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Replying To Westmeath213: "Lomans set to be without John heslin for first 3 rounds due to injury meaning him missing games against the downs kinnegad and tpass. They will struggle without him because let's face it Lomans are an average enoigh side without him with exceptions to O'Toole and mccartan." So, they are average if you discount half their forward line. Imagine missing your 3 best forwards and still being average, as opposed to terrible - which any other team would be in the same situation. 2 wins out of 5 is enough to qualify from that group. They'll be just fine. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 474 - 30/07/2021 12:51:24 2365776 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "Lomans set to be without John heslin for first 3 rounds due to injury meaning him missing games against the downs kinnegad and tpass. They will struggle without him because let's face it Lomans are an average enoigh side without him with exceptions to O'Toole and mccartan." TJ Cox, Fola, Shane Dempsey, Ken Casey, Ronan O'Toole, Sam McCartan, Paddy Dowdall, David Whelan, Jason Daly are hardly all "average" footballers. Throw in that fella they got from the north and two or three others from outside the club, I can't see Lomans being touched again this year. Shamrocks seem to be in quite abit of bother. An ageing team with no real underage coming through, I can see them looking at relegation within the next three years Westmeathking (Westmeath) - Posts: 54 - 30/07/2021 12:55:45 2365777 Link
Replying To Westmeathking: "TJ Cox, Fola, Shane Dempsey, Ken Casey, Ronan O'Toole, Sam McCartan, Paddy Dowdall, David Whelan, Jason Daly are hardly all "average" footballers. Throw in that fella they got from the north and two or three others from outside the club, I can't see Lomans being touched again this year. Shamrocks seem to be in quite abit of bother. An ageing team with no real underage coming through, I can see them looking at relegation within the next three years" They were ran close twice last year in two games they should've lost if tyrellspass had the bottle to keep the ball for 30 seconds and If the downs we're a bit more experienced in the situation they found themselves in. Saying that they won't be touched is a bit off now. Yea shamrocks are in massive trouble only for moate being up this year I reckon they could go down Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 338 - 30/07/2021 13:51:07 2365798 Link
Replying To Boarderboy: "Call me crazy but I think Ballycomoyle could be in with a shout at Junior though it all depends on how the local hurling clubs get on as they are very reliant on small ballers. If they get Tommy Doyle kicking ball it will help and they also have Derek McNicholas back so I'd give them a chance, maybe not winning it but they could cause an upset or two. A (predicted) win against CFCW in the opening round will put the wind in their sails as they say." You're crazy, between ourselves ballinagore lomans or the downs Bunbros11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 30/07/2021 15:14:02 2365826 Link
Replying To Boarderboy: "Call me crazy but I think Ballycomoyle could be in with a shout at Junior though it all depends on how the local hurling clubs get on as they are very reliant on small ballers. If they get Tommy Doyle kicking ball it will help and they also have Derek McNicholas back so I'd give them a chance, maybe not winning it but they could cause an upset or two. A (predicted) win against CFCW in the opening round will put the wind in their sails as they say." You are crazy, they might win a game or two but are not good enough to have any bearing on how it ends up and a couple of hurlers is not gonna change this even if they are playing which would be doubtful. CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 30/07/2021 17:27:48 2365875 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "Lomans set to be without John heslin for first 3 rounds due to injury meaning him missing games against the downs kinnegad and tpass. They will struggle without him because let's face it Lomans are an average enoigh side without him with exceptions to O'Toole and mccartan." You do them a disservice with your assessment. Even with Heslin missing for a couple of games they will still comfortably qualify for the knockouts which is when the championship really starts and by which time he'll be well back and fresh and firing on all cylinders, pulling the strings to another title. CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 30/07/2021 17:33:13 2365876 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "They were ran close twice last year in two games they should've lost if tyrellspass had the bottle to keep the ball for 30 seconds and If the downs we're a bit more experienced in the situation they found themselves in. Saying that they won't be touched is a bit off now. Yea shamrocks are in massive trouble only for moate being up this year I reckon they could go down" Don't be so quick to write off Shamrocks making the knockout stages, there's a lot of people sending them towards intermediate but I don't agree. Lot of football to be played and they have key men coming back in at the right time so there'll be a kick in them yet! CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 30/07/2021 17:36:57 2365877 Link
Starting to wonder if Westmeath213 ever watched any football in his life or just likes running down the teams from Mullingar CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 30/07/2021 17:39:50 2365881 Link
Not a hope in hell of shamrocks going down. They might not be winning a senior for a few years but still have a few big players. Starting to get it together at underage so will be fine again the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 182 - 30/07/2021 18:16:49 2365890 Link
Replying To CleanShoulder: "Starting to wonder if Westmeath213 ever watched any football in his life or just likes running down the teams from Mullingar" I just think they will struggle without heslin but will still get through to the knockout stages but won't make it straight to the semis .. in the close games heslin. Is who swings it in Lomans favour . Mullingar shamrocks have not won a game this year in the league & with an ageing team it's hard to see them do much this year however when they won the championship in 18 they came from the bottom group which may work out well for them too . Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 338 - 30/07/2021 18:21:01 2365891 Link
Replying To CleanShoulder: "Don't be so quick to write off Shamrocks making the knockout stages, there's a lot of people sending them towards intermediate but I don't agree. Lot of football to be played and they have key men coming back in at the right time so there'll be a kick in them yet!" Who are the key men to come back in for them ? Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 338 - 30/07/2021 18:21:58 2365892 Link
Dont think Shamrocks will be relegated but cant see them finishing above Rosemount and Killucan in the group. Absolutely there could be a kick in them but the lack of lads in early / mid 20's will count. They have a couple of good 17/18/19 year olds but have had to throw them in at the deep end because of injuries etc. They play Rosemount first, then Moate and Killucan so tough start. Will be interesting to see how Rosemount are going under Ian Bradley. Lomans generally time their run to perfection and once they make the knockout stages they'll step it up a level. But if true, Heslin certainly is a big loss when you consider the scoring machine he is at club level. I did hear he was playing through an injury v Kildare. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1186 - 30/07/2021 19:08:02 2365903 Link
PP Westmeath Club Football Odds: St Lomans Mullingar 5/4 Garrycastle 7/2 Mullingar Shamrocks 7/1 Tyrrellspass 8/1 The Downs 8/1 Athlone 9/1 Rosemount 12/1 Coralstown Kinnegad 14/1 Killucan 33/1 Moate 50/1 Shandonagh 50/1 Caulry 66/1 Paddy Power aren't writing off Mullingar Shamrocks yet. They are 3rd favourites to win the championship. People of Caulry won't like to hear they are favourites to go back to intermediate. As they see themselves getting out of group 2. Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 561 - 31/07/2021 16:56:41 2366147 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "Who are the key men to come back in for them ?" Couple of county and ex county men and one or two lads who were away rambling, they'll be strong enough when the time comes CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 31/07/2021 21:46:57 2366248 Link
Replying To BigSur: "Dont think Shamrocks will be relegated but cant see them finishing above Rosemount and Killucan in the group. Absolutely there could be a kick in them but the lack of lads in early / mid 20's will count. They have a couple of good 17/18/19 year olds but have had to throw them in at the deep end because of injuries etc. They play Rosemount first, then Moate and Killucan so tough start. Will be interesting to see how Rosemount are going under Ian Bradley. Lomans generally time their run to perfection and once they make the knockout stages they'll step it up a level. But if true, Heslin certainly is a big loss when you consider the scoring machine he is at club level. I did hear he was playing through an injury v Kildare." Mullingar have been fairly poor in the league but with Corroon back in the middle they could be a different story. First game against Rosemount will be a big game for both teams, and I can see Mullingar taking it. Seen Miltown playing Rosemount in the league and wasn't overly impressed with Rosemount. Miltown should have won. I think Killucan will be the team to beat in this group. And Moate might surprise a few too, they have couple of good young footballers. All up do, I can't see anyone beating Lomans. blackyconners (Westmeath) - Posts: 39 - 01/08/2021 12:23:15 2366363 Link
Have the actual full list of fixtures, dates and times been released yet does anyone know? It must be the hardest county in Ireland to get information on this sort of thing CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 357 - 01/08/2021 13:42:06 2366399 Link
Replying To CleanShoulder: "Have the actual full list of fixtures, dates and times been released yet does anyone know? It must be the hardest county in Ireland to get information on this sort of thing" Yea they have been but have only been released to the clubs I see some clubs have the information on there Facebook pages. Nothing on Westmeath Facebook which is typical. Iarmhi22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 13 - 01/08/2021 14:21:27 2366417 Link
In terms of notifying the clubs, they generally get 10 days notice at least for championship. However its the public forums like the website and social media is poor. I know there is a new pro which took a while to fill. But surely it's a team effort for all the various platforms and can't be left to 1 person. The basics are all we ask for ie fixtures and results, hopefully it will improve for championship. I am hearing 100 tickets per club for championship games. Wonder will they be on Iarmhi TV like last year which was great. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1186 - 01/08/2021 16:10:00 2366453 Link
Senior Championship Sunday Moate All Whites VS Killucan ~ Killucan by 2 The Downs VS Lomans ~ Lomans by 4 Saturday Caulry VS Shandonagh ~ Shandonagh by 6 Kinnegad VS Tyrellspass ~ TPass by 3 Garrycastle VS Athlone ~ Garrycastle by 5 Rosemount VS Shamrocks ~ Shamrocks by 2 Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 561 - 02/08/2021 12:37:35 2366816 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Senior Championship Sunday Moate All Whites VS Killucan ~ Killucan by 2 The Downs VS Lomans ~ Lomans by 4 Saturday Caulry VS Shandonagh ~ Shandonagh by 6 Kinnegad VS Tyrellspass ~ TPass by 3 Garrycastle VS Athlone ~ Garrycastle by 5 Rosemount VS Shamrocks ~ Shamrocks by 2" Moate vs killucan : killucan by 6 ( depending on availability of players ) Downs vs Lomans: downs by 3 Caulry vs shandonagh : Caulry by 4 Kinnegad vs tyrellspass: draw game Garrycastle vs athlone: garrycastle by 6 Rosemount vs shamrocks : rosemount by 8 Iarmhi22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 13 - 02/08/2021 13:57:27 2366872 Link