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Doping - 6 Like(s)
Nothing to see here, these lads are amateurs, it was unintentional, ban had been served, no drugs in the gaa, move on.......... What a load of b%ll%ck!

In February this case was pending according to the anti doping agency yet by today it is finalised and the ban has been served!! Yet the Anti doping agency has not yet delivered the written judgement........... Something smells and if the player is as innocent as everyone says all this secrecy etc does him no favours.
Mayonman , 28/05/2017 at 18:13


RTE pundits - 5 Like(s)
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/40079442

Just compare this insightful, measured and articulate analysis on BBC compared to the drivel we have to listen to on RTE.

When are we going to get rid of Spillane and O'Rourke?
Wally , 28/05/2017 at 17:36


Doping - 5 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Oh yeah sure their all on something down here. Its DEFINITELY nothing as simple as something from an inhaler or anything.

How many All-Ireland's do you want the GAA to take off us for this outrage?

I mean I wouldn't expect anyone to wait until Sport Ireland have released their written statement or anything.

Considering Sport Ireland have already clearly stated the incident was unintentional you'd think the focus would be more on why this suddenly comes to light a year later and what this says about the GAA and its dopping policies - the lack of transparency, the secrecy etc etc.

But no, some of ye lads go on ahead and fling a bit of mud at a young amateur athlete and try and tarnish his reputation."
First things first, this is the second Kerry player to fail a drugs test, not fiction or anything like that, it is a FACT.

Secondly, I find my it interesting that it is the second Kerry player to fail a drugs test and that is my OPINION. When O'Mahoney failed, I thought yeah, probably something harmless but for it to happen a second time is careless. As the saying goes "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me".

Something needs to be done address this, Kerry, like everyone other team, has a big backroom team of doctors, nutritionists, physios, masseuses, performance consultants, manager, selectors, counsellors, weather consultants, psychics etc.. Surely between the lot of them one of them would be able to advise the players on what is a banned substance and what isn't. The players are big boys too and should take responsibility for what they are taking.

Next thing ye will be saying that eating food is more dangerous before driving a car than consuming alcohol, oh wait ye already said that. I don't maybe ye are all on drugs in the South West. It would explain an awful lot anyway.
Killarney.87 , 28/05/2017 at 19:14


Doping - 4 Like(s)
That is Kerry player number two to fail a drugs test, interesting....
Killarney.87 , 28/05/2017 at 16:07


Doping - 4 Like(s)
You know whats funny - when I saw a few of the people posting their opinions I laughed as I was able to remember the stance they took on a few controversial and high profile cases over the last few seasons which didn't involve their own County. In fact, I went a looking to make sure I remembered right and the hypocrisy is astounding from some. One minute they are happy to hound the amateur sportsman and for trial by media but in other cases it is just an innocent mistake and how dare anyone castigate them or tarnish their reputations. But carry on as you are - tis only an observation.
Offside_Rule , 29/05/2017 at 09:52


Doping - 4 Like(s)
anything that might allow players to train harder and recover quicker is unfair to other players and teams
valley84 , 28/05/2017 at 18:34


Doping - 4 Like(s)
If a lad did something unintentionally and served his ban, whose benefit is it for it to be made public. Unlike other sports, these lads have to hold down a job as well, no need to tarnish the lads name
as_ky (Kerry) - Posts:460 - 28/05/2017 16:10:28
To warn other athletes to be careful of what you put into your body. yes these players are amatuer and have to hold down a job outside the sport but thats irrelvant. If they get a ban for taking substances in sport they can still earn if a pro athlete does they may not be able to or at least certainly not easily

I am totally against this charade "Oh what a clean sport we are now can we have the grants please!". These are amateuers they do not play for money, it was unintentional. The only financial gain is to the Sports doping authorities and their labs. Explain to me the advantage if any to be gained here? If the authorities were concerned about player welfare rather than the image of the sport I would at least try and support this rubbish. A mandatory ban of four years is outragous and the procedures so inflexible so secret it is medieval and archaic. Basically it is a disgrace to deprive people of natural justice, in effect a player has to prove his innocence. World wide doping has been shown to be corrupt, flawed, lack of transparency. The only reason the GAA signed up to this was for sporting grants and her we see an innocent person been punished an amateuer.
arock (Dublin) - Posts:3302 - 28/05/2017 16:18:39
This is so naive. What advantages do you think are to be taken
A 4 year ban if proven illegal, enhancing substances have been taken is not at all outrageous and the procedures around bans etc are not inflexible and certainly not secret or medevill. Nobody is deprived of natural justice so lay off the histironics.
That a player is amatuer doesnt mean drug testing shouldnt be taking place.
ormondbannerman , 28/05/2017 at 19:42


Doping - 4 Like(s)

Replying To as_ky:  "A non story. Ban has been served, accepted it was unintentional."
How is it a non-story? It's very rare that there's a failed drugs test in the gaa. So this was always going to be a story. It's wrong though that it has taken a year to come out. It's only come out now they are free to play again. Very worrying that there seems to be little transparency, even on the part of the authorities. It makes you wonder how many other failed drugs test we are not hearing about.
HurlingSnob , 28/05/2017 at 13:11


RTE and BBC showing the same game - 3 Like(s)
I wish no channel had of shown it, dire!!
sean og , 28/05/2017 at 14:55


A plea to Parnell Park - 3 Like(s)
I never said he was Making anything up what I said was I go there and play there throughout the whole year and I have never encountered anything like that.
so I'm asking what they said was the reason when he mailed.
he's making a meal out of things like a function being on in craobh clubhouse and doesn't want that to be allowed this year haha that's silly now.
Also about shop running out of water all you have to do is being your own before you go like
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12032 - 28/05/2017 12:21:40
Well just because you go there and regularly doesnt mean terrible service doesnt occur.
He isnt making a meal out of things. A ground shouldnt be running a function on days of games when it completely affects services to the paying attendees of a game. It would be like Croke Park running a large conference in the corporate levels of the stadium on the same day as a game.
And a shop at a ground shouldnt be running out of grounds like this especially temporary little shops. They should have enough stock to cope with demand. Very poor management and thinking if they cant.
ormondbannerman , 28/05/2017 at 16:05


Doping - 3 Like(s)
My stance hasn't changed one iota since this subject first raised his head , regards the secrecy absolutely correct as long as due process has been followed, we are not as some seem to think ENTITLED to know everything from the start a lot of drug issues become soap operas like Sharapova most recently , these guys have jobs and college careers innuendo could be very harming for them , I believed that then and I believe it now , as it was a kerry player the smugness in some of the posts stink which is sad.
If someone is cheating they need to dealt with , if lads are doing things to there bodies they also need to be educated, there is also a duty of care if lads start to bulk up our game is physical enough as it is.
Damothedub , 29/05/2017 at 10:56


RTE pundits - 3 Like(s)
Yes I watched the Derry v Tyrone match on the BBc. They are knowledgable about the players and the game and analyse the game. Yes thet had a discussion about the state of the game but it is an adult discussion not the drivel that passes for analysis on RTE. Last week I went out of the room at half-time as I couldn't bear to watch or listen to Brolly.
s goldrick , 28/05/2017 at 17:53


RTE pundits - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Wally:  "http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/40079442

Just compare this insightful, measured and articulate analysis on BBC compared to the drivel we have to listen to on RTE.

When are we going to get rid of Spillane and O'Rourke?"
Spillane doesn't think about what he's gonna say! Spent 2 minutes ranting about how Tyrone only had 1 forward score from play in the first half then a few minutes later said that Derry sitting so deep just invited the Tyrone backs and midfield up the field to kick handy scores.

The 2 lads fire out meaningless and irrelevant stats rather than actually analysing the game in front if them and using the stats to support a well structured analysis.

Spillane lambasted Tyrones team selection of Donnelly and cavanagh in the full forward line then said Tyrone would win because Mickey Harte knew what he was doing. Which is it Pat?
cavanman47 , 28/05/2017 at 17:58


RTE and BBC showing the same game - 3 Like(s)
So it'd be grand if the game wasn't also on BBC?
But it wouldn't have been shown on BBC if it wasn't broadcast on RTE. Somehow RTE did something wrong by broadcasting a GAA match?
GreenandRed , 28/05/2017 at 18:01


RTE pundits - 3 Like(s)

Replying To bloodyban:  "And in all fairness Joe Brolly needs to go too. The guy is always looking for a bare even when there is none. His accent gets thicker every year.."
At least he has a sense of humour unlike Statler and Waldorf.
GreenandRed , 28/05/2017 at 18:04


Doping - 3 Like(s)

Replying To as_ky:  "If a lad did something unintentionally and served his ban, whose benefit is it for it to be made public. Unlike other sports, these lads have to hold down a job as well, no need to tarnish the lads name"
All our athletes, rowers, boxers etc are amateurs..........
Mayonman , 28/05/2017 at 18:15


Galway vs Dublin (Hurling) - 3 Like(s)
It was a bad beating but don't worry, all the money we get will ensure a hurling AI in the next 3 years!!
realdub , 28/05/2017 at 20:19


Doping - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Jackeen:  "In fairness I posted this before it became public knowledge who it was. I wonder what substance it was and why it took a year to surface."
That's the big issue here why the secrecy? Why did it take over a year for this to come out?
jacktheDub , 28/05/2017 at 13:14


Doping - 3 Like(s)

Replying To jacktheDub:  "That's the big issue here why the secrecy? Why did it take over a year for this to come out?"
Yeah, there is something very odd going on here, how did he receive and serve a suspension without it becoming public knowledge? Did sport Ireland issue the ban? How was the suspension so short? (tested after last years league final, then process the sample, notify player and GAA, hearings etc.) and back for a few league games this year?
How long was the ban? When was he notified about it and when was the Kerry Co. Board notified about it.. What was the substance?
He can count himself lucky he's with Kerry, something stinks...
cuttothebone , 28/05/2017 at 13:58


Galway vs Offaly (Hurling) - 2 Like(s)

Replying To oakleafersir:  "Galway had a great win today. No disrespect to Offaly but I expect Galway to demolish them in a few weeks. Galway 12+"
I can only assume your full time job is starting threads, or that you are on commission for doing so.

We'll start talking about the Offaly game when we start to become interested in it -- which will be in about 2 weeks time.
PoolSturgeon , 28/05/2017 at 23:57