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Adrian Tuohy

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well i suppose this will open up a can of worms with my galway friends but its not meant to. Adrian Touhy was highlighted on the sunday game for the helmet related incident with bonnar yesterday. im really not sure if many people saw it at the time? there was no mention of it by the commentators...but i did see it and i rewound it again and again and i posted it on other social media.

to me this was a clear incident of touhy intentionally ripping off bonnars helmet, you can clearly see his hand reach under bonnars helmet and rip it off. am i biased because im from waterford? no. am i interested because im from waterford? yes.

firstly let me say i do not believe the GAA realise the consequences of their actions by banning players for this particular offence - yes of course a ban should be in place if there is a dangerous breach of safety. but compare tadgh and adrians incidents...

tadgh - no clear footage of it, harry keohoe highlighted it to the linesman who in turn highlighted it to the ref and straight red card. i disagree with dan shanahan when hes praising harry keohoe for attending CCC hearings to speak up for tadgh. id have praised harry keohoe if he hadnt acted the way he did when the incident happened resulting in the red card being issued. eitherway harry, tadgh and all "the experts" now say it looked like it wasnt deliberate and tadgh was trying to get away from harry...eitherway tadgh is still banned.

my own opinion yesterday was adrian was reaching back and purposely pulling off bonnars helmet but to prevent him from winning the ball back only. bonnar did a big song and dance about it and no action was taken. im told but not sure, same linesman who had tadgh sent off was linesman yesterday.

im not stirring the pot here. im not winding up my galway friends, ive always said if my own county didnt win an all ireland id love to see galway do it.......but, if we are meant to live in a society of fairness and equality,and play by "the rules", adrian must be banned for the organisation to be consistent. the GAA cannot not ban him given whats gone on this week with tadgh and will send out completely wrong message if it doesnt.

i appreciate how hard these boys have trained all year and sacrificed. and no im not saying to myself this will be great for waterford, i no full well we have a huge task to even get to september next sunday and thats all im concentrating on, id much rather beat cork and galway with their strongest teams playing, you aim to beat the best dont you?....eitherway i think the GAA, when the championship is over, review this rule and include another subsection regarding common sense.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 10:17:38    2030110

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How can someone intentionally rip off a helmet during frantic play when they are looking in the opposite direction and haven't a clue who or what is behind them. It was ridiculous by the Sunday game to even highlight it.

890202 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 11:27:30    2030139

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Replying To 890202:  "How can someone intentionally rip off a helmet during frantic play when they are looking in the opposite direction and haven't a clue who or what is behind them. It was ridiculous by the Sunday game to even highlight it."
Agree. I think there is enough evidence that there was no intent. How many of us have tried to parry a man behind off us and not really known what the story was? If he had even looked around you could say there was intent.

Pinkie (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 11:50:43    2030156

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do ye personally think he will be banned?

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 11:54:20    2030159

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Replying To 890202:  "How can someone intentionally rip off a helmet during frantic play when they are looking in the opposite direction and haven't a clue who or what is behind them. It was ridiculous by the Sunday game to even highlight it."
have you actually seen the clip? bonnar initially blocked him down which made tuohy run back for the deflected ball. he knew well bonnar was on top of him

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 11:57:17    2030164

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Nothing to see hear,move on

Tipptipp (Tipperary) - 07/08/2017 12:31:16    2030183

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Replying To Tipptipp:  "Nothing to see hear,move on"
Fair dues Tipptipp. No whingeing, no crying from your lads. They played like true Champs yesterday and went down like men

Maroonatic (Galway) - 07/08/2017 12:43:49    2030188

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "do ye personally think he will be banned?"
What isnhappeis happening Tadhg de Burca is wrong. It should not be happening. It's a pity RTE did not have a camera in that side of the field. Despite what is happening Tadhg de Burca Adrian Tuohy should be left alone. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Greengrass (Louth) - 07/08/2017 13:17:07    2030204

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The rule is a joke. I think the only reason The Sunday Game highlighted it was because they received messages from Waterford fans about it. So the Sunday Game doesn't know what to show.

The night of the De Burca one, Tyrell and O'Grady threw De Burca under the bus. Tyrell came out last night saying there was nothing in Tuohy's one. If he thought that about Tuohy, how could he be so sure about De Burca? I think pundits like him with big egos are dangerous. Just because he has 9 all-Ireland medals doesn't mean he is a good pundit.

Our old friend Keenan was the linesman again yesterday.

So one of the reasons why nothing came of this was because Bonnar didn't go moaning to Keenan like Kehoe did.

The De Burca red and suspension is a farce but Tuohy shouldn't be punished too because of it.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 07/08/2017 13:47:59    2030221

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The DeBurca one if different. He was looking at Kehoe, put his hand up and obviously pulled Kehoes face guard and it was seen by the linesman and judged to have been deliberate. Perhaps it was provoked by Kehoe blocking his run but provocation is irrelevant really

890202 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 13:52:24    2030223

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "The rule is a joke. I think the only reason The Sunday Game highlighted it was because they received messages from Waterford fans about it. So the Sunday Game doesn't know what to show.

The night of the De Burca one, Tyrell and O'Grady threw De Burca under the bus. Tyrell came out last night saying there was nothing in Tuohy's one. If he thought that about Tuohy, how could he be so sure about De Burca? I think pundits like him with big egos are dangerous. Just because he has 9 all-Ireland medals doesn't mean he is a good pundit.

Our old friend Keenan was the linesman again yesterday.

So one of the reasons why nothing came of this was because Bonnar didn't go moaning to Keenan like Kehoe did.

The De Burca red and suspension is a farce but Tuohy shouldn't be punished too because of it."
good synopsis as usual. i think adrian will get banned though, rightly or wrongly.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 13:53:49    2030224

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and can we not take the linesmans word for what he saw?if it happened in a club match we would.the cameras cant cover every part of the pitch.and the rule of the law is being applied.
case over.

perfect10 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 13:55:32    2030226

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Replying To perfect10:  "and can we not take the linesmans word for what he saw?if it happened in a club match we would.the cameras cant cover every part of the pitch.and the rule of the law is being applied.
case over."
well in that case the rule of the law will be applied for touhy wont it!!!

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 14:02:24    2030229

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Killarney how is the rule a joke?
To deliberately interfere with an opponents helmet is a red card offence and rightly so. Its dangerous. Obviously it can happen by accident during the rough and tumble of hectic play, helmets can get caught up in jerseys, other helmets, arms, legs etc but when someone deliberately grabs the faceguard of another they have full control over that players head and can cause serious injury

890202 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 14:13:24    2030230

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Replying To 890202:  "Killarney how is the rule a joke?
To deliberately interfere with an opponents helmet is a red card offence and rightly so. Its dangerous. Obviously it can happen by accident during the rough and tumble of hectic play, helmets can get caught up in jerseys, other helmets, arms, legs etc but when someone deliberately grabs the faceguard of another they have full control over that players head and can cause serious injury"
all the pundits saying touhys far worse than de burca. fact.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 14:25:51    2030239

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "all the pundits saying touhys far worse than de burca. fact."
Ridiculous statement. Name one pundit who said that

890202 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 14:58:28    2030272

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "all the pundits saying touhys far worse than de burca. fact."
All the Waterford/Cork pundits I presume. None of the SG lads last night were baying for blood.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - 07/08/2017 15:06:11    2030279

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "All the Waterford/Cork pundits I presume. None of the SG lads last night were baying for blood."
what is good for the goose is good for the gander!!!! cant let touhy away with this just because hes training hard bless him. automatic ban has to be given down, its not rocket science

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 15:10:14    2030285

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Replying To 890202:  "Ridiculous statement. Name one pundit who said that"
bored of replying to you. are we a bit bitter we sent super davy and company packing? ill enjoy hearing the outcome during the week. ban for consistency! doesnt deserve to play.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 07/08/2017 15:13:29    2030286

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I presume this thread is just a wind up at this stage

890202 (Wexford) - 07/08/2017 15:14:39    2030288

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