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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "Wexford have being unlucky with injuries and obviously chin is the heartbeat of this team and reck is a excellent hurler but the performance Saturday evening was very poor. It was a 6 point hammering.The 2 early goals put a bit of a gloss on the scoreboard.12 points and a number if them frees is a very poor return in championship hurling.
Chin is injury prone and Egan has to mind him. Egan probably targeted the next 3 games to get 3rd spot in leinster.tmThere is going to be massive holes left In this team in the next year or 2. Dee o Keefe,Liam og and Hanlon are in the twilight of their careers. How long more can Chin give himself the hardship he's getting.
Daveys few years gave supporters a few good days out but ultimately only 1 leinster final in return. This team was built on a couple of successful u21 teams.if the u20 could get silverware this year it would be a big boost. When supporters reflect on the last few years they will be dissapointed more wasn't won at senior.
Teams will always get injuries but I wonder has Daveys high intensity training the last few years not helped with these injuries With a few lads out it was time for Conor Mac to step up but he has never reached his potential. Rory o connor granted only returning after a long lay off has yet to reach his full potential.
Granted everyone can't have a big panel like limerick but Wexford are very reliant on the bare 15 and the older lads like Chin and dee o Keefe. If young lads aren't introduced and start making an impression it's going to be a very bleak time in a short few years.No disrespect to antrim but The fact that people are nervous about playing ANTRIM at home sums up where Wexford are at the moment and I think we're on a slippery slope right now. Definitely worrying times ahead." Think that's a bit disrespectful to Antrim. Apart from when Tipp thrashed their 2nd team in the League they have performed very well against all the top 9 counties. In the last 2 years they have beaten Clare and drew with ourselves and Dublin in League and Championship. And ran Cork and Kilkenny fairly close also.
I wouldn't say I'm nervous about them but I think your post sums up alot of what's wrong with us over the years. The top teams prepare for EVERY game as if they were playing the AI champions. Subconsciously we, especially the supporters, seem to assume we only have to turn up to beat the middle tier counties. We only drew with Westmeath last year. And Kerry gave us plenty to think about into the 2nd half in Tralee. Our history since the 60s, or maybe the 70s, is littered with walking on banana skins, at every age group and level, because we just didn't pay enough attention where we were treading.
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Replying To Viking66: "Think that's a bit disrespectful to Antrim. Apart from when Tipp thrashed their 2nd team in the League they have performed very well against all the top 9 counties. In the last 2 years they have beaten Clare and drew with ourselves and Dublin in League and Championship. And ran Cork and Kilkenny fairly close also.
I wouldn't say I'm nervous about them but I think your post sums up alot of what's wrong with us over the years. The top teams prepare for EVERY game as if they were playing the AI champions. Subconsciously we, especially the supporters, seem to assume we only have to turn up to beat the middle tier counties. We only drew with Westmeath last year. And Kerry gave us plenty to think about into the 2nd half in Tralee. Our history since the 60s, or maybe the 70s, is littered with walking on banana skins, at every age group and level, because we just didn't pay enough attention where we were treading." I remember losing to Roscommon in the centenary cup back in '84 and we then went out and beat Kilkenny in Leinster semi!
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 26/04/2023 10:54:09
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Replying To Viking66: "Think that's a bit disrespectful to Antrim. Apart from when Tipp thrashed their 2nd team in the League they have performed very well against all the top 9 counties. In the last 2 years they have beaten Clare and drew with ourselves and Dublin in League and Championship. And ran Cork and Kilkenny fairly close also.
I wouldn't say I'm nervous about them but I think your post sums up alot of what's wrong with us over the years. The top teams prepare for EVERY game as if they were playing the AI champions. Subconsciously we, especially the supporters, seem to assume we only have to turn up to beat the middle tier counties. We only drew with Westmeath last year. And Kerry gave us plenty to think about into the 2nd half in Tralee. Our history since the 60s, or maybe the 70s, is littered with walking on banana skins, at every age group and level, because we just didn't pay enough attention where we were treading." Wexford are not that far ahead of the Antrims, Westmeaths and Kerry's as we think.
Take out 3 or 4 players and we are right there with them.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 970 - 26/04/2023 10:58:37
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Replying To Viking66: "Think that's a bit disrespectful to Antrim. Apart from when Tipp thrashed their 2nd team in the League they have performed very well against all the top 9 counties. In the last 2 years they have beaten Clare and drew with ourselves and Dublin in League and Championship. And ran Cork and Kilkenny fairly close also.
I wouldn't say I'm nervous about them but I think your post sums up alot of what's wrong with us over the years. The top teams prepare for EVERY game as if they were playing the AI champions. Subconsciously we, especially the supporters, seem to assume we only have to turn up to beat the middle tier counties. We only drew with Westmeath last year. And Kerry gave us plenty to think about into the 2nd half in Tralee. Our history since the 60s, or maybe the 70s, is littered with walking on banana skins, at every age group and level, because we just didn't pay enough attention where we were treading." If the match was in Belfast I'd give Antrim a shout but i reckon that Wexford Park and the knowledge that they will have to be properly prepared for a tough game will see Wexford win, and probably comfortably enough.
The most notable feature of Antrim i think is that their physical level is vastly improved in last couple of years. They were always a dogged team traditionally but watching them against Dublin for most of last ten years they were easily out muscled. That is no longer the case, although I've seen some people wonder whether they perhaps tired in last quarter against ourselves. Possibly, so it will be big ask to lift it for another day.
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "I remember losing to Roscommon in the centenary cup back in '84 and we then went out and beat Kilkenny in Leinster semi!" Roscommon were handy enough back then. They beat - literally! - Dublin around same time in what has been preserved in lore as "The Battle of Athleague." Not for the feint-hearted .....
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Let's just say that even if the stories are only 10% true, a lot of Wexford men had fairly heavy heads as they hurled against Roscommon that day. Was still a massive shock, though.
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "I remember losing to Roscommon in the centenary cup back in '84 and we then went out and beat Kilkenny in Leinster semi!" This post sums up Wexford hurling. Can beat anybody and can loose to anyone ha
Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 26/04/2023 11:48:50
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "My team for Saturday would be
Lawlor
S. Reck Ryan. Devitt
Donohoe. Ohanlon. Flood
Okeeffe. Hearne
Mogie. Jack O. Rory
Lawlor. Mac. Dunbar
Backs more or less pick themselves. Assuming Conor foley plays for u20's and chinner and reck aren't available Looking for a forward line that's capable of racking up a decent score. Think the six there can do that and offer a real goal threat." Ian Carty is fully back in training I wouldn't mind seeing him starting wing back. Flood has looked leggy after recovering from a bad pnemonia in fairness to him it's not easy getting back to the pace of the game after that. Think Chin probably will be fit enough to at least start on the bench but would be worried about Damien even for the Dublin game. If he felt a strain in his hamstring he could be very lucky to make it back for the Dublin game.
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Not sure about Damien but i expect Chin to play and i think we will win by 6 or 7 points with a decent performance to boot.
We were poor on Saturday but it had the makings of a good performance and i think they will build on that. I would like to see a bit more organisation, urgency and tempo about everything on Saturday from Warm Ups, freetaking and puck outs. We need to be decicive and understand who is taking frees/ penalties/ 65s/ lineballs and take the game to Antrim.
If we do that i think we will win with a bit to spare.
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I think Wexford will beat Antrim and if they don't the year could completely unravel for them to a point where a game v Westmeath becomes a relegation 6 pointer so to speak.
But I said it before and say it again, the lads aged 22-26 need to commit to it or Wexford are going nowhere. As a resident here supporting my 2nd team, I really hope I am proven wrong.
A Leinster U20 for Dublin or Wexford, or indeed a Leinster Final involving the 2 would do hurling in both a power of good.
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "I remember losing to Roscommon in the centenary cup back in '84 and we then went out and beat Kilkenny in Leinster semi!" I don't remember it but I read about it after an older friend told me about it. Apparently the lads went out the night before. Some of them could hardly walk they were so drunk by closing. That's exactly what I meant by our not taking opponents seriously over the years.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:25:14
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What's the story with fanning?
gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 26/04/2023 12:36:37
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "If the match was in Belfast I'd give Antrim a shout but i reckon that Wexford Park and the knowledge that they will have to be properly prepared for a tough game will see Wexford win, and probably comfortably enough.
The most notable feature of Antrim i think is that their physical level is vastly improved in last couple of years. They were always a dogged team traditionally but watching them against Dublin for most of last ten years they were easily out muscled. That is no longer the case, although I've seen some people wonder whether they perhaps tired in last quarter against ourselves. Possibly, so it will be big ask to lift it for another day." They have more players of a better standard playing intercounty these days Barney. Gleeson has got more of the better hurlers to commit to intercounty than used to be the case up there.
Best not to forget also Antrim clubs record in the AI club championship. 5 different Antrim clubs have reached AI finals, the same number as Cork. Only Galway clubs with 8, and Kilkenny clubs with 7, have more different clubs reaching the decider. There's always been a strong hurling tradition in Antrim going back 100s of years.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:38:39
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "I remember losing to Roscommon in the centenary cup back in '84 and we then went out and beat Kilkenny in Leinster semi!" We only lost the Leinster final that year to Offaly by a point that year too I think.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:42:22
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Roscommon were handy enough back then. They beat - literally! - Dublin around same time in what has been preserved in lore as "The Battle of Athleague." Not for the feint-hearted ....." The following year we lost the Leinster SF to Laois after Laois hammered Dublin by 10 points in the QF.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:43:30
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Replying To Afinestick: "Ian Carty is fully back in training I wouldn't mind seeing him starting wing back. Flood has looked leggy after recovering from a bad pnemonia in fairness to him it's not easy getting back to the pace of the game after that. Think Chin probably will be fit enough to at least start on the bench but would be worried about Damien even for the Dublin game. If he felt a strain in his hamstring he could be very lucky to make it back for the Dublin game." Did you go into the Park last night?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:44:25
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Replying To Afinestick: "Ian Carty is fully back in training I wouldn't mind seeing him starting wing back. Flood has looked leggy after recovering from a bad pnemonia in fairness to him it's not easy getting back to the pace of the game after that. Think Chin probably will be fit enough to at least start on the bench but would be worried about Damien even for the Dublin game. If he felt a strain in his hamstring he could be very lucky to make it back for the Dublin game." Did you go into the Park last night? For sure I'd rather have Carty wingback than Flood or Foley. The u20 game in Westmeath is knockout. Conor Foley is our best player at that grade.
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Replying To LarryOBrother: "Not sure about Damien but i expect Chin to play and i think we will win by 6 or 7 points with a decent performance to boot.
We were poor on Saturday but it had the makings of a good performance and i think they will build on that. I would like to see a bit more organisation, urgency and tempo about everything on Saturday from Warm Ups, freetaking and puck outs. We need to be decicive and understand who is taking frees/ penalties/ 65s/ lineballs and take the game to Antrim.
If we do that i think we will win with a bit to spare." Agreed Larry. We need to pretend Antrim are Kilkenny for the evening and we should win then.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 26/04/2023 12:46:50
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Replying To Afinestick: "Ian Carty is fully back in training I wouldn't mind seeing him starting wing back. Flood has looked leggy after recovering from a bad pnemonia in fairness to him it's not easy getting back to the pace of the game after that. Think Chin probably will be fit enough to at least start on the bench but would be worried about Damien even for the Dublin game. If he felt a strain in his hamstring he could be very lucky to make it back for the Dublin game." If he's fit to go he deserves to start. He's been one of the few positives this year
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 26/04/2023 12:47:33
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I think Wexford will beat Antrim and if they don't the year could completely unravel for them to a point where a game v Westmeath becomes a relegation 6 pointer so to speak.
But I said it before and say it again, the lads aged 22-26 need to commit to it or Wexford are going nowhere. As a resident here supporting my 2nd team, I really hope I am proven wrong.
A Leinster U20 for Dublin or Wexford, or indeed a Leinster Final involving the 2 would do hurling in both a power of good." If we don't beat Antrim we would need to win the last 3 to qualify for the AI series. Which isn't far fetched either. But if we are to achieve something this year, as in win something, we really need to win and win well. Show some sort of structure to our play, and look like we are a serious team who are tactically set up right and well motivated. Scraping a win by 1 point playing in a disjointed and scrappy manner isn't going to do anything for us going forwards really. It only gives us one more week to get our ducks in a line.
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