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Leave the game alone. Nothing wrong with it. Football and hurling are two completely different games. Simple as. Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 22/02/2020 21:18:22 2269097 Link
After Dublin vs Wexford tonight if that ref had another colour card there would have been no one left playing. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 22/02/2020 22:09:17 2269128 Link
Replying To arock: "After Dublin vs Wexford tonight if that ref had another colour card there would have been no one left playing." That hurling ref this evening was to say the least frustrating, he was mad keen to give frees. Davey could have done a pitch invasion. Whatever about football hurling is a sport that cries out for two refs. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 22/02/2020 22:53:06 2269148 Link
Replying To Ulsterchamps_32: "That hurling ref this evening was to say the least frustrating, he was mad keen to give frees. Davey could have done a pitch invasion. Whatever about football hurling is a sport that cries out for two refs." Agree! Referees are usually never up with the play. Players play for frees. Referees, due to their own incompetence are too happy to blow the whistle. It has taken away from the natural flow and competitiveness of the game! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 23/02/2020 19:37:49 2269406 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Agree! Referees are usually never up with the play. Players play for frees. Referees, due to their own incompetence are too happy to blow the whistle. It has taken away from the natural flow and competitiveness of the game!" He was brutal. There were a couple of newspaper articles this week about illegal hand passing which he obviously read. He pulled players up for it 4 times in the first 10 mins. There was no way he could have spotted 3 of them. I think it was 13 yellows and 3 sent off and there wasn't a dirty stroke in the game Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 23/02/2020 23:43:45 2269544 Link
Replying To Ej: "He was brutal. There were a couple of newspaper articles this week about illegal hand passing which he obviously read. He pulled players up for it 4 times in the first 10 mins. There was no way he could have spotted 3 of them. I think it was 13 yellows and 3 sent off and there wasn't a dirty stroke in the game" There may not have been a directive from the top this particular weekend but there was one since the start of the league. They just eased off a little during the storm weekends. The refs and the Gaa are using the league to flex their authority on technical fouls and its been obvious for a few years. I cant say I completely disagree with them. Rules are rules. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 24/02/2020 09:39:18 2269592 Link
At half time of last years All-Ireland all that was said "by the letter of the law Richie Hogan's hit was a sending off offense" "the same rules have to be applied weather it is an All-Ireland or a league game in February". Now a ref applies all the rules in the book and it is frustrating according to RTE's Anthony Daly. I agree it is frustrating a ref is there to apply rules as he sees fit if they are going to call every infraction Wexford and Dublin is what we are going to see. Not every game is the same it is up to the ref to get a feel for the game and apply the rules accordingly. Having said that I applaud calling players for throwing the ball it has gone too far. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 24/02/2020 12:22:44 2269678 Link
Black card heavily defeated. Democracy works. Life goes on. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 29/02/2020 12:27:06 2270821 Link
Maybe it's time to get rid of the referee altogeher in hurling? A hooter that is programmed a week before the game can signal the halves and let them at it and if they players all agree they want to play on a bit longer that would be fine too. If that's successful we could look at getting rid of the ball eventually! Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 29/02/2020 13:26:15 2270832 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Agree! Referees are usually never up with the play. Players play for frees. Referees, due to their own incompetence are too happy to blow the whistle. It has taken away from the natural flow and competitiveness of the game!" So you complain that refs are incompetent and are too happy to blow the whistle yet agree that we need two of them!! Explain please! Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 29/02/2020 13:35:49 2270835 Link
Replying To gatha: "At half time of last years All-Ireland all that was said "by the letter of the law Richie Hogan's hit was a sending off offense" "the same rules have to be applied weather it is an All-Ireland or a league game in February". Now a ref applies all the rules in the book and it is frustrating according to RTE's Anthony Daly. I agree it is frustrating a ref is there to apply rules as he sees fit if they are going to call every infraction Wexford and Dublin is what we are going to see. Not every game is the same it is up to the ref to get a feel for the game and apply the rules accordingly. Having said that I applaud calling players for throwing the ball it has gone too far." Sensible comment even if you did have to mention Richie Hogan again! Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 29/02/2020 13:38:21 2270837 Link
Never going to get approved, lousy idea. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 29/02/2020 14:07:38 2270843 Link
Replying To Sindar: "Sensible comment even if you did have to mention Richie Hogan again!" I mention the All-Ireland because Anthony Daly was saying you have to go by the letter of the law, but he found the Wexford Dublin game frustrating. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 29/02/2020 14:55:39 2270856 Link
Sean Kelly says it all "We should be slow to introduce something to hurling that isn't 100 percent satisfactory in football at the minute. We should take into account the views of the players." After watching Tyrone and Dublin players doing their best to get each other sent to the sin bin, I coud'nt agree more Sean. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 29/02/2020 21:19:22 2270949 Link
Whatever about black cards, hurling needs a raft of new rules... Instead of penalising the illegal handpass, ban it and instead of two catches, make it one and players get rid of the ball. Two catches is a license to overcarry which in turn, given defending players cannot legally tackle a player who has the ball in his hand, leads to endless fouling. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/02/2020 23:03:57 2270990 Link
Replying To carlovia: "Black card heavily defeated. Democracy works. Life goes on." Agree with you on this one! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/02/2020 23:29:28 2270996 Link
I know it was defeated and its was probably right result. That said, hurling would want to tread carefully and don't give people a reason to bring it in. Over the weekend there was enough evidence of cynical play in hurling that would be deemed Black card territory.... There were 3 red cards in Waterford/Tipp and would some have been blacks cards, i'm thinking of the second one in particular?? ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 02/03/2020 16:19:01 2271720 Link
Replying To bennybunny: "Whatever about black cards, hurling needs a raft of new rules... Instead of penalising the illegal handpass, ban it and instead of two catches, make it one and players get rid of the ball. Two catches is a license to overcarry which in turn, given defending players cannot legally tackle a player who has the ball in his hand, leads to endless fouling." Good points there. THE Possesion game and in particular the handpass is too simple a skill, doesn't look particularly good and is partly the reason that players are being smothered when in possession of the ball. The hook and block are well defined tackles but there is no way to tackle a handpass so players are swarming players with the ball instead and pulling and dragging and fouling. More hurling less handpasses. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 02/03/2020 19:39:11 2271775 Link
Replying To ZUL10: "Good points there. THE Possesion game and in particular the handpass is too simple a skill, doesn't look particularly good and is partly the reason that players are being smothered when in possession of the ball. The hook and block are well defined tackles but there is no way to tackle a handpass so players are swarming players with the ball instead and pulling and dragging and fouling. More hurling less handpasses." I fully agree ZUL10. There was a time when the handpass was used only when a player didn't have space to swing his hurley. Now some players use the handpass almost as often as the hurley. It's a useful tactic to help an under pressure defender to get the ball to a loose colleague but there is nothing particularly exciting about watching a team bringing the sliotar half way up the pitch with a whole series of handpasses. It may demand high levels of teamwork and fitness but it's taking a lot of the skill out of the game. Dare I say it, it can be a bit like Gaelic football? midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 02/03/2020 20:40:35 2271786 Link
Replying To midlands: "I fully agree ZUL10. There was a time when the handpass was used only when a player didn't have space to swing his hurley. Now some players use the handpass almost as often as the hurley. It's a useful tactic to help an under pressure defender to get the ball to a loose colleague but there is nothing particularly exciting about watching a team bringing the sliotar half way up the pitch with a whole series of handpasses. It may demand high levels of teamwork and fitness but it's taking a lot of the skill out of the game. Dare I say it, it can be a bit like Gaelic football?" I didnt want to say it but your right. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 02/03/2020 20:55:08 2271792 Link