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Can anyone give me a run down on the teams competing ? What area does Pearce ogs cover?

rhubarb (USA) - Posts: 22 - 05/10/2018 07:56:05    2145217

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Replying To rhubarb:  "Can anyone give me a run down on the teams competing ? What area does Pearce ogs cover?"
Mullahoran St. Josephs, Cootehill, Pearse Ógs and East Cavan Gaels are in the Championship. East Cavan reprsents Kingscourt, Baileboro and Shercock, and probably pull in a few others from around that area. Pearse Ógs is West Cavan. It is pretty much the Woodford Gaels team of a few years ago, but now covering a greater area in West Cavan, all the way down towards Cavan town.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 938 - 05/10/2018 12:31:20    2145270

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Surely they're must be enough interested players to have a team based in Cavan town, could pull players from the gaels, drumalee, killygarry, buttlersbridge, Lavey , denn, Ballinagh, cornafean

rhubarb (USA) - Posts: 22 - 05/10/2018 21:31:16    2145315

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Replying To rhubarb:  "Surely they're must be enough interested players to have a team based in Cavan town, could pull players from the gaels, drumalee, killygarry, buttlersbridge, Lavey , denn, Ballinagh, cornafean"
Forget about the beautiful game you see played by the likes of Cork Tipperary Waterford Galway Kilkenny Limerick Wexford Offaly Clare Dublin ect. Even today the real hurling day's are gone while the rule book keeps being changed to satisfy individuals that know sod all about the real game off yesterday year. Here in Cavan it's just a matter of ticking the box for it's dead it would be safe to say all the games will not even be played it's that bad.

Going back to the late seventies early eighties when Cavan had quality players available to them from the Army men who came up to the border the Garda and Bank or government service employees. That was the time to push forward but sadly they sat on their honkers the rest is history.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4484 - 06/10/2018 11:38:51    2145341

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Forget about the beautiful game you see played by the likes of Cork Tipperary Waterford Galway Kilkenny Limerick Wexford Offaly Clare Dublin ect. Even today the real hurling day's are gone while the rule book keeps being changed to satisfy individuals that know sod all about the real game off yesterday year. Here in Cavan it's just a matter of ticking the box for it's dead it would be safe to say all the games will not even be played it's that bad.

Going back to the late seventies early eighties when Cavan had quality players available to them from the Army men who came up to the border the Garda and Bank or government service employees. That was the time to push forward but sadly they sat on their honkers the rest is history."
Tell me about the rule book changes in hurling that you have mentioned . And how they have affected the game?
And also when you came to Cavan in the 70s what did you personally do to promote hurling in the Area? You been from a hurling County

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 946 - 07/10/2018 06:47:02    2145405

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Tell me about the rule book changes in hurling that you have mentioned . And how they have affected the game?
And also when you came to Cavan in the 70s what did you personally do to promote hurling in the Area? You been from a hurling County"
He seems like a arm chair hero, easier to critize then give your own time to promote the game, negative people like him should not be listened to and people with positive attitudes looking to the future encouraged

rhubarb (USA) - Posts: 22 - 07/10/2018 12:25:56    2145420

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Replying To rhubarb:  "He seems like a arm chair hero, easier to critize then give your own time to promote the game, negative people like him should not be listened to and people with positive attitudes looking to the future encouraged"
rhubarb you have not got a clue what you are talking about armchair hero don't make me laugh. You have not got a clue.
Inaroundehouse why is it every time I post people like you demand from me reasons why ect. Who the hell do you think you are there is nothing after your name stating your qualifications or achievements in the game same applies to everyone else on here. I have forgotten more in my life time that many on here will ever learn. I have had the pleasure of standing beside or watching many inter-county managers and trainers do their business and I have picked up a lot of knowledge of how the system works in fact I would say I am very knowledgable in the Gaelic football game. If it was soccer you could challenge me for sure for I know nothing about that game.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4484 - 07/10/2018 16:06:36    2145427

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Who won this out? No results on the Cavan GAA site.

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 14/10/2018 20:41:27    2146506

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Replying To Cully:  "Who won this out? No results on the Cavan GAA site."
Championship is not finished yet. The Cavan CB, in their infinite wisdom, sat on their a***s all year and only started the championship in late September. Despite hurling being a summer sport and no hurling going on in the county since the county team finished up in early June. Two rounds have been played so far. One first round match, Cootehill v Mullahoran, doubled up as a playoff to see who would represent Cavan in Ulster. That Ulster game was meant to be Mullahoran v Sean Traceys (Armagh) yesterday, but that was postponed as the Mullahoran footballers were in the Cavan IFC final (there are a lot of dual players). The championship will be run off after the teams are finished in Ulster, so sometime in November/December. Complete joke if you ask me, but sure what would a hurling man know...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 938 - 15/10/2018 09:49:47    2146556

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whenever hurling comes up on here John is sure to get involved. John, we know you have a bee in your bonnet and a chip on your shoulder regarding hurling in this county. I know what you are referring to regarding the rule changes. That was a very long time ago and it did divide the country in two with ulster and Connacht (apart from Glaway and Antrim) not adapting to the new rules and hence the game died out. You cannot compare Cavan with any hurling county. there is no history of hurling with most people alive today in Cavan. I would say the vast majority of males in the county have never held a hurley or struck a sliothar. It was never played in schools . The girls played camogie at school but the boys never played hurling. You cant compare football in Kilkenny to hurling in cavan either. In Kilkenny there are loads of football clubs and it is played widely at schools, there are plenty of good footballers in Kilkenny, it is just that the county board have no appetite for it and because they are so successful at hurling at county level why would they bother. Also football is much less technical than hurling requiring a lot less natural skill (especially the modern version).

Having said all that I don't understand why you have to constantly bad-mouth anyone who tries (against all the odds) to promote the game of hurling in the county. If cricket clubs started up in Cavan , would you denounce them and say what are they trying to do, they will never be as good as Surrey, Somerset or Yorkshire . of course they would never be as good.
Cavan will never be a hurling county. What we should be doing is trying to get to a level where we are as good as the second worst team in the country (and the UK). The only way to do this is to get the game played at under-age level and at schools, get kids comfortable holding a stick even. We need coaches/teachers from hurling strongholds

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5228 - 15/10/2018 12:42:46    2146597

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Replying To s goldrick:  "whenever hurling comes up on here John is sure to get involved. John, we know you have a bee in your bonnet and a chip on your shoulder regarding hurling in this county. I know what you are referring to regarding the rule changes. That was a very long time ago and it did divide the country in two with ulster and Connacht (apart from Glaway and Antrim) not adapting to the new rules and hence the game died out. You cannot compare Cavan with any hurling county. there is no history of hurling with most people alive today in Cavan. I would say the vast majority of males in the county have never held a hurley or struck a sliothar. It was never played in schools . The girls played camogie at school but the boys never played hurling. You cant compare football in Kilkenny to hurling in cavan either. In Kilkenny there are loads of football clubs and it is played widely at schools, there are plenty of good footballers in Kilkenny, it is just that the county board have no appetite for it and because they are so successful at hurling at county level why would they bother. Also football is much less technical than hurling requiring a lot less natural skill (especially the modern version).

Having said all that I don't understand why you have to constantly bad-mouth anyone who tries (against all the odds) to promote the game of hurling in the county. If cricket clubs started up in Cavan , would you denounce them and say what are they trying to do, they will never be as good as Surrey, Somerset or Yorkshire . of course they would never be as good.
Cavan will never be a hurling county. What we should be doing is trying to get to a level where we are as good as the second worst team in the country (and the UK). The only way to do this is to get the game played at under-age level and at schools, get kids comfortable holding a stick even. We need coaches/teachers from hurling strongholds"
Well you know why I dislike the word hurling being mentioned in this county for you are making a complete mockery of the game and what it stands for. Sadly while those that are still involved in the running of the game here in this county remain you are flogging a dead horse. You have players winning senior titles either by default or packing a team many have never even played in a final but sat on the subs bench they know who they are Loughduff lad knows who I am talking about.
As much as I dislike the former hurling chairman it would be unfair of me to say he is not doing a good job with the game over there in Kingscourt and neighbouring parishes along with several other non natives to Cavan they are working on the future if given the chance but sadly once the lads hit 16 they are gone it's a shame.
There is no room for the game here in this county maybe time to consider forming an ulster amalgamated team playing the best there are in the 9 counties but I expect Antrim Armagh and Down would not agree to it that being the case then why not develop the Ulster team and have 4 teams in a senior league this way there might be a chance of upgrading things in about 20 years or thirty years time at county level once the Ulster set up improved and started to put our once beautiful game on the map the young lads will want some of it. Can you imagine an amalgamated team winning an Ulster title with Cavan lads on it and what it would do for the game??? and maybe going on to win outside of Ulster and bring back silverware. Only way to impress the young lads in Ulster.
Time to clear the cobwebs and look to the future,
You see a perfect example this year they decided to forget the other teams in the set up and use the Cootehill Mullahoran game winners representing Cavan in Ulster. Come on who is trying to fool who.
I am not adverse to making comments either when it comes to football so I am not a one sided coin as many know.
Is mise Sean O'Rinn B.A

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4484 - 15/10/2018 14:08:11    2146616

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Well you know why I dislike the word hurling being mentioned in this county for you are making a complete mockery of the game and what it stands for. Sadly while those that are still involved in the running of the game here in this county remain you are flogging a dead horse. You have players winning senior titles either by default or packing a team many have never even played in a final but sat on the subs bench they know who they are Loughduff lad knows who I am talking about.
As much as I dislike the former hurling chairman it would be unfair of me to say he is not doing a good job with the game over there in Kingscourt and neighbouring parishes along with several other non natives to Cavan they are working on the future if given the chance but sadly once the lads hit 16 they are gone it's a shame.
There is no room for the game here in this county maybe time to consider forming an ulster amalgamated team playing the best there are in the 9 counties but I expect Antrim Armagh and Down would not agree to it that being the case then why not develop the Ulster team and have 4 teams in a senior league this way there might be a chance of upgrading things in about 20 years or thirty years time at county level once the Ulster set up improved and started to put our once beautiful game on the map the young lads will want some of it. Can you imagine an amalgamated team winning an Ulster title with Cavan lads on it and what it would do for the game??? and maybe going on to win outside of Ulster and bring back silverware. Only way to impress the young lads in Ulster.
Time to clear the cobwebs and look to the future,
You see a perfect example this year they decided to forget the other teams in the set up and use the Cootehill Mullahoran game winners representing Cavan in Ulster. Come on who is trying to fool who.
I am not adverse to making comments either when it comes to football so I am not a one sided coin as many know.
Is mise Sean O'Rinn B.A"
Do you make any contribution to Hurling when you came to Cavan in the 70s like your other County men did?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 946 - 15/10/2018 20:02:02    2146681

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Do you make any contribution to Hurling when you came to Cavan in the 70s like your other County men did?"
same old s***e did I did I did I you make me puke.
Let me tell you there were far better hurlers in Cavan in the 70ts than me fella one had to admire their skills Pj Kelly Martin Butler Dessie Gardiner Frank Lyons Finbar Noonan Patsy Walsh to name a few they did not need me to be part of their team. I will not make excuses but there was and still is a personal reason as to why not.

Let me ask you a question is Cavan County Board made up of superior football/Hurling including the sub committees you can include the females as well tell me amongst them how many hold an ulster senior medal or even an Intermediate medal now I think you are getting the message you will find the GAA is not made up of all superstars all Ireland medal winners Ulster medal winners out from the Chairman who has a Minor Ulster medal 1974. I stand corrected but enlighten me like a good man.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4484 - 16/10/2018 01:09:44    2146728

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "same old s***e did I did I did I you make me puke.
Let me tell you there were far better hurlers in Cavan in the 70ts than me fella one had to admire their skills Pj Kelly Martin Butler Dessie Gardiner Frank Lyons Finbar Noonan Patsy Walsh to name a few they did not need me to be part of their team. I will not make excuses but there was and still is a personal reason as to why not.

Let me ask you a question is Cavan County Board made up of superior football/Hurling including the sub committees you can include the females as well tell me amongst them how many hold an ulster senior medal or even an Intermediate medal now I think you are getting the message you will find the GAA is not made up of all superstars all Ireland medal winners Ulster medal winners out from the Chairman who has a Minor Ulster medal 1974. I stand corrected but enlighten me like a good man."
I know all of the above players you mentioned but how come you personally didn't get involved in the administration side of hurling within the town seeing you are so passionate about it and from a hurling County. ?? That's my question to you. There was a big effort in the 70s with army and Garda to promote hurling within the town. My memory of you is you never had anything good to say about football or hurling around the town.

And as regards people with medals you mentioned,one of Mickey Graham's assistant has an Ulster medal but you have slated him here before. Double standards?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 946 - 16/10/2018 11:47:44    2146763

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Championship is not finished yet. The Cavan CB, in their infinite wisdom, sat on their a***s all year and only started the championship in late September. Despite hurling being a summer sport and no hurling going on in the county since the county team finished up in early June. Two rounds have been played so far. One first round match, Cootehill v Mullahoran, doubled up as a playoff to see who would represent Cavan in Ulster. That Ulster game was meant to be Mullahoran v Sean Traceys (Armagh) yesterday, but that was postponed as the Mullahoran footballers were in the Cavan IFC final (there are a lot of dual players). The championship will be run off after the teams are finished in Ulster, so sometime in November/December. Complete joke if you ask me, but sure what would a hurling man know..."
Thanks

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 21/10/2018 00:07:37    2147423

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Championship is not finished yet. The Cavan CB, in their infinite wisdom, sat on their a***s all year and only started the championship in late September. Despite hurling being a summer sport and no hurling going on in the county since the county team finished up in early June. Two rounds have been played so far. One first round match, Cootehill v Mullahoran, doubled up as a playoff to see who would represent Cavan in Ulster. That Ulster game was meant to be Mullahoran v Sean Traceys (Armagh) yesterday, but that was postponed as the Mullahoran footballers were in the Cavan IFC final (there are a lot of dual players). The championship will be run off after the teams are finished in Ulster, so sometime in November/December. Complete joke if you ask me, but sure what would a hurling man know..."
You will notice that there are county finals today from Hurling and Football so not only Cavan sitting on their a***s. By the way how did Mullahoran do in Ulster?????

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4484 - 21/10/2018 12:35:28    2147454

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Well you know why I dislike the word hurling being mentioned in this county for you are making a complete mockery of the game and what it stands for. Sadly while those that are still involved in the running of the game here in this county remain you are flogging a dead horse. You have players winning senior titles either by default or packing a team many have never even played in a final but sat on the subs bench they know who they are Loughduff lad knows who I am talking about.
As much as I dislike the former hurling chairman it would be unfair of me to say he is not doing a good job with the game over there in Kingscourt and neighbouring parishes along with several other non natives to Cavan they are working on the future if given the chance but sadly once the lads hit 16 they are gone it's a shame.
There is no room for the game here in this county maybe time to consider forming an ulster amalgamated team playing the best there are in the 9 counties but I expect Antrim Armagh and Down would not agree to it that being the case then why not develop the Ulster team and have 4 teams in a senior league this way there might be a chance of upgrading things in about 20 years or thirty years time at county level once the Ulster set up improved and started to put our once beautiful game on the map the young lads will want some of it. Can you imagine an amalgamated team winning an Ulster title with Cavan lads on it and what it would do for the game??? and maybe going on to win outside of Ulster and bring back silverware. Only way to impress the young lads in Ulster.
Time to clear the cobwebs and look to the future,
You see a perfect example this year they decided to forget the other teams in the set up and use the Cootehill Mullahoran game winners representing Cavan in Ulster. Come on who is trying to fool who.
I am not adverse to making comments either when it comes to football so I am not a one sided coin as many know.
Is mise Sean O'Rinn B.A"
Sean, they had to use the winners of that game to represent Cavan in Ulster as amalgamated teams aren't aloud.
Your native county are doing the same this year are they not?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3569 - 24/10/2018 10:16:28    2148065

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Any word? The Cavan GAA site seems to have no mention of any hurling fixtures or results at all.

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 15/11/2018 19:50:13    2151261

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Replying To Cully:  "Any word? The Cavan GAA site seems to have no mention of any hurling fixtures or results at all."
Semi final played last weekend with Pearse Ógs beating Cootehill. They now play Mullahoran in the final, and it's provisionally booked in for the weekend of 24/25th November.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 938 - 16/11/2018 13:39:07    2151314

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Mullahoran won with a walkover? How did that happen? Get to a final. Wait for weeks and weeks...then concede?

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 14/12/2018 00:03:18    2154239

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