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Low key enough build up for the U20s. Playing Down tomorrow at 2. Down suppose to be decent. Ryan McEvoy of Kilcoo would be one of their key players. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 14/02/2020 16:23:17 2267709 Link
Match now today at 1. Looking forward to it. Conditions still a bit ropey. BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 22/02/2020 10:14:28 2268938 Link
Did Cavan v Down go ahead today ? Anyone at it ? facer4home (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 22/02/2020 15:43:24 2269019 Link
Replying To facer4home: "Did Cavan v Down go ahead today ? Anyone at it ?" Yeah. Conditions not ideal, very windy. Pretty poor stuff from Cavan though if we're honest, they looked like a team that had only met this morning at times. What you're really looking for from these u20s is 3 or 4 guys who seem ready to step up to the seniors in the next 12 months or so. In that regard, I thought Oisin Brady looked the part, some great turnovers and has the athleticism. Mannion from ramor can certainly move with the ball too. And cormac o Reilly kicked 3 super points. Some of the other much hyped names had days to forget. GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 329 - 22/02/2020 16:31:26 2269028 Link
I don't know these fixtures weren't played midweek, the way U21 use to be run on Wednesday nights. Probaly too much pressure for players travelling midweek from College, but by having the games at weekend the U20s are an after thought with the Seniors also playing. It was also a strange desicion to only announce in October that the U20 competition would be starting in February. The previous 2 years it was in the summer. A short time frame for U20 managers to get a panel. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 24/02/2020 10:53:56 2269624 Link
Time for a change in management team at this level. I dont think the best is being got from what we have. For a team with a lot of scoring potential that was a pathetic return. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 24/02/2020 13:45:28 2269723 Link
Replying To GallantJohnJoe: "Yeah. Conditions not ideal, very windy. Pretty poor stuff from Cavan though if we're honest, they looked like a team that had only met this morning at times. What you're really looking for from these u20s is 3 or 4 guys who seem ready to step up to the seniors in the next 12 months or so. In that regard, I thought Oisin Brady looked the part, some great turnovers and has the athleticism. Mannion from ramor can certainly move with the ball too. And cormac o Reilly kicked 3 super points. Some of the other much hyped names had days to forget." Would agree with your only meeting up the morning of the game comments. Particularly in the forward department, we looked clueless in attack and depending on individuals to come up with something. Cormac O' Reilly angled points aside, the only other way to score seemed to be to get frees from running directly at crowded defences. Not a huge amount of standouts that you would say are definite Seniors in a few years. No. 4 Killian Brady is definitely on the small side but did everything right and looks a classy all round player. He and O' Reilly would be the two biggest hopes for me. No. 3 Peter Smith & 5. Philip Nulty also had a good games marking the two inside forwards. Most of the defence had done well up until the killer goal against what looked a decent Down forward line. The big men 8, 9 & 11 also look like good strong ball carriers and won a good few frees in the danger zone but were definitely 2nd best when it came to winning kickouts. PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 24/02/2020 13:59:23 2269735 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Time for a change in management team at this level. I dont think the best is being got from what we have. For a team with a lot of scoring potential that was a pathetic return." Sack the manager? What an insightful and original comment. I heard the Sun are looking for reporters, you should send in your CV. Setantawatchl (Cavan) - Posts: 132 - 29/02/2020 17:41:16 2270895 Link
Replying To Setantawatchl: "Sack the manager? What an insightful and original comment. I heard the Sun are looking for reporters, you should send in your CV." Hes not up to this level, it's been clear for years. But the way we dont "sack" managers in GAA. Thats like something The Sun would print. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 01/03/2020 21:30:46 2271379 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Hes not up to this level, it's been clear for years. But the way we dont "sack" managers in GAA. Thats like something The Sun would print." Your sentiments even if you're in denial Explain your comment about the manager Setantawatchl (Cavan) - Posts: 132 - 13/03/2020 23:31:44 2273767 Link
The conduct the day of the postponed Down game was extraordinary. GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 329 - 14/03/2020 16:53:52 2273814 Link
Bringing up last years thread but very poor showing from the U20s tonight unfortunately. Their football was far too negative and lacklustre. Down broke at speed and played on the counter. Even when we won a turn over and had extra men on the break we were too pedestrian. I don't see why we are training all these athletes if we don't want to utilise the physical traits they are developing in our game plan. BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 09/07/2021 23:15:16 2358197 Link
I said at the time when we won 4 Ulster U-21 titles in a row that Cavan would pay a heavy price because of the manner in which those successes were achieved… I went to the first two Finals but couldn't bring myself to watch that muck again… All our teams are now drowning in a complete negative form of playing the game and as a result have developed no potent forwards in the last 8/10 years… This is all down to negative thinking management that has blighted us for some time… Last year's heroic Ulster win I fear may be an oasis in a desert and might be more put down to the unforeseen year we all had rather than any sort of progress been made at county level…. the results and performances since seem to bare that out too… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 10/07/2021 13:07:49 2358266 Link
Cavan abandoned the defensive approach at u21/20 under a few different managers and got big hammering. Donegal u21 beat Cavan u21 under Niall Lynch 3-17 to 13. The following year under Kevin Downes ,Donegal u20s beat Cavan 2-21 to 10pts. There's no easy solution. Cavan hadn't won anything In a long time under age so that approach was fine at the time.. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 10/07/2021 13:32:27 2358273 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "Cavan abandoned the defensive approach at u21/20 under a few different managers and got big hammering. Donegal u21 beat Cavan u21 under Niall Lynch 3-17 to 13. The following year under Kevin Downes ,Donegal u20s beat Cavan 2-21 to 10pts. There's no easy solution. Cavan hadn't won anything In a long time under age so that approach was fine at the time.." That might be but winning u-21's mean absolutely nothing if it negates success at senior level… the point I was making was that we didn't produce any decent forwards from those teams because of the dreadful negative approach…. I would trade those 4 titles for 2/3 reliable forwards who could be trusted to land scores on a regular basis… Those teams produced none but then how could they….? ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 10/07/2021 14:10:36 2358276 Link
I don't think it negated success at Senior. Cavan went from Division 3 to 1 with a lot of those players. U21 and 20 is knockout football. You don't have a league unlike Senior to work on a lot of different styles and a change of panel each year. Maybe Peter Reilly could have charged the style a bit as the foundation was in place before he took over Madden from those teams has probably made the most impact at Senior. Niall McDermot should still be in with the panel, one of the best club forwards FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 10/07/2021 14:59:10 2358283 Link