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I think this is wishful thinking on your part. It may hace escaped your attention but stalwarts like Bastick, Brogan, Kev Mc, McCarthy are having their positions seamlessly filled by young fellas like Fenton, Lowndes, Small, Costello, O'Callaghan. Their pace is electric. This Dublin team is as fresh as ever and now with some legends ready to blend in from the bench. I would say that this panel has never been stronger or had a better blend of youth and experience.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4698 - 09/08/2017 17:55:16 2031717 Link 1 |
Agreed.Dublin seemed to be running out of steam last year.In particular,Mayo had a great chance to beat them in the drawn All-Ireland Final.Jim Gavin saw that and he has freshened things up this year.Only 8 of the players who started the drawn All-Ireland Final last year for Dublin started for them in this year's Leinster Final against Kildare.If Dublin lose this year, it won't be because the players are too old or aren't fresh enough.And Gavin has introduced new players seamlessly.He can become one of the all time great gaa Managers.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2141 - 09/08/2017 18:10:08 2031722 Link 1 |
I find it hard to believe we haven't played in the championship since 2011, in the noughties Tyrone gave us a couple of thumpings with the odd close game, and then we gave you to convincing beatings in '10 and '11. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8571 - 09/08/2017 22:21:00 2031784 Link 1 |
That was the league. Dublin took it easy in the league this year compared to other years. Dublin have beaten everybody of note over the last few years Tyrone have beaten nobody of note.Beating Donegal doesn't really count as they are miles behind where they used to be. Based on your reactions to my post you seem to think the idea of Dublin being a step ahead of Tyrone is absurd when it clearly isn't and Tyrone have yet to prove they are at Dubins level, until they do I have Dublin a bit ahead of them. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 09/08/2017 23:05:52 2031797 Link 3 |
It'd be nice for all ye Tyrone lads to give up the anti Ulster blarney, and get over it. But as long as Ulster men keep saying we all hate ye then there's a certain degree of prophetic fallacy to it. Nobody would be up for Dublin except for all this ulsterness- and of course Cavan which happens to be in Ulster. jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 10/08/2017 00:58:52 2031822 Link 0 |
My reaction is based on your very simplistic reading of this game. Tyrone have played no one yet - well neither have Dubs so both haven't been tested. Dubs are going for X number of All irelands in 5 years so they have beaten lots of great teams - that's history the older boys are getting older but more significantly they have blooded a lot of new young players as have Tyrone in fact I would suggest this is the best Tyrone squad since the noughties. Dubs didn't take league seriously - neither did Tyrone. Both teams are very similar - strong defences with awesome counter attacks. Very strong fit atheletes who can play ball. Strong benches on both sides and both with tactically astute managers. I have already stated on another post I think Dubs just might nick this one but it's no formality at all and wouldn't be one bit surprised if Tyrone win this and neither should anyone be surprised!
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2017 09:36:13 2031846 Link 0 |
This will be a dour match yet exciting if Tyrone can stay with dublin down the stretch. Tyrone will need goals for sure if they are to win. If they fall 4 or 5 behind then dublin will win no problem. If they can get a foothold then they have every chance. Tyrone by 2. carantryla2012 (Galway) - Posts: 61 - 10/08/2017 09:51:02 2031856 Link 1 |
If Dublin can start well which Tyrone will do there best for that not to happen and to drag Dublin down to there level but if we start well we will win because northern teams only have 1 brand of football and this Tyrone team haven't the forwards to go on the attack for large part's. If they do beat us on I'd like to see them win the final mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 10/08/2017 13:49:19 2031980 Link 0 |
Ulster/Northern teams have 1 brand of football - in my opinion Dubs and Tyrone have a very similar brand of football - what makes their styles so different and why would you say that Tyrone have a similar style to a Antrim, Cavan, Fermanagh, Derry etc etc. The fact you say red hands will drag Dublin down to their level suggests that Dubs are on a very different level - interesting comment but I would suggest many of your fellow suppprters wouldn't be as arrogant!
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2017 14:30:54 2031998 Link 0 |
Ulster/Northern teams have 1 brand of football - in my opinion Dubs and Tyrone have a very similar brand of football - what makes their styles so different and why would you say that Tyrone have a similar style to a Antrim, Cavan, Fermanagh, Derry etc etc. The fact you say red hands will drag Dublin down to their level suggests that Dubs are on a very different level - interesting comment but I would suggest many of your fellow suppprters wouldn't be as arrogant!
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2017 14:36:33 2032002 Link 0 |
I think it is reasonable to consider that Dublin have a more tried and tested squad than Tyrone. Fair enough the dubs have introduced some new players, however twelve of their starting q/f team have all played in and won all Ireland finals, while I may be corrected but I believe that only two of the Tyrone starting 15 i.e the Cavanaghs have played on All Ireland Sunday. Similarly nearly all of the Dublin subs used have all-Ireland final experience with I think only Justin Mc Mahon on the bench for tyrone, dates back to 2008. This doesn't mean Dublin will win but certainly have an edge in experience of the big day.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 661 - 10/08/2017 14:46:28 2032004 Link 0 |
League form totally irrelevant. If both teams play up to their potential, and of the ref doesn't throw it for Dublin ( a big assumption given the perennial HQ desire to see a Dublin-Kerry final), then Dublin should win by 4 or 5 points. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 10/08/2017 15:29:46 2032019 Link 0 |
I really cant understand the reasoning behind thinking this will be a dour game and somehow Tyrone will want to bring Dublin down to some super defensive level that Tyrone play at. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 10/08/2017 15:44:30 2032025 Link 2 |
there was about the same amount of AI final experience amongst the Tyrone ranks in 2003 when they blitzed a Kerry side packed with AI final caps. Its hardly a conclusive stat. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 10/08/2017 16:10:56 2032039 Link 0 |
Tyrone and Dublin are completely different, Tyrone play defensive counter attacking football while Dublin play to suit the opposition and can easily go man for man where Tyrone only play defensive and will nearly always concede the kick out, I'd most definitely say Dublin are at a different level to anything in ulster at the moment and that's not arrogance it's just how it is now.
mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 10/08/2017 16:38:35 2032048 Link 1 |
David Coldrick refereeing this game is not good news to you Tyrone fans or am I wrong? IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2017 16:52:49 2032055 Link 0 |
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=274222 What do you think now REDHANDDEFENDER ???? Redhandsam (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 10/08/2017 17:00:56 2032061 Link 0 |
Agree all they had was a bunch of young guys who had won All Ireland medals at underage same as current crop.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2017 17:06:27 2032065 Link 0 |
Great news for the Dubs, a neighbour refereeing the game......I wonder who Croke Park want in the Final. Sure the Final will be a sell out anyway? HawkEyed (Donegal) - Posts: 61 - 10/08/2017 17:07:51 2032066 Link 1 |
I see David Goldrick is down to be the referee for this one. I imagine there are a lot of referees delighted they didn't get that phone call. Best of luck to him, judging by some of the comments on here he will be needing a lot of it. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/08/2017 17:16:44 2032074 Link 0 |