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Simonstown refusing to field

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Replying To Maestro:  "The game was fixed for Saturday night. There was a mass for all the Navan clubs at this time Saturday. Would this have anything to do with the game being called off?"
God bless them, never realised yet were so religious around navan

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 09/05/2017 07:51:06    1985347

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Replying To Maestro:  "The game was fixed for Saturday night. There was a mass for all the Navan clubs at this time Saturday. Would this have anything to do with the game being called off?"
no it was simply because of the county players not being made available

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 09/05/2017 08:18:21    1985357

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Replying To Maestro:  "The game was fixed for Saturday night. There was a mass for all the Navan clubs at this time Saturday. Would this have anything to do with the game being called off?"
lol!

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2017 08:58:16    1985364

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What time is mass on Wed eve ?

Count (Meath) - Posts: 93 - 09/05/2017 09:44:37    1985380

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From my understanding Queeney and Downey were allowed play with Na Fianna and Simonstowns 2 County men weren't as they were playing Sunday. I also heard that Simonstown have a lot of injuries and that is why they didn't want to play it. Do they not have any strength and dept?

Meath lads will be all playing during the week for there clubs anyway so i dont see the big deal, a week and a half before championship is plenty of time with the clubs.

RoadRage (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 09/05/2017 09:52:32    1985384

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I'd like to see some actual confirmation rather than just a post on a message board.
But if it is the case, then Na Fianna should get the points. There shouldn't even be any debate about it. Anything else would open up the floodgates. We were without more than half of our team (6 senior footballers, 2 senior hurlers) for our narrow loss to Nobber last week. With our county players, we win that game (no disrespect to Nobber). Come the end of the league, that loss could be the difference between going up to division 1 and staying in division 2.
If the game is refixed, then you can guarantee that Ratoath as well as countless other teams will be refusing to field for the same reasons and the league will be thrown into chaos.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 09/05/2017 10:17:06    1985392

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It's only a few short weeks ago Simonstown were complaining that as county champions they were under-represented on the panel (none on the team sheet for the Kildare game), now they've got a few on it they expect the rest of the county to fit round them?

To be honest I don't see what they're problem is, they have a lot of strength and depth in their current panel with lots of young lads willing to put their hand up for starting place, these are the very occasions where they get the opportunity to do jus that.
This sort of behaviour won't do anything for their confidence. What sort of message does it send out to the rest of the squad and the lads sitting on the bench bursting to play? The current management doesn't have any confidence in your ability to play as good as the guy you're expected to replace?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 09/05/2017 10:25:37    1985396

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The likes of dunboyne and ratoath are missing 5 or 6 lads every game and they just get on with it. Surely a game minus two county players is better championship preparation than no game at all

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 09/05/2017 10:27:46    1985397

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I know that in Donegal, certain rounds of the league are designated as "starred matches" where teams with similar numbers of county players are fixed to play each other in those rounds (ie - teams with 3 county players play each other that weekend while teams with none play each other where possible).

nmsmithy96 (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 09/05/2017 10:46:18    1985409

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I think everyone is so bogged down in their own club's situation that they are missing the point entirely here. It's not about what club is missing more players or who has more players on the panel. It's about clubs (and this has been going on for years) being made to bow to the wishes of the senior county manager. This is an issue all over the country and maybe it's about time someone stood up and said they've had enough. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now to be honest.

Whether you agree with it or not is another matter. But I suspect that if your club (whatever club that might be) has players on the panel and had taken a similar approach to Simonstown then you'd be fully supportive of that decision.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 09/05/2017 11:04:22    1985414

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Also apparently in relation to O'Sullivan with Moynalvey, McEntee wanted him to get more game time and asked Fay to play him for a half.

meathguy123 (Meath) - Posts: 16 - 09/05/2017 11:38:08    1985423

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Replying To Count:  "What time is mass on Wed eve ?"
Game moved to Dalgan park

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 09/05/2017 11:42:48    1985425

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I think everyone is so bogged down in their own club's situation that they are missing the point entirely here. It's not about what club is missing more players or who has more players on the panel. It's about clubs (and this has been going on for years) being made to bow to the wishes of the senior county manager. This is an issue all over the country and maybe it's about time someone stood up and said they've had enough. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now to be honest.

Whether you agree with it or not is another matter. But I suspect that if your club (whatever club that might be) has players on the panel and had taken a similar approach to Simonstown then you'd be fully supportive of that decision."
no,but doubt my club would do that..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2017 11:45:05    1985426

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I think everyone is so bogged down in their own club's situation that they are missing the point entirely here. It's not about what club is missing more players or who has more players on the panel. It's about clubs (and this has been going on for years) being made to bow to the wishes of the senior county manager. This is an issue all over the country and maybe it's about time someone stood up and said they've had enough. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now to be honest.

Whether you agree with it or not is another matter. But I suspect that if your club (whatever club that might be) has players on the panel and had taken a similar approach to Simonstown then you'd be fully supportive of that decision."
I would be disgusted in either of my clubs doing anything similar. And I would hope they would be severely punished. Simonstown have acted stupidly and should be sanctioned appropriately. If this isvwhat has happened.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/05/2017 12:11:43    1985440

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Replying To RoadRage:  "From my understanding Queeney and Downey were allowed play with Na Fianna and Simonstowns 2 County men weren't as they were playing Sunday. I also heard that Simonstown have a lot of injuries and that is why they didn't want to play it. Do they not have any strength and dept?

Meath lads will be all playing during the week for there clubs anyway so i dont see the big deal, a week and a half before championship is plenty of time with the clubs."
yes i think this is what simonstown were protesting about mostly. think its more why are they allowed have their county boys and we cant have ours. im sure they have lots of lads willing to step up. i think its more the principle of the matter than anything else

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 09/05/2017 12:29:49    1985445

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I would be disgusted in either of my clubs doing anything similar. And I would hope they would be severely punished. Simonstown have acted stupidly and should be sanctioned appropriately. If this isvwhat has happened."
Why would you be disgusted. Is the integrity of club football not worth taking a stand on. Why should some clubs have county players available to them and others not.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 09/05/2017 14:57:16    1985485

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Lads think about it logically!! There has been 2 challenge games for the county in the last week or so, if the lads are selected for the challenge game then obviously they wont be release for the club games, it wouldnt happen anywhere. We only had 2 of 7 footballers and neither of the hurlers as all the lads were involved in matches for the county either this weekend or last weekend. Tobin was hardly to be expected to play a full league game and then a full county game the next day!!! Lads selected against Cavan for the most part didnt play the week before barring a few (to the best of my knowledge) who are vying for the few spots on the Meath team that aren't yet nailed down!!

Simonstown were out of line in not playing the match especially when they were well able to field a team for it!! Its disrpectful to their own squad players and to all the other teams in the league as its a free 2 points for Na Fianna which may affect the league later on

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 09/05/2017 15:28:14    1985493

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "So why was Simonstown's game the only one not to go ahead? Do you think the whole club was at mass?"
I'll think you'll find no Navan team played Saturday night.....

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 09/05/2017 16:43:54    1985513

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Replying To Maestro:  "I'll think you'll find no Navan team played Saturday night....."
The only game FIXED for Saturday night that didn't go ahead. Look, if you really think they didn't field because of a mass then so be it.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 09/05/2017 20:57:38    1985543

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "The only game FIXED for Saturday night that didn't go ahead. Look, if you really think they didn't field because of a mass then so be it."
A bit of coincidence that the other 2 Navan teams matches weren't FIXED for Saturday night.....

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 09/05/2017 21:17:12    1985548

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