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Championship Restructure??

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Replying To Greenfield:  "Nonsense talk might be a bit strong, but I agree that this is not the silver bullet that will fix all of our ills. I don't think there is any argument though that quality players will not be helped by playing a better standard of football.
A system like in Kerry where everyone, no matter what club, has a chance to play senior football seems sensible. Also a limit on the number of senior clubs keeps the lower grade chamionships strong as well as making sure the top level is not diluted.
I'm not sure what kind of a structure can be put in place to keep the best players involved although I do think the schools system is where the focus should be. What do you suggest?"
I wish I had the answer to keeping our best young players involved. I think finance plays a large part nowadays-just look at Limerick hurlers-JPs money certainly helped in my opinion.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 28/09/2018 15:25:08    2144249

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I think your problem stems from the structure of your league and it's replicated in other Counties where it's treated as a pre season friendly competition. In Monaghan - 10 teams contest senior league and championship. League being home and away (so 18 games plus champ) where top 4 qualify for the semis and bottom 2 are relegated. No room for complacency - if you're relegated from the league your down to intermediate! It means the league is highly competitive and sets the tone for our championship. If you go down to watch games in Monaghan this weekend you'll find teams like Conor McManus Clontibrit fighting for their life to survive despite being in a champ semi a few weeks ago - Magheracloone who lost the other semi are also in trouble. League football in Monaghan is highly competitive at all levels, which has transferred to our County team. It's brilliant - every league game this weekend will have a couple of hundred people at it - tell me that's not a good thing????

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 335 - 06/10/2018 07:59:13    2145331

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Changing championship structures will not improve football - how could it. Now changing structure may be of benefit to the running and planning of games for players which would be good. The benefit of the Kerry structure is that it allows all players to take part in the senior championship which will improve competition (maybe not football standard) thereby giving players from a lower grade an better opportunity to highlight their credential for inclusion in county panels/teams. To do this a type of knockout system would need to be introduced. Most good players are developed within clubs by good organising/ /coaches/managers/ availability of talent, etc. going through the underage system. When it comes to county it makes little sense in drawing up large panels at the beginning of the year and then giving some of those players no game time. A divisional competition to be played in end of Oct/Nov/Dec could be used to pick a county panel.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/10/2018 11:24:08    2145339

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Replying To GerryD:  "I think your problem stems from the structure of your league and it's replicated in other Counties where it's treated as a pre season friendly competition. In Monaghan - 10 teams contest senior league and championship. League being home and away (so 18 games plus champ) where top 4 qualify for the semis and bottom 2 are relegated. No room for complacency - if you're relegated from the league your down to intermediate! It means the league is highly competitive and sets the tone for our championship. If you go down to watch games in Monaghan this weekend you'll find teams like Conor McManus Clontibrit fighting for their life to survive despite being in a champ semi a few weeks ago - Magheracloone who lost the other semi are also in trouble. League football in Monaghan is highly competitive at all levels, which has transferred to our County team. It's brilliant - every league game this weekend will have a couple of hundred people at it - tell me that's not a good thing????"
It's not possible to do that in Meath, where there's also hurling to take into account.

League is definitely a very secondary competition in Meath but it works for their needs.

As an outsider who came to play in Meath these proposals make a lot of sense.

The championship needed to be split so that reserve teams played separately from 1st teams.

They can actually have much better championships now with more games. Moving the best teams into the A league makes sense also.

The Intermediate championship having 20 teams is fine. The weakest 1st teams will probably get a bit of a roasting in Championship.

They will get better quality league games though with second teams joining the league.

It should be 2 up 2 down for relegation. There's not enough movement between the grades was something badly wrong with the previous system that hasn't been mentioned here.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 06/10/2018 16:25:32    2145377

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Replying To GerryD:  "I think your problem stems from the structure of your league and it's replicated in other Counties where it's treated as a pre season friendly competition. In Monaghan - 10 teams contest senior league and championship. League being home and away (so 18 games plus champ) where top 4 qualify for the semis and bottom 2 are relegated. No room for complacency - if you're relegated from the league your down to intermediate! It means the league is highly competitive and sets the tone for our championship. If you go down to watch games in Monaghan this weekend you'll find teams like Conor McManus Clontibrit fighting for their life to survive despite being in a champ semi a few weeks ago - Magheracloone who lost the other semi are also in trouble. League football in Monaghan is highly competitive at all levels, which has transferred to our County team. It's brilliant - every league game this weekend will have a couple of hundred people at it - tell me that's not a good thing????"
Grand jerry but Monaghan play lip service to hurling 4 or 5 teams meath have 21 clubs and well over30 teams ... totally different set up

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 07/10/2018 20:40:31    2145464

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Replying To Brownepat:  "Grand jerry but Monaghan play lip service to hurling 4 or 5 teams meath have 21 clubs and well over30 teams ... totally different set up"
Appreciate hurling is a factor in terms of the number of games but shouldn't detract from the need to make games competitive. Quality over quantity.

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 335 - 08/10/2018 22:50:58    2145696

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