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Would a relegation/promotion playoff against the second last team in the division versus the second top team in the next division down be a better option than what exists currently? Only the top team would go up and bottom team go down automatically. Opinions? (Obviously this would suit my own county's position at present but it's not why I'm posting). Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 14:58:25 1972797 Link 0 |
The 2nd bottom team has had 7 chances to pick up points, why do they deserve yet another one?
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 29/03/2017 15:52:45 1972818 Link 1 |
Let me guess - if Cavan win on Sunday they would avoid relegation in your scenario? Without even looking at the table, I am confident this is true!! Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 29/03/2017 16:12:32 1972832 Link 0 |
It would be nice if we had a league. Playoffs just kill the whole concept of one. They also eat into the fixture list that the GAA are looking to condense. No better starting point than scrapping the whole playoff idea. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 29/03/2017 17:06:07 1972853 Link 1 |
And we wouldn't have got promoted last year without beating Cork. So what's your point?
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 17:11:13 1972856 Link 0 |
The playoff would replace the current league final which sometimes can be cagey enough affairs with teams not showing "their full hand" for Championship. With promotion at stake all that goes out the window and there are no extra games to the current schedule.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 17:14:52 1972860 Link 0 |
Second top has 7 chances to gain top spot. The penalty for not doing this is another game to secure promotion. Same argument.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 17:18:17 1972862 Link 0 |
Now that's a leap , take a maths equation apply it to two different scenarios and declare they are the same when in fact they are not. Poor play and performance shouldn't be rewarded, its amazing so many on here go on about the advantages top teams have and here we have an idea to bail them out again should they come unstuck. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 29/03/2017 17:51:35 1972869 Link 1 |
all that really does is make your actual league games less important because you can get a bail out in the playoffs. I think the current structure is too long and chopping the playoffs and making it an authentic league competition would be a step in the right direction. We already have a playoff competition, its called the AI Championship, why do we need another?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 29/03/2017 17:52:40 1972870 Link 0 |
Football: legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 29/03/2017 18:00:53 1972874 Link 0 |
I think what it would mean though that the top teams would not try as hard if they knew that they would be safe even if they finished 2nd from bottom. they could put out all their big guns for the relegation playoff. To me a league is a league. leave it alone. The top team should be awarded the trophy . none of this "league final" nonsense. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 29/03/2017 18:13:48 1972879 Link 0 |
What maths equation are you talking about? It's the same point. Poor play and performance can still get you promoted- there are no absolutes. And in the last few years please point out where top teams would have been bailed out under that scenario. And I'm talking top teams.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 18:19:10 1972880 Link 0 |
There's not that much between yo-yo teams so a playoff against a lower division team is by no means a bail out. You could argue that league games are more important because you cannot afford a slow start if you want to move up divisions.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 18:23:18 1972883 Link 0 |
Good point on 3rd place, never thought of that. Could make it very interesting on last day of leagues and it definitely would mix it up well if the lower division has a strong year.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2017 18:27:58 1972886 Link 0 |
My point is we all come up with a suit ourselves scenario, when it is ourselves who are impacted or would benefit from such a change.
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 30/03/2017 10:07:43 1973032 Link 1 |
I think you need to read my post again , I said an idea to bail out , should they come unstuck , you answered in the past tense , when in fact I didn't say it HAD happened
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 30/03/2017 10:14:35 1973034 Link 0 |
Hard times says it all. How many chances do Cavan want or need
Muineachain76 (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 30/03/2017 10:49:58 1973049 Link 0 |