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Davy Gough

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A good ref spots fouls and has proper officials working with him, they are his team, if they play poorly then he plays poorly, it is the biggest load of bull when people say he lets the game flow instead of blowing up for a foul, we had a few club refs that were bang on for the 1st 15 mins, any constant fouling, any off the ball incidents then you were sent to the line, they were telling the teams I'm the boss, Davy Gough is probably the best of a poor lot, there are plenty of refs which most GAA supporters will say are poor yet they still manage to ref All Ireland semis and final, how many more times will Dublin Joe be allowed to ref games involving the capital and everybody complains but the top brass in Croke Park won't listen, remember the shocking performance in 2014 Kerry v Mayo All Ireland semi final in Limerick, he should never have been allowed to ref a challenge match again never mind League and Championship but he was back last year or was it 2017

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 09/06/2019 16:27:18    2192211

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Get off your knees! I wouldnt let Gough near my kids under 10 match. His marker could eye gauche him and stamp on him for good measure and still be on the field for another act of thuggery if he wanted."
That was the job of the umpires and/or linesmen. Even then, you would need to have been standing beside Tiernan McCann to see exactly what was going on. The only judge in this circumstance will be retrospective video evidence unless you want to start judging people without sufficient evidence, innocent or guilty.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/06/2019 17:43:12    2192246

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Agreed and the best thing about it is they will always be free to referee major finals and semi finals."
Salty....

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 648 - 09/06/2019 18:02:58    2192255

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Replying To riverboys:  "A good ref spots fouls and has proper officials working with him, they are his team, if they play poorly then he plays poorly, it is the biggest load of bull when people say he lets the game flow instead of blowing up for a foul, we had a few club refs that were bang on for the 1st 15 mins, any constant fouling, any off the ball incidents then you were sent to the line, they were telling the teams I'm the boss, Davy Gough is probably the best of a poor lot, there are plenty of refs which most GAA supporters will say are poor yet they still manage to ref All Ireland semis and final, how many more times will Dublin Joe be allowed to ref games involving the capital and everybody complains but the top brass in Croke Park won't listen, remember the shocking performance in 2014 Kerry v Mayo All Ireland semi final in Limerick, he should never have been allowed to ref a challenge match again never mind League and Championship but he was back last year or was it 2017"
I heard from a few former refs that when doing a game as linesman are also refs they are not very helpful as if you have a poor game they may climb up the pecking order for consideration for future games

RAHKILL (Westmeath) - Posts: 395 - 09/06/2019 18:19:36    2192266

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Replying To RAHKILL:  "I heard from a few former refs that when doing a game as linesman are also refs they are not very helpful as if you have a poor game they may climb up the pecking order for consideration for future games"
The Kerry v Msyo game was refereed by Cormac Reilly who hasn't been near a big game since although he was on the line in today's Dublin match.
Bad enough slagging Joe off without blaming him for a match he didn't do.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 09/06/2019 19:50:48    2192342

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Replying To BoynesideBlue:  "The Kerry v Msyo game was refereed by Cormac Reilly who hasn't been near a big game since although he was on the line in today's Dublin match.
Bad enough slagging Joe off without blaming him for a match he didn't do."
You should reread my post I didn't refer to any ref

RAHKILL (Westmeath) - Posts: 395 - 09/06/2019 20:12:58    2192359

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I like David Geogh but he hadn't a great day out yesterday. Peter Harte card was very harsh. He also gave a kick out to Donegal when it was clearly a free in. Don't get me wrong Donegal were brilliant but they got all decions in their favour in the first half. No place in the GAA for what Mc Cann did but he got a lot of attention all afternoon and if he'd won the lotto he couldn't have bought a free. When the second half got underway the ref tried to compensate and even things up.
Donegal are most probable the team that will be in this year's final. They're brilliant set up on the field and in the backroom. Very promising and professional

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 09/06/2019 20:24:49    2192369

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Replying To Donegalman:  "That was the job of the umpires and/or linesmen. Even then, you would need to have been standing beside Tiernan McCann to see exactly what was going on. The only judge in this circumstance will be retrospective video evidence unless you want to start judging people without sufficient evidence, innocent or guilty."
The umpires and linesmen deal with off the ball incidents. It's the referees job to be responsible for any in-play incidents. You'll see the ball is still in McMenamanin's grip as McCann goes to work on him. Anyways, my post was in jest with the apparent refereeing mastery of Meath officials from their own lot (surprise!).

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 09/06/2019 21:02:17    2192399

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I've said this about Gough before;

The casual or neutral fan loves watching him referee a game because he lets a lot go.

But that doesn't make him a good ref! The referee's job is to apply the rules. All refs referee games slightly differently but most of the time, you know what you're going to get from the top refs. With Gough you just can't be sure, and that must be incredibly frustrating for the players.

Coldrick is probably the best and most consistent at the moment, and even then, I wasn't happy with him the last time he took charge of a Cavan game (v Tyrone last year).

It's an incredibly tough job, particularly at the top level with the pace of the modern game and the closeness of the rule book in some areas.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 09/06/2019 21:34:30    2192435

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Replying To RAHKILL:  "You should reread my post I didn't refer to any ref"
It was Riverboys post I was on about

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 09/06/2019 22:40:36    2192485

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Replying To TheUsername:  "They will be described as Dubs some how though."
Hope you had money on that

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That predictable

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/08/2019 19:44:11    2228614

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Hope you had money on that

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That predictable"
Ha ha, we tried to look surprised to be fair to us, we've seen it and heard it all at this stage, wind them up and watch them go.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 22/08/2019 20:28:37    2228622

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