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Of course you are allowed to comment. This is an open forum. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you, Meath aside.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/02/2017 19:32:39 1961199 Link 1 |
He's from Meath!!
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 26/02/2017 19:36:43 1961201 Link 0 |
And I accept that 100%. Listen honestly I was delighted to see Donegal win the All Ireland and multiple Ulsters in the past few years so genuinely nothing against them or their fans. I just really do think they are better than what they play and it just makes for a very poor spectacle.
Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 26/02/2017 19:38:21 1961203 Link 0 |
I did'nt see the match. But conditions were difficult. Also strange to hear a Meath man having a go. When Meath are in division 1 and have won an All Ireland then I will listen. The GAA in Meath is fast becoming a "Joke". Remember the try, sorry goal that beat Louth a few years ago! And Meaths refusal to give a rematch also. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 26/02/2017 19:40:17 1961204 Link 0 |
Of course you are allowed to comment on anything you like, but you can be called out on things you say and how you angle them as much as I can be or anyone else. Meath in the 80s and 90s were physical but were full of great players like Ollie Murphy, Trevor Giles, Graham Geraghty to name but a few. We have excellent players who have brought so much to the game this past 4/5 years. Ryan McHugh scored a class goal today. Jason McGee is a kid and he scored 1-1 from midfield against the Dubs. Ciaran Thompson just gets better and he is a kid. Yet you just revert to the same old negative, lop-sided analysis we have listened to for ages now. The party line must be 'Dublin are great and Donegal the bad guys', sorry but that's bland and devoid of serious analysis. Imbalanced and unfair. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 26/02/2017 19:42:51 1961206 Link 1 |
Ive said it time and again on here and ill say it again. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 19:45:57 1961213 Link 3 |
How have all the other sides done V Dublin ? TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 26/02/2017 19:46:07 1961214 Link 1 |
Any kind of games this time of year other than on an all weather or Croke park is going to be difficult for the players. The shift put in and the overall effort is huge, these guys job is to work on match sharpness anyone who judges a game in Feb is going to come up with all the wrong conclusions. Now that doesn't mean it is watchable or is a spectacle it is not but it couldn't be at this time of year. Just wish GAA would lower prices accordingly with the inferior games on offer. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 26/02/2017 19:46:11 1961215 Link 0 |
Whatever about Dublin being understrength, we have lost 9 players from last year. Players of the calibre of McNeilis, Thompson, Toye, McLoone, N. Gallagher, McFadden and Eamon McGee. Players that are not easily replaced. Added to that we still have the likes of Kieran Gillespie, Paddy McBrearty, Martin McElhinney and Karl Lacey to come back in. What exactly did you expect from Donegal? Afraid to give it a go.. Come off it. We defended ferociously and were able to open up Dublin numerous times, dropping 3 or 4 short and kicking some poor wides in absolutely shocking conditions. I thought we did excellent with the team we now have at our disposal. We'd a whole host of under 21s playing including 19 year old Michael Carroll and an 18 year old midfielder Jason McGee who was outstanding today against the best pound for pound midfielder in the country in Brian Fenton. I'm proud of how these lads did and what a great experience it was for them today. HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 26/02/2017 19:49:06 1961219 Link 3 |
Just cause its not exactly free flowing sexy football doesn't make it a poor spectacle. I'm sick of this notion that football has to be played a certain way and that anybody who dares veer off course is inflicting stab wounds in the murder of gaelic football cause that is absolute total and utter balls. . I accept that people might want to see great football as a preference, I'm one of them, but to suggest that there is no skill involved or any entertainment involved in this is, in my view, simply untrue. Its fascinating and intriguing. If the lack of a spectacle is such a big deal then why are so many Donegal people willing to spend money watching it year on year. Ive been to loads of Donegal games as a neutral, and there are always huge crowds. If Donegal and Tyrone where playing in an ulster final this july, it'd sell out. People are not voting with their feet when it comes to the black death of gaelic football because its a myth, If anything the league crowds are increasing, and the reason why attendances are dwindling (in the championship) has nothing to do with the spectacle on show, rather the dire, huge difference of quality between the Dublins of this world and the Meaths of this world where the gap is widening. Competitive sport draws mega crowds and interest, turkey shoots don't. I was a nervous wreck in the last few minutes today, in a league game in February, There is every chance I wont feel nerves like that in the championship until august at the earliest.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 20:02:13 1961227 Link 5 |
Out of order. TripleH is well entitled to his opinion, Whether people agree or not. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 20:03:34 1961228 Link 0 |
That's a very silly statement that because the person is from a county that ain't in the top division there point don't matter. many intelligent and wise people who have brilliant reading of the games from all over the country it doesn't matter if there place of birth has been successful or not to be able to understand the game. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/02/2017 20:04:38 1961229 Link 0 |
Wayno hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/02/2017 20:18:16 1961236 Link 0 |
It's win at all costs nowadays, doesn't matter if you park the bus in front of your goals or get everybody black carded as long as you get the right result for your team, in conditions like today it was difficult to kick a point 30-35m out from goals never mind from the 45m line or midfield, you couldn't bounce the ball, the ball was sloppy, very easy to lose the ball in a tackle so every man behind the ball and hopefully break forward at speed was the best option, the old saying that wet weather or rain is a great leveller in a match is true, you play to your strengths riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 26/02/2017 20:18:27 1961237 Link 0 |
Great post wayno!!
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/02/2017 20:39:19 1961253 Link 0 |
Enjoyed both games on TG4, but really something will have to done to disincentive the defensive game. Endless passages today from all 4 teams passing the ball along the 45 metre line while the opposition sat and waited for them. Hard to know what rule changes would help though befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 26/02/2017 20:40:56 1961255 Link 1 |
Great result for Donegal today Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 26/02/2017 20:42:11 1961256 Link 0 |
Hill, its a team game. Not a game for individuals. All successful teams in every single sport play as a team no matter how good/skilful one individual is. My point is, I agree with you to a point, 1v1, forward v defender it takes a great defensive skill to come out of that 1v1 with possession. But doing what Donegal do, and lets not just say Donegal, because we absolutely 100% do it at times, and did so today, takes the whole team to perform it. Its really not as simple as just getting 14 lads behind the ball and filling space, There is more to it than that, If it was as simple as what you make it, Clare or Limerick could do it in a one off game against Kerry and make It as competitive and difficult to score as we found it today, And Donegal too. Offaly couldn't just wake up on a sunday morning of a game against the dubs in croker and say, right lads we will play everyone behind the ball and keep it close for 70 minutes or keep it competitive, get a draw or even beat us. It takes weeks, months, even years of practice to get it off too a T. Sport is about winning, Teams will enjoy what they do when they are winning. Its as simple as that. Fans are the same, If you said to a Meath man tomorrow, Or an Offaly, Clare, or Sligo fan if they would care if they play amore defensive plan if it meant winning a provincial crown and possibly competing against the top 4 or 5 teams in the country in croker, they would bite your arm off. And I guarantee you right now that their attendances at games would increase tenfold. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 20:47:14 1961259 Link 0 |
Watching on Tele I can see why it'd be cat to watch When you are there, or more so, when I'm there, I can see all the off the ball movement infront of the 45 and see how A) The team in possession gets over/under/through the blanket b) The team doing the defending stays in their defensive structure and maintains their discipline. Not beautiful to watch, but its bloody interesting, intriguing and enthralling at the same time. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/02/2017 20:54:21 1961269 Link 0 |
Honest question Hill. Would you really watch the Dubs winning by 23 points and it been over at half time or watch a good tight hard match that's close till the end? I know what match I would prefer.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 26/02/2017 21:12:16 1961286 Link 1 |