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Last game of the league and promotion still up for grabs. It would be pretty awful if Kildare won and we failed to do so. So I think Reilly has to start. McEntee is getting through to the players and the tracking back from the forwards was great last weekend. I still would like to see changes in midfield & would like to see D. Tobin starting there on Sunday. I wouldnt be a major fan of Sean Tobin but his second half performance on Sunday is worthy of a start in this one.

1.O'Rourke
2.Keoghan
3.McGill
4.Shane McEntee
5.Harnan
6.Power
7.James McEntee
8.Menton
9.D. Tobin
10. G. Reilly
11.O'Sullivan
12.Wallace
13.McMahon
14. S. Tobin
15.Lenihan

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 28/03/2017 16:45:24    1972378

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Micheal Newman if fit starts simple as..Full forward line of

13.McMahon
14.Newman
15.Lenihan"
I'm not saying he doesn't start if fit and that I don't rate him.....but he's missed too much over last year to be up to speed.....and he's being bigged up something shocking here like he's a guaranteed match winner....not too long ago people were calling for him to be dropped cause he was too inconsistent and couldn't win his own ball. Re: biggy....no im not his number one fan but I just call it as I see it..mcentees no fool...he knows the guy he makes captain is gonna be a guaranteed starter and at start of season that was either POR...keogan...or biggy. He's never gonna be dropped and nor should he be

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 889 - 28/03/2017 17:20:42    1972406

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "southmeathgael your definitely biggys biggest fan on here and are blinded by the fact that he has weaknesses one of which is his work rate.
he may well score 3pts per game but how many attacks has he allowed the opposition to set up by not tracking his man or getting back behind the ball as needed.
you cant expect the other guys on the team to do his work it makes for contempt in the team and Andy has to be seen to send a message to the WHOLE team that everyone is expected to put in the same effort, he was made captain in the hope it would inspire him to lift his game and maybe he will,
he is not a complete player nor are others but you have to start being realistic and balanced in your comments or you will start to be just not creditable"
I'm sorry mate but that is the most clichéd statement I have read in a long time,
1 graham don't track baw? False. To back this up playing as ff how many times would you want him in back line? Serious question. How many times was Stephen bray in full back line? How many times was newman in full back line?
Btw when graham was played in half forwards this year he was tracking back ALL the TIME. to say otherwise is totally untrue .
So now he must run a 100 meters to track back some one else man to mark? Utter utter BS .

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 17:51:53    1972425

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "I'm not saying he doesn't start if fit and that I don't rate him.....but he's missed too much over last year to be up to speed.....and he's being bigged up something shocking here like he's a guaranteed match winner....not too long ago people were calling for him to be dropped cause he was too inconsistent and couldn't win his own ball. Re: biggy....no im not his number one fan but I just call it as I see it..mcentees no fool...he knows the guy he makes captain is gonna be a guaranteed starter and at start of season that was either POR...keogan...or biggy. He's never gonna be dropped and nor should he be"
I never "bigged" anybody up! You in fact are doing all the "bigging"up ! Look for the last time Graham should start I agree with that ! But He has had a poor year ! He needs to improve his performances! He was poor on Sunday and was poor in Down! We need more from this guy! He has it in him!

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 28/03/2017 17:53:43    1972428

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Replying To nobull456:  "If Reilly needs a rest that badly then leave him off for the Clare match. There will be a rest period after that anyway. Andy will monitor him and others in training. If workrate is at an acceptable level he will return. I dont see any point in flogging a tired horse if that is the case. After rest there should be no questions about attitude or workrate so."
What forward would you bring on that can GUARANTEE 3 points from play and another 3 from fouls. Honest question who is this forward that Andy has not tried who can deliver what graham can on his OFF DAYS?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 17:53:57    1972430

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Good man Royaldunne how is she cutting? As a neutral on Biggy I think he is a very good player. He had some year in 2010 and he scored four points against us in the Leinster Final and he should of won young player of the year that year. Do you think yourself that Biggy's underachieves when he plays against the Dubs in Croke Park?"
No actually I dont, he had a great game v them in 10 , and every other game he was double marked. Actually last year he scored 3 from play v dubs and McCarthy? Who was marking him was scoreless and taken off, he also upset Connolly:) . By far meaths best player in that semi final. But dubs have always doubled up on him apart from last year. And 10. Now I think it was un 14 final he had a shocker against them.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 17:59:57    1972433

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "That is total and utter horse manure. Denying yourself at least 3 points from your final tally would be the definition of stupidity.....plus the 2 or 3 he gets fouled for. He had a quiet enough league and still scored very well.....to say he had a poor one is just plain wrong. Leno has being very hit and miss too...we'll drop him so..
Keogan got roasted twice v kildare and Cork..let's drop him too. Ridiculous. The league had one game left....he can rest for 2 or 3 weeks after it"
Totally agree.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 18:01:27    1972435

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Replying To redser123:  "because Derry were pure rubbish, last big game before that where biggy didnt start was Armagh 2014 championship in a game we were expected to win and lost badly, nonsense the thought of him not starting when he consistently delivers 3 points a game, crazy thing is hes actually been pretty good throughout this league, id imagine he's our top pointscorer from play"
Yeah I know he actually has had a very good league. Now ok some maybe tiring towards end. But Jesus he's not a machine. That Armagh game finished me with mod, the only player that could kick a long range point at the time been left on the bench, he scored 3 points that day when came on. It was football madness nit to start him v a blanket defense. By time he came on game was gone

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 18:07:21    1972438

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'm sorry mate but that is the most clichéd statement I have read in a long time,
1 graham don't track baw? False. To back this up playing as ff how many times would you want him in back line? Serious question. How many times was Stephen bray in full back line? How many times was newman in full back line?
Btw when graham was played in half forwards this year he was tracking back ALL the TIME. to say otherwise is totally untrue .
So now he must run a 100 meters to track back some one else man to mark? Utter utter BS ."
Royaldunne there is no point in discussing graham Reilly with you! You are totally biased! I would encourage others not to waste their breath ! Pathetic

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 28/03/2017 18:27:24    1972449

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Royaldunne there is no point in discussing graham Reilly with you! You are totally biased! I would encourage others not to waste their breath ! Pathetic"
Sorry mate only one been pathetic is you.
Look we get it you have some agenda against Graham Reilly. Maybe he gave you a dig in a club match or something I dont know. But to make up BS saying he had a bad league is utterly nonsense and honestly brings down other posts that you may have merit in. Try to keep your personal feelings aside and just concentrate on the players themselves.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 18:57:18    1972463

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'm sorry mate but that is the most clichéd statement I have read in a long time,
1 graham don't track baw? False. To back this up playing as ff how many times would you want him in back line? Serious question. How many times was Stephen bray in full back line? How many times was newman in full back line?
Btw when graham was played in half forwards this year he was tracking back ALL the TIME. to say otherwise is totally untrue .
So now he must run a 100 meters to track back some one else man to mark? Utter utter BS ."
The only reason he was put in full forward was because he won't/can't track back and he was unaffectfull in there so was back centre half last game
He cannot get out in front of his man in full forward line
You obviously don't understand the modern game where work rate is key and passengers hurt you
Andy will have to come up with a game plan that includes biggy or else get him working

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 28/03/2017 19:14:05    1972466

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Last thing I'm gonna say regarding biggy....not too many of our lads..none in fact would warrant a man marking job by Lee Keegan...and give him his fill of it too

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 889 - 28/03/2017 19:15:16    1972467

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Royaldunne there is no point in discussing graham Reilly with you! You are totally biased! I would encourage others not to waste their breath ! Pathetic"
Conversely is there any point discussing Reilly with posters who think the manager who made him the team captain will demote him to an impact sub? Some people are clearly confusing their dislike of him, or to be kind, lack of confidence in him, with Andy Mac's personal opinion on the player, which is probably a good deal higher than that of some on here.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 28/03/2017 19:19:09    1972470

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Replying To royaldunne:  "What forward would you bring on that can GUARANTEE 3 points from play and another 3 from fouls. Honest question who is this forward that Andy has not tried who can deliver what graham can on his OFF DAYS?"
Royaldunne That is a totally separate issue who replaces him. Andy will handle that. If Graham is too tired at this point leave him off..end of.. Of course we need players like him for this year but working at his full potential. I accept he has the talent when he wants to use it.....I for one have said so many times. I also said because of his ability he can be very frustrating to look at when he stands off....Yes he can be a joy to watch at other times..i certainly wont bet he will score 3 points in every match though. In simple we want him at full throttle ,and if he needs a rest fine....after that lets see what happens........Anyway, I dont think what any of us think matters Andy will decide who stays,and i wont be surprised if he makes some ruthless decisions soon. btw forwards who may give us 3 pts every match lenihan,COS mc Mahon.......Graham has competion now for top scorer .

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 28/03/2017 19:25:14    1972476

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Last thing I'm gonna say regarding biggy....not too many of our lads..none in fact would warrant a man marking job by Lee Keegan...and give him his fill of it too"
Good point, Lee Keegan couldn't get near biggy in that club final, biggy roasted him

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 402 - 28/03/2017 19:29:59    1972478

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "The only reason he was put in full forward was because he won't/can't track back and he was unaffectfull in there so was back centre half last game
He cannot get out in front of his man in full forward line
You obviously don't understand the modern game where work rate is key and passengers hurt you
Andy will have to come up with a game plan that includes biggy or else get him working"
I think Andy has made clear his views on Graham. He made him captain. Not for any alternative motive. Just cause he clearly has faith in him and his undoubted abilities.
So I think ill take Andy's actions first, and of course the amount of scores graham gets and contributes too

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 19:33:00    1972479

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Last thing I'm gonna say regarding biggy....not too many of our lads..none in fact would warrant a man marking job by Lee Keegan...and give him his fill of it too"
I think that post says it all really. Btw a Westport supporter beside me said and I quote. " can we do the reverse with that Reilly lad , like you did with the Lyons, we would win a all ire" the only people who cant see grahams attributes are his own. Pathetic indeed.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/03/2017 19:36:25    1972481

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Sorry mate only one been pathetic is you.
Look we get it you have some agenda against Graham Reilly. Maybe he gave you a dig in a club match or something I dont know. But to make up BS saying he had a bad league is utterly nonsense and honestly brings down other posts that you may have merit in. Try to keep your personal feelings aside and just concentrate on the players themselves."
As I said I think he's a fine player ! No agenda here but I call a spade a spade! Plenty of others agree with me and I guarantee that! I refuse to acknowledge that he's been good this year when simply he hasn't! He could be our best player by far but he just hasnt delivered that ! No idea why you would make a comment about a dig in a club match ! Very childish off you.

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 28/03/2017 19:48:49    1972485

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Replying To pauk123:  "I think longer term I think Andy will use him as a Jody Devine type player. There's no doubt Reilly running at a tiring defense would be a fantastic weapon off the bench. His workrate has never been great and Andy seems to require that from all his forwards."
Agree--- he could be explosive coming off the bench in last 15

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 28/03/2017 19:49:16    1972486

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "Regarding the high work rate Andy demands from his forwards it looks like a real pity about Alan Ford, I know nothing has been confirmed but I fear the worst which is a real pity I thought he had a super league so far this year.

He'll be a big loss this year in my opinion, he really suits the modern half forward role."
Forde is a massive loss if out for the long term.

Would love to see forde get the captain's armband next year.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 28/03/2017 19:51:37    1972489

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