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Replying To FoolsGold:  "There is plenty. A lot of corporate business people. .
1/3 of the irish rugby team have no link to ireland only through residency rule."
1/3 of irish rugby team dont just qualify on residency rule. name them all. think youll make mistakes.
you say plenty and then a lot are "corporate business people" how many is plenty how many is a lot?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3887 - 01/12/2025 16:53:27    2646671

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Every competition has a name and trophy, what was the name of competition and trophy the Ireland rugby team played for in their last 4 matches?"
Well the good news is from next season it will be a competition proper with a cup presented to the winners. It will consist of the summer internationals where the 6 nations teams head down below. Then it'll be finished with the Autumn internationals where the teams from down under come here. It'll be a type of annual world cup and will be good that teams will play home and away.

If you think the games have been big and getting a lot of attention till now well it's going to bigger and better from next year and I, for one, am really looking forward to it!

Look it up, "The Nations Championship"

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 403 - 01/12/2025 17:06:41    2646679

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Replying To Square_B:  "Would you not be happy with that Kew? I mean you gave out enough when the GAA rented out Croke Park to Leinster. Can't keep you happy it would seem."
:-) Brilliant!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 403 - 01/12/2025 17:07:31    2646680

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There won't be an extension to Croke Park

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 261 - 01/12/2025 17:11:30    2646682

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Well the good news is from next season it will be a competition proper with a cup presented to the winners. It will consist of the summer internationals where the 6 nations teams head down below. Then it'll be finished with the Autumn internationals where the teams from down under come here. It'll be a type of annual world cup and will be good that teams will play home and away.

If you think the games have been big and getting a lot of attention till now well it's going to bigger and better from next year and I, for one, am really looking forward to it!

Look it up, "The Nations Championship""
It'll be riveting alright.

alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 123 - 01/12/2025 18:58:57    2646690

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The only extension we need is an extension to this redicioulously short gaa season. The gaa are cutting off their own own oxygen supply and we are innocent victims of a blinded alley. Please nobody try to make sense of the whole lot because that's impossible when greed is to the forefront. Money from concerts etc directed to grassroots does not have the same power as money from 164,000 fans in croker in September with the possibility of a replay in October..Exposure of our players is what will sustain our game not easy monet from concerts etc. A very prominent intercounty manager recently publicly said that the club season was too long and who could argue with him pointing out the obvious.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 32 - 02/12/2025 00:05:00    2646722

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Every competition has a name and trophy, what was the name of competition and trophy the Ireland rugby team played for in their last 4 matches?"
The Ulster Football Championship didnt until 1925. Does that mean all the winners before that only won a few friendlies?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 10:21:58    2646741

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Replying To alalalalalum:  "Paying 160 euro to watch a meaningless friendly in rugby is mind boggling."
So don't do it?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 10:22:50    2646742

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Rugby tickets aren't cheap. Varies between 100e to 190 for a Ireland game. More affordable for a family to go to a Ireland soccer game. A lot of event junkees at Rugby games. . Many more interested in getting drinks in then watching the game"
How much are seats for an International Football or Hurling game?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 10:24:07    2646743

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "There is plenty. A lot of corporate business people. .
1/3 of the irish rugby team have no link to ireland only through residency rule."
Name them

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 10:38:29    2646744

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "The only extension we need is an extension to this redicioulously short gaa season. The gaa are cutting off their own own oxygen supply and we are innocent victims of a blinded alley. Please nobody try to make sense of the whole lot because that's impossible when greed is to the forefront. Money from concerts etc directed to grassroots does not have the same power as money from 164,000 fans in croker in September with the possibility of a replay in October..Exposure of our players is what will sustain our game not easy monet from concerts etc. A very prominent intercounty manager recently publicly said that the club season was too long and who could argue with him pointing out the obvious."
How is the club season too long? Clubs are the lifeblood of the GAA, not the intercounty scene and its largely bandwagon supporters. Don't get me wrong, I bring the kids to near enough every Wexford Football and Hurling game every year, including some challenge games. But I think the balance is about right. And most of the lads you see at the bigger intercounty games are pure bandwagoners, like the lads people on this forum criticise for going to Ireland rugby internationals. Where are they in January and February? Most of them arent supporting their county heroes anyway.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 10:44:08    2646745

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "The only extension we need is an extension to this redicioulously short gaa season. The gaa are cutting off their own own oxygen supply and we are innocent victims of a blinded alley. Please nobody try to make sense of the whole lot because that's impossible when greed is to the forefront. Money from concerts etc directed to grassroots does not have the same power as money from 164,000 fans in croker in September with the possibility of a replay in October..Exposure of our players is what will sustain our game not easy monet from concerts etc. A very prominent intercounty manager recently publicly said that the club season was too long and who could argue with him pointing out the obvious."
The GAA season ladts for 50 weeks every year.
The Inter County Season gets 29 weeks.
There are thousands of GAA Club Championship games in the 21 other weeks.

€1 from a concert = €1.
€1 from a match =€1.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 261 - 02/12/2025 11:08:02    2646751

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Replying To KillingFields:  "1/3 of irish rugby team dont just qualify on residency rule. name them all. think youll make mistakes.
you say plenty and then a lot are "corporate business people" how many is plenty how many is a lot?"
Gibson Park, Bundee Aki, James Lowe finlay bealham
.i presumd you wanted me to slip up with Mack hansen

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2910 - 02/12/2025 13:10:50    2646769

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Gibson Park, Bundee Aki, James Lowe finlay bealham
.i presumd you wanted me to slip up with Mack hansen"
Finlay Bealham qualifies on ancestory not residency. He was on the 23 v SA. Its a long time since I was in a maths class but 3 out of 23 is not anywhere near a third.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 15:00:21    2646785

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Replying To Viking66:  "Name them"
Aki, Gibson Park, Lowe, Hansen, not sure about Bealham.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2487 - 02/12/2025 16:39:43    2646806

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It's 3 out of 15, he said team not squad. Still a very high percentage especially as Gibson is their best player and without him they'd struggle to beat Wales

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2487 - 02/12/2025 16:42:11    2646808

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "The only extension we need is an extension to this redicioulously short gaa season. The gaa are cutting off their own own oxygen supply and we are innocent victims of a blinded alley. Please nobody try to make sense of the whole lot because that's impossible when greed is to the forefront. Money from concerts etc directed to grassroots does not have the same power as money from 164,000 fans in croker in September with the possibility of a replay in October..Exposure of our players is what will sustain our game not easy monet from concerts etc. A very prominent intercounty manager recently publicly said that the club season was too long and who could argue with him pointing out the obvious."
What exposure did the GAA get for the intercounty football and hurling championships in August and September for many years before the split season?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8377 - 02/12/2025 17:03:38    2646809

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "It's 3 out of 15, he said team not squad. Still a very high percentage especially as Gibson is their best player and without him they'd struggle to beat Wales"
He must've meant panel as he named a lad who wasn't on the 15, and is of Irish descent in any case.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17658 - 02/12/2025 17:07:36    2646811

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "What exposure did the GAA get for the intercounty football and hurling championships in August and September for many years before the split season?"
In football you had 4 quarter finals, 2 semi finals and a final thats 7 games. In hurling you had 2 semi finals and a final thats 3 games. So you had a total of 10 games, occasions where Croke park was full 8 times as quarters in football were usually double headers. We sometimes saw replays in October. The schools both national & secondary had a great buzz in them not to mention schools in those counties involved and that was 4 counties in football and 2 in hurling (semis in hurling & quarters in football played before schools opened). There was always the banter of who would win and who would get the 2 school tickets. The kids always asked for the game to be shown again on the Monday!! The GAA have really let those young people down and you know what the season the way it was was great for older viewers also. It was great for the game and it really is a shame. Gaa people forked out for that stadium.. Its long paid for. Im not against concerts or the money they bring in but cutting out 2 months of the season is wrong. The tv schedules cannot keep up with the condensed season and while Im on it the problem was never the long season it is the amount of traing players were/are doing which is of course money driven and players are been wrung out. Counties are still plodding in muck in Late Oct & early Nov in county finals and the same players starting training in Jan!!. Thats a fine split season!! Mickey Harte let club games go ahead and it didnt affect them too bad over the years. Managers dictated to co boards over fixtures ....Money money money!! Itll come home to roost mark my words.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 32 - 02/12/2025 18:30:08    2646822

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Replying To Seanfan:  "The GAA season ladts for 50 weeks every year.
The Inter County Season gets 29 weeks.
There are thousands of GAA Club Championship games in the 21 other weeks.

€1 from a concert = €1.
€1 from a match =€1."
To put it like that of course you are right. Have the concerts from late Sept onwards...Have concerts and games but dont let the concert schedule decide the gaa fixtures schedule. Bring back the finals 2 weeks but not 2 months. We will pay dearly for this.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 32 - 02/12/2025 18:34:35    2646823

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