wallace
14.) McKeever
15.) O Reilly

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 29/01/2018 13:51:38    2071947

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Clare shouldn't be as good Roscommon but with the league you never know what you will get. Conlon and Eamon Wallace have to start they both made a huge difference yesterday especially when carrying the ball. Tobin to me is still an impact sub, he has done very little for Simonstown during there two championship seasons. I feel this is a game made for O Reilly to see if he is going to cut it at senior level. This would be my team for the weekend:

1.) Colgan
2.) Lavin
3.) McGill
4.) Keoghan
5.) S McEntee
6.) Power
7.) Conlon
8.) Flanagan
9.) Menton
10.) J McEntee
11.) O'Sullivan
12.) E Wallace
13.) J Wallace
14.) McKeever
15.) O Reilly"
In my view Andy will have some learning points from Yesterday........What do we change from 1st half performance ? Lavin very promising corner back. McGill v good prospect. Mickey A warrior.. we need more like him. Pace ? he cant go on forever options for 4 ? Shane ...i will keep at him for a while longer. Power .. i will talk to him about not passing the book and take responsibility yourself. another go anyway Conlon lets see more. Flanagan not any options hoping more game tiime will bring him on. Menton ..i need his type. J mc Entee improving.. O sullivan ..ill have a word with him head up and lay off to better placed player stays for now . Reilly.... i have been patient with him. i will have a good chat with him and ask for self analysis etc. Impact sub? not sure .... E Wallace given 12 . Tobin helped yesterday , strenght, left footed frees ...stays for now Brennan.......not yet keep on panel. OReilly dont know.. Lenihan plays if fit. Joey wallace on for now anyway Colgan stays for now Rooney i need him fit. Freetakers needs attention Overall reaction mixed but improving.......I wont be distracted looking at the dubs just yet...we are where we are.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 29/01/2018 15:21:16    2072000

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Clare shouldn't be as good Roscommon but with the league you never know what you will get. Conlon and Eamon Wallace have to start they both made a huge difference yesterday especially when carrying the ball. Tobin to me is still an impact sub, he has done very little for Simonstown during there two championship seasons. I feel this is a game made for O Reilly to see if he is going to cut it at senior level. This would be my team for the weekend:

1.) Colgan
2.) Lavin
3.) McGill
4.) Keoghan
5.) S McEntee
6.) Power
7.) Conlon
8.) Flanagan
9.) Menton
10.) J McEntee
11.) O'Sullivan
12.) E Wallace
13.) J Wallace
14.) McKeever
15.) O Reilly"
Emmon Walace got plenty of chances last year throughout league and championship. And never made the most of it. I am not sure about him. Passing the ball in to keepers hand yesterday was awful to watch. Do you not feel keoghan was better out around the middle of the field ? He was a rock sense going forward when we where under serious pressure. Lavin seems to doing ok at corner back and Mickey Burke to. I would only pulling back if we where under serious pressure other wise he plays wing back for me.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 29/01/2018 15:33:10    2072008

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Replying To nobull456:  "In my view Andy will have some learning points from Yesterday........What do we change from 1st half performance ? Lavin very promising corner back. McGill v good prospect. Mickey A warrior.. we need more like him. Pace ? he cant go on forever options for 4 ? Shane ...i will keep at him for a while longer. Power .. i will talk to him about not passing the book and take responsibility yourself. another go anyway Conlon lets see more. Flanagan not any options hoping more game tiime will bring him on. Menton ..i need his type. J mc Entee improving.. O sullivan ..ill have a word with him head up and lay off to better placed player stays for now . Reilly.... i have been patient with him. i will have a good chat with him and ask for self analysis etc. Impact sub? not sure .... E Wallace given 12 . Tobin helped yesterday , strenght, left footed frees ...stays for now Brennan.......not yet keep on panel. OReilly dont know.. Lenihan plays if fit. Joey wallace on for now anyway Colgan stays for now Rooney i need him fit. Freetakers needs attention Overall reaction mixed but improving.......I wont be distracted looking at the dubs just yet...we are where we are."
mc keever yes forgot about him i will play him lets see how training goes this week

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 29/01/2018 15:35:11    2072010

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Replying To ratlag:  "Not really sure where everyones wanting for Power to be dropped from 6 is coming from?! I thought he played well enough and the 2 heavy tackles he put in were last man effort stopping what would have been 1 on 1 situations, very good fouls to give considering the situtaion. Conlon was 6 against Lonford and it didn't work out. Now one bad game doesn't make a bad player and Conlon has serious potential but he played wing back when he came on against Roscommon and did extremely well from there, why not start him there so against Clare?"
Well let's be honest about things here, the best half back line in the county would be keoghan, conlon and forde but unfortunately we won't see forde this year so power needs to nail his chance he's been around long enough now. At 20 the defence should be built around conlon going forward

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 29/01/2018 15:37:14    2072013

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Replying To nobull456:  "mc keever yes forgot about him i will play him lets see how training goes this week"
KEOGHAN ........playing maybe at 4 ?????

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 29/01/2018 15:55:00    2072023

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Well let's be honest about things here, the best half back line in the county would be keoghan, conlon and forde but unfortunately we won't see forde this year so power needs to nail his chance he's been around long enough now. At 20 the defence should be built around conlon going forward"
I'm as of yet unconvinced on Conlon at 6 for Meath, as I said he was shocking against Longford!! I haven't seen him at club so I can't comment to much, but the l;ittle I have seen of him with meath wing back suits him much better

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 29/01/2018 16:02:45    2072034

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At the risk of opening up last weeks debate about the difference between "should win" and "hope to win", I would say that this is a game that meath should win, and absolutely need to win if we want promotion. With no direspect meant to Clare, this is one that you would have down as a home banker. We beat them by 12 points in Ennis last year, and I don't see that they have improved hugely since then. 2/5 home win at the bookies, but I will be taking the 21/20 on meath (-3).

Regarding the team, it looks like the tactic this year is to keep things very tight for the first half, then cut loose in the last 25 minutes. To do that, we need to be able to bring on 2 or 3 forwards who can up the pressure on the opposition defense with fresh legs. Tobin should be one of those, as he appears to play better as a sub that a starter. One of the Wallaces should also be available to run at the defense when they are tiring. The other person I would hold back for that role is graham Reilly. I would like to see him in the mc Menamon role for Dublin - on after 10 minutes of the second half to reek havoc. I just don't think he has the legs for 70 minutes championship football - in horse racing terms, I don't think he stays the distance. I would much prefer to see Biggy tearing at a defense for 25 minutes at 100%, that watching him chase shadows around his own 45 yard line for 40 minutes, and then have nothing in the tank when we go to attack. I don't think the first half defensive tactics are suited to his game, and would prefer to save his energy to when it can be used best.

I'd play;
Colgan
Lavin
McGill
Burke
Keoghan
Conlon
Power
Menton
Flanagan
J McEntee
Brennan
O'sullivan
Wallace
Mckeever
O'reilly

I reckon though that McEntee will play s McEntee instead of Conlon, and graham Reilly instead of Brennan.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 29/01/2018 16:26:47    2072047

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This will be a tough game last year Clare were without Brennan in midfield probably one of the best midfielders in Ireland. Reilly and Cos both had a great game that day but Clare were well under par . they got a point off Cavan on Sat night last and have had some really close games with Kildare in the last few years. We should not underestimate this Clare team.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 29/01/2018 17:09:24    2072070

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Replying To SheridansTry:  "This will be a tough game last year Clare were without Brennan in midfield probably one of the best midfielders in Ireland. Reilly and Cos both had a great game that day but Clare were well under par . they got a point off Cavan on Sat night last and have had some really close games with Kildare in the last few years. We should not underestimate this Clare team."
In fairness Cavan were very depleted on Saturday and had 10 debutants in their starting 15. We really should be defeating Clare on home soil and I think we'll win with a bit to spare.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 29/01/2018 17:34:55    2072078

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "In fairness Cavan were very depleted on Saturday and had 10 debutants in their starting 15. We really should be defeating Clare on home soil and I think we'll win with a bit to spare."
Wouldn't take Clare for granted. This game should be approached the same as we would approach playing any top division 1 team.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 29/01/2018 17:54:48    2072088

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