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Shhhh , he's making my week with his delusional talk. He will start eulogising Peter the avg soon :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2021 11:17:01 2337275 Link 0 |
Yeah, I think Meath, your own county would be able for Armagh or Tipp, and a good day Cork or Roscommon. The rest I'm afraid would be well beyond the royal county. Ye'd probably bate Kildare, too.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1887 - 15/04/2021 11:25:17 2337276 Link 0 |
We in top ten. And improving. That's all we ask. A few others in top ten including Tyrone are either stalled or going backwards. We are realistic where we are and what we have to do, let's not forget we failed to beat Kerry mayo and Galway dues to goalkeeping errors and a error in back line at end of all games , so that's inexperience , but the potential and talent is there , very young team. We are very hopeful and excited about the league where we will make a huge effort to return to division one. And I firmly believe that will happen. So roll on the league royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2021 12:11:59 2337286 Link 0 |
or they should just get rid of the quarter final group stage altogether or phase 1, phase 2 or whatever it is called, the quarter final weekend over 2 days in august b/h was a much better format.............it is no coincidence that the super 8 format came in after the GAA got into bed with Sky"]Only the GAA could come up with a name as nonsensical as "Quarter Final Group Stage". Call it by whatever name, but it's all about grabbing as much money as possible.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 15/04/2021 12:12:08 2337287 Link 0 |
Are you sure your not Chiricahua Indian with the " we in top ten".
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1997 - 15/04/2021 12:27:25 2337288 Link 3 |
or they should just get rid of the quarter final group stage altogether or phase 1, phase 2 or whatever it is called, the quarter final weekend over 2 days in august b/h was a much better format.............it is no coincidence that the super 8 format came in after the GAA got into bed with Sky"]Only the GAA could come up with a name as nonsensical as "Quarter Final Group Stage". Call it by whatever name, but it's all about grabbing as much money as possible."]Think it's more about watching the top teams compete against each other, Super eights are great, it's all about watching the game, no other sport comes close to GAA as fear as viewing goes.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1997 - 15/04/2021 12:58:40 2337291 Link 3 |
Should there be a back door for football? Yes tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 15/04/2021 13:24:23 2337296 Link 2 |
Well said
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2021 15:56:47 2337312 Link 1 |
How !
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 15/04/2021 17:26:12 2337327 Link 1 |
Just a comment on Tyrone I can't see how anyone thinks they are going backwards, under new management and if they have a full panel mostly injury free they will be a tough test for anyone, might even be the team to finally stop Dublin this year, Tyrone Kerry semi final would be some game if they are both hitting form. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2705 - 15/04/2021 21:34:44 2337352 Link 1 |
I agree with you 100% Tír Chonaill. Tyrone Will be much stronger this year and have a few players back including Cathal McShane. The Tyrone forward line is scary looking.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 15/04/2021 21:42:07 2337355 Link 1 |
Good to see Armagh back up again. Pity about not being able to see games or will we?
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1997 - 15/04/2021 22:05:20 2337363 Link 3 |
100% agree. We haven't seen anything in years to suggest the Ulster teams could do anything against Dublin to back up the bluster from some posters on here. About time the rest of the country starting waking up to the reality of what the GAA have created here. We've seen in Leinster for years that the football championship has been killed off. Anyone spending hard earned money to attend football championship games needs their head checked. Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 15/04/2021 23:20:28 2337370 Link 2 |
Martin Breheny showed in the Indy this week (13th) how a 2-chance AI could have been run off in 10 weeks (link below). https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/retaining-the-provincial-system-was-an-opportunity-squandered-for-an-open-draw-40310556.html In his idea, teams winning in Rds 1 & 2 (Direct Route) would need to win 6 games (beaten once or unbeaten) to win the AI title, while all others would need to win 7 games (along with 1 defeat). To ensure all Div 1&2 teams need to win 6 games, I would tweak as follows - Direct Route Prelim Rd (14 Div 4&3 teams, 17 byes to Rd 1) Rd D1 (24 teams) Rd D2 (12 teams) Rd D3 (6 teams, 3 winners to AI KO QFs). Qualifiers Prelim Qual Rd Q1 (7 teams, 1 bye to Rd Q2) Rd Q1 (16 teams) Rd Q2 (14 teams) Rd Q3 (10 teams, 5 winners to AI KO QFs). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2535 - 16/04/2021 02:26:36 2337373 Link 0 |
Greenfield (Meath) .... I agree with you totally as regards the football Championship.... far too many meaningless one sided games... Nobody with a brain in their head would pay in to see a game where the result is a forgone conclusion...especially neutral supporters... Having a back door only adds more meaningless games and really serves no purpose... Been a straight knockout adds excitement to games as seen last season .. eg Cork v Kerry... if there was a back door the result would not have the same significance...everyone would say " Kerry will beat them when it counts later on "..... All games should count but they don't when there is a back door... Straight knockout brings more excitement to what has become a dour and boring football Championship for the last number of years....!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 16/04/2021 11:27:42 2337383 Link 1 |
Would agree. To a extent. That been said straight knockout only works if the provincials don't play a part. Open draw. Apart from that it's pointless, all counties can then look forward to a luck of the draw outcome and not face certain defeat when they face a professional team.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/04/2021 11:46:52 2337384 Link 1 |
The counter argument to that is that the All Ireland quarter final stage has seen some hotly contested fixtures. The 2 semifinals this year were a damp squib. Would there have been a bit of excitement if a top team like Tyrone/Donegal/Kerry/Galway have gotten another go at it last year. Would the Meath's/Kildare's/Monaghan/Armagh/Roscommon of the world have more chance of long term development Mitch more championship fixtures. These are the teams that can get left behind by not having more championship games. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 16/04/2021 11:52:45 2337385 Link 9 |
I would advocate an open draw certainly... my only reason for wanting to keep the provincial system would be to give some of the so called weaker counties a chance of winning something... The examples been my own county Cavan .... Tipperary last year too.... Roscommon in recent years in the west.... Monaghan in recent times... An open draw would rule out any chance of silver ware for these types of teams.... Let's be honest here... regardless of what system we use the same 3/4 teams will always end up in the semifinals or Finals but by keeping the provincial championships gives the smaller counties something to aim at .... I have absolutely no doubt that Tipperary and Cavan got more joy (and gave their supporters more joy) out of winning their provincial titles than Dublin got out of winning yet another All Ireland..... I think it would be a shame to loose all that.... What do others think...?
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 16/04/2021 12:16:24 2337386 Link 2 |
I see what you saying and don't disagree with the merits. That been said the so called weaker counties of Westmeath Laois, Offaly, Louth, Longford etc haven't a hope of winning any silverware and having their championship season end very abruptly due to the province they are in. Even the two other counties who would be considered strong and could easily be competitive in other provinces (Kildare and my own Meath) haven't a realistic chance of winning Leinster unless there's a huge upset, so while there is benefit for 3 provinces there is not for 10 counties in Leinster, I'd be happy to keep the provincials IF, they were ran as a stand alone competition with perhaps the winners of each province getting a bye in first round of a open draw.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/04/2021 13:47:01 2337392 Link 0 |
Scrap the provincials. Hanging onto them for nostalgia or whatever other reason is balderdash. With modern transport teams and supporters can travel anywhere in the country quite easily (even Kerry fans can make it Croke Park), so the days of having to play neighboring counties becoz a bicycle was all supporters had to go to the game are long, long gone. It tells a lot about a competition when people do not even know the name of the trophy that's being played for. So RoyalDunne, without looking it up, what's the name of the trophy that the Dubs have won 10 times in a row in Leinster for senior inter-county football? foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1887 - 16/04/2021 14:18:58 2337397 Link 0 |