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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 13 Like(s)
Replying To Onion Breath: "Why are the GAA seemingly unable to issue a statement that includes the words "Northern Ireland" and thereby reflecting the democratic view of people across the entire island to recognise the existence of the state of Northern Ireland?
It was democratically recognised when the Treaty was democratically approved in 1921 and again when the Good Friday Agreement was voted on in 1998. Still the GAA, like the IRA, continue to act as if they refuse to recognise the state of Northern Ireland. They're happy enough to recognise the state when it comes accepting government grants.
Their linguistic gymnastics designed to avoid saying Northern Ireland are tiresome and irritating at this stage. Enough of "the North"." I suppose when things are as serious as someone annoying your linguistic taste then we'll all have to change how we view the island and our own opinions on it. The GAA are entitled to say what they want so long as its not abusive. Unless you believe that a majority vote means everyone's vote then I don't see what the problem is.
I assume you mean Sinn Fein when you say IRA, don't worry, well used to it from the Loyalists up here. Tell me how they would go about achieving a united Ireland, which is Sinn Fein's objective, without first following the protocol that is currently set in place here? Something that was set in place when the majority of the 6 counties were unionist, which isn't the case anymore. That was only 23 years ago and look what's changed, yet your bringing up a treaty signed 100 years ago to validate a nothing point you're trying to make. Surely even with no matches there are better topics to come up with!
SaffronDon (National) - 17/04/2021 13:28:16
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Ballymun Vs Kilmacud - 8 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "It's 2 incidents 2 many Brian." Listening to an interview the other day with Antrim footballer Kevin O'Boyle. He mentioned going into the match with Kerry in 09 that he had a broken nose from the previous game. Darren O'Sullivan who he was marking, elbowed him in the nose and it opened like a kipper. He was blood subbed. When he returned to the field, Darren whacked him with another elbow to the nose. Two times in the one match that was.
James Loughrey, ex Antrim and current Cork player was quick to highlight he got two concussions that were definitely intentional thumps while playing against Kerry.
I'm assuming that beatiful Kerry side who always played the 'right' way had a thuggish culture too then since 2 incidents are too many?
SaffronDon (National) - 16/09/2020 18:04:24
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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final. - 8 Like(s)
Replying To Htaem: "They may not fear or freeze but when will they start winning?
I absolutely accept we have to get our house in order, no excuses for Meath, but there seems to be some back slapping going on here among counties who haven't had any success beating the Dubs either.
Moral victories are still defeats no matter what way they're painted!" Some of you boys only have yourselves to blame for this backlash. You've been building up to what the rest of Ireland knew was a mismatch as if it was an AI final with only a kick of the ball between the sides. 20 odd pages of silly passages about the past. Attempting to somehow call it relevant to the present. Anything but look at the match in a realistic light and call it honestly.
Have a pop at other counties who've taken their beatings from Dublin if you want but at least their supporters, in the main, are realistic about their expectations and dont go off hyping up a youthful division 2 side beyond anything they'd achieved before. It was like the English media in the build up to a world cup. Always setting their average players up for a fall. Of course that type of thing is amusing. Maybe next year learn a bit of humility.
SaffronDon (National) - 22/11/2020 15:34:56
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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 7 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "See you can't have reasonable discussions.
When don't knows are excluded it is 56% which as I said is near 60%. I hate to burst ur bubble but only 42% said they wanted a ui.
Bury ur head in the sand all u want. As was said by a poster afterwards. There is a small but growing number of people who don't view themselves as either Irish or British but as northern Irish. You may not like that and will probably refer to them as castle Catholics. But hey what you gonna do ??" I think we were beyond reasonable discussion when you took issue with some of the struggles the St Endas club members had to endure (being murdered) during the height of the troubles for daring to play gaelic football/hurling. Some of your views are toxic and beyond any sort of moderate empathetic view for a supposed Irishman. Your decision, not mine.
As for voting, whatever will be will be, I can live with whatever decision we get. I gave you the breakdown of your version of the 60% which wasn't what you claimed it to be. The 11% still have to vote one way or the other. Loyalist intimidation of immigrants, who have a vote too, or anybody that has a different view to them won't help their cause in the long run though. Like I said earlier, I have many friends from a unionist background who I respect for their views on the union and id happily share a peaceful future with them whatever the decision. But if it goes the other way, calling the likes of yourself a fellow countryman is a lot less inspiring.
SaffronDon (National) - 17/04/2021 19:42:54
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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final. - 7 Like(s)
Replying To Furlong1949: "Thanks Royaldunne. I do appreciate it much more then you think. I dont know personally but you always have my back here, I do appreciate that.
I am no legend , just a Meath bogman from the backwoods of Meath rambling on about this and that. If I was a Meath footballer I would be David Beggy capable of moments of brillance but little bit all over the place, but a good solid worker. If you were Meath footballer you would be Jack Quinn, the greatest Meath full back of all. The Mighty Quinn, The Mighty Royaldunne." Jaysus, maybe Tinder or E harmony is the place for you lads to continue this conversation
SaffronDon (National) - 18/11/2020 21:26:24
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Bloody Sunday - 7 Like(s)
Replying To bloodyban: "I think 'unnecessary' is the right word. Northern Ireland has developed as a separate entity. Its natural political development is in its own space. I dont think Northern Ireland coming into a United Ireland is going to help anybody. Its better off getting on with things the way they are or striking g out on its own with Help from us and the rest of the UK." The British are almost as ignorant to Ulster Unionists as you are towards 6 County nationalists. Like us, they feel its not you or their (Brits) business to tell us what we should be striving for in the future.
SaffronDon (National) - 11/11/2020 11:18:59
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Does Gaelic Football Need The 22/50 Rugby Rule ? - 7 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "Red thumbs dont aid discussion. They are misused.
If people want changes to the forum. Bringing back red thumbs should be last on list. Better look to forum, better features would be much better" Do you know what doesn't aid discussion? Lack of knowledge on topics, terrible grammar, condescending manner of questioning and victimhood when someone responds in kind. Green or red thumbs come after all that. I can't think of a time they've ever stopped or even hindered debate.
SaffronDon (National) - 16/07/2020 14:31:50
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Kieran Donaghy is still the King of the opposing square - 7 Like(s)
Replying To galwayted: "Ever since he put the great Francie Bellew on his ass back in 2006 he has been the most feared forward in the country from a backs prospective.How in hells name would you sleep the night before if you thought you had to mark that lad in Croke Park" I'd say there was no sleep lost in the McMahon household in Tyrone the night before 08 final when similar stuff was being written. Dublin seem to have his measure as well.
He has been a top player but you'd think he was a one man team listening to the likes of Brolly and others crow about him. For a high fielder could he be in a better team in terms of service from midfield and half forward?
SaffronDon (National) - 31/07/2017 21:21:11
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Stephen Cluxton 100 - 7 Like(s)
Replying To clondalkindub: "I don't even care if they think he's the best or not (we all know he is it's not even close)but to not all come on and say "wow what an achievement to be the first player to make a 100 even if I don't agree with you calling him the Goat"
But no jealously and hatred for all things Dublin is as strong as ever." If you want your "wow what an achievement" reaction then post it on the Dublin forum!
SaffronDon (National) - 05/06/2019 11:50:51
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 7 Like(s)
Replying To bloodyban: "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!" A civil rights march is a catalyst for violence? The IRA were responsible even though the Brits murdered 14 unarmed civilians which is now a proven fact after years of cover ups and diversion from the British Government? You would fit in well with the most bigoted members of the DUP up here. The one thing you're right on is the education system has a lot to answer for, even if its not what you meant by it. I actually can't believe an Irishman would write such boll*cks.
SaffronDon (National) - 25/08/2020 17:37:06
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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 7 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Off topic question. Why is there a large majority (more than unionists) or Protestant not wanting a United ire??
Seen a few polls now that say while a border poll would be wanted a United ire outcome is highly unlikely. Actually near 60% voting to remain in the union. In other words a decisive victory and putting back another border poll for a generation. Why is this does anyone know ?" Firstly, 46% isn't 60%. That would make a big difference. Secondly, around 11% are undecided. Which means when push comes to shove they will vote one way or the other which could still fall either way, so your dream isn't quite there yet.
Frankly, from a personal perspective I have a lot more in common with many unionists in the North who know right from wrong about the past than I do with many free state partitionists, who a bit like the Loyalists, enjoy the freedom they used to command and don't want to let anybody else have the same privileges as them. It certainly isn't without grey areas I'll give you that.
SaffronDon (National) - 17/04/2021 15:31:23
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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final. - 6 Like(s)
Any chance Jim Gavin fancies a challenge in Ireland's 2nd city? Even he must be getting bored at this stage
SaffronDon (National) - 23/06/2019 17:35:32
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Kerry V Kildare - 6 Like(s)
Poor form from the home crowd spilling out a good 10 minutes before the end while their team puts on a 2nd half scoring display. That's a bit sour towards a young squad
SaffronDon (National) - 04/08/2018 19:34:30
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Did Jonny Cooper dive? - 6 Like(s)
Replying To Joxer: "Just saw it again myself. Was he caught at speed by an arm from McManus to the head area? It's clear that he was and was entitled to go down. It was a clear yellow card offence. He seemed genuinely shook and still down for a while after the card was issued. This was no hair toss issue. Mountain out of a mole hill." are you going to pollute the air with more bs ffs? just call it what it was for a change, pathetic!
SaffronDon (National) - 06/08/2017 23:09:50
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Anthem Protocol - 6 Like(s)
Replying To tonguey: "SaffronDon is out of his depth it is fair to say.
He do no like the truth being told and he like cheese on rhubarb yes.
I like the scallions flavoured swiss roll that can be got in the ating shop on little water street.
This is a funny man no." If the above muck is your depth then I'll be glad to steer clear of it. Truth being told bothers you a lot more than me it would seem.
SaffronDon (National) - 04/06/2021 12:57:26
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Ballymun Vs Kilmacud - 6 Like(s)
OK let's stick to the issue then. Your first comment on this thread was:
'There seems to be a culture of eye gauging at Ballymun'
You're basing that off 2 players 5 years apart with 2 separate incidents. Its hardly a culture that runs deep throughout the club. By those standards the entire game is out of control mayhem played by thugs if we're going to start nit picking incidents per club/county and saying '2 too many' etc. Forgive me if it looked a bit targeted at one county but it is ypur favourite topic from what ive seen down the years.
SaffronDon (National) - 17/09/2020 12:41:42
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 6 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "You ok with the treatment of Maria Cahill? Aine Adams??
Call me Arlene all u like. I will never defend abusers. Unlike u it seems.
Btw how do u feel about a sf elected member defending people who have brought parts of Dublin to its knees?? U ok with that too ?? Obviously" Nah you're more of a Jim Allister. Everything wrong in the world was the 'shinners' doing. For the record I'm not a SF supporter and I wouldnt for one second defend anything to do with what happened to Maria Cahill or anyone else in similar circumstances. But let's be honest, I brought up similar incidents that FF and FG members where involved in and you conveniently ignored them to go off on more mindless rants so your happy enough to indirectly defend abusers when it suits your own agenda Jim!
SaffronDon (National) - 14/10/2020 14:04:58
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GAA Clubs Had It Tough In The North During The Troubles - 6 Like(s)
while I dont particularly like the agenda Brolly constantly pushes in his articles and the good guy/bad guy scenarios he often portrays. He is 100% right to highlight some of the inhumane atrocities suffered by club members of St. Enda's down through the dark years of the troubles.
The club have suffered more than any I can think of and when they do achieve something fantastic as a team, those who arent lucky enough to be around to revel in the glory should be remembered and i know the same happens at my own club when we win a championship. especially lads lost to sectarian murder are remembered in a moment hard to describe beyond bitter sweet.
Frankly, some of the posts from SOME of the Southern lads on this topic are ignorant at best and disgraceful at worst. when we listen to the poor mouth given about clubs in the south finding it hard to cope because of migration to the city or abroad at least nobody was killed or the club burned to the ground. St. Enda's had club leaders murdered for no other reason than they could be identified as a catholic as well as the many other attacks on club property etc and the club survived and are now reaping the rewards of a new era but its all b#ll#cks and nonsense to some!
SaffronDon (National) - 29/01/2019 00:20:16
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Does Gaelic Football Need The 22/50 Rugby Rule ? - 5 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "And my name was ormond. If represents my club, the area I'm from. Where I'm from. I'm not from ormo, saying ormo is disrespectful to my town, area,
As I've said before I didnt mind my name being shortened it was what it was shortened to that i took offence to
There has been trends going back years on certain areas of game which is why changes are constantly being trialled" There is a difference you know between what is disrespectful and what you've decided is disrespectful. Thats more your problem than anyone else's. Plenty of examples of areas or towns that get shortened versions or nicknames too so maybe time for you to grow up a bit.
Its fine for you to call the GAA a 's***show' etc I see. Strange that you spend so much time on a GAA forum if that's your feelings about it. Did all the rugby forums ban you or something?
SaffronDon (National) - 14/07/2020 17:27:17
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Dublin refusing to do one-on-one broadcast interviews - 5 Like(s)
Replying To hill16no1man: "But he doesn't get involved every game
He is beeing targeted and some games responds. Your tv cameras won't show you that so you need to actually attend and see the actual level he gets.
people use the line all players get this to an extent but not to the extent he gets it literally starts before throw in and lasts till full time. You have pundits basically saying it's only way to curb his influence and last year westmeath manager after the game said it was a clear tactic of theirs to try get him sent off. You don't hear that about any other top player.
he reacts yes but the amount of stuff he gets his reaction is only a fraction of the games compared to the agressors on him that go unpunished, do they get highlighted and howcome the cccc don't review these incidents id they don't just go by the Sunday game hysteria? If somebody was constantly breaking into your house and stealing and you keep reporting to the garda and they never do anything I'm sure you would get sick of it and try and stop them yourself.if you don't stick up for yourself on the pitch you will get walked all over. It's officials not doing their jobs t the end of the day that let's agressors keep targetting and then the world and its mother goes bananas when somebody gets fed up being kicked slapped, verbally abused and turns around and gives them a taste of their own medicine." "if your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him" Sun Tzu at around 500BC,
but sure that was before DC and Hill came along. a timeless philosophy needs rewritten for this exceptional circumstance.
SaffronDon (National) - 27/06/2017 14:09:30
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